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For not reporting male colleague's inappropriate behaviour?

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Eli9 · 13/12/2025 10:59

My colleague has been behaving inappropriately for a long while. He comments on what I’m wearing every time he sees me, noticing tiny details, for example, he once said, “Your earrings are in the shape of a bow,” and another time asked if I’d dyed my hair because it looked lighter. He once said he remembers the first time he saw me; I was wearing such and such top.

He’s done things like walk me to the staff room and then tell another colleague, “I escorted X downstairs as if she doesn’t know the building.” I’ve also found him sitting alone in my classroom, even though he doesn’t teach there. He once stood outside my classroom watching me teach, then commented that my class was very engaged and suggested I should be appointed to teach a certain category of students to improve retention. Multiple times, he's said X and X colleague have said they love working with you.

He’s asked me out a few times. First for a drink, I said no. Months later he asked for coffee, I said no-I’m always busy. He offered to buy me coffee, I said no, I have my own hot drink.

On one occasion, he came to my staff room when I was feeling unwell and said, “You look fantastic for someone who’s sick.” The other day after buying what I needed in the cafeteria, I left without saying bye, went up the stairs and I noticed him looking for me, he even went down a flight of stairs and back up trying to find me.

He’s looked at my timetable and commented on my hours this term. He told me he’s single and has no children, even though I never asked. Yesterday in the staff room, I said I was looking forward to the winter break and having nothing to do. He replied, “I can’t imagine a single mother having nothing to do,” and immediately apologised. I’ve never told him I’m single, so it felt like he was trying to find out my relationship status. Later, he commented on how casually I was dressed and said, “I’ll let you go before I say something I shouldn’t.”

I haven’t reported him because I’m a contractor, so I don’t work every term and we aren't in the same team. I’ve been avoiding him as much as possible. I've ignored him multiple times. Looked at him with disgust and he still goes on. He’s been at the organisation for 12 years, is well-liked, and is doing funded research, so disciplinary action would have serious consequences for him. I don't want to be the person to ruin this for him as he's been working on this for 6 years. I’m also afraid of how other colleagues might see me, because I’m the youngest in the school. They might think I’ve brought this on myself and side with him. If that happened, I’d have to leave the workplace, but I can’t, as I need the experience to progress in my career.

He’s 15 years older than me, and although he hasn’t said this, I suspect he may be looking for a younger woman who could have children.

OP posts:
EBearhug · 13/12/2025 17:49

If the earrings comment had been the only comment, then yeah, fine, nothing to very concerned about - with everything else it's part of a pattern of behaviour.

(I am currently sulking that my colleagues appear not to be impressed by my range of Christmas earrings I have been wearing.)

Rosealea · 13/12/2025 17:55

I really don't think any of that is at all inappropriate. You've been suckered in by the folk that can't deal with men saying a word to anyone 🙄

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 13/12/2025 17:56

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 11:07

Why would he look at my ears? Surely you’d look at someone’s face, not examine their head, body, and what they’re wearing.

I've been with you up until here, but I'm intrigued as to why you wear earings at all, if you don't expect people to notice them? When I used to wear make-up, it was because it helped me feel more confident, and if I'm totally honest, I also hoped that it would make me look more attractive to maybe any potential future partner!

Surely we choose to wear certain earings as a (hopefully in my case, subtle) message to anyone who notices them, eg "I might not be very talkative, but I have a good sence of humour!"? I really don't think it is reasonable to oquestion why someone noticed what earings were being worn, even if they make a comment on them - as long as it isn't a rude comment of course.

I was once at our local hospital for an outpatient appointment - no idea what for now - and I remember the nurse's earings, as they looked exactly like she had one of my Zomorph tablets attached to each earlobe, I couldn't help but mention it to her, luckily she laughed, and agreed with me!

Rosealea · 13/12/2025 17:57

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 11:07

Why would he look at my ears? Surely you’d look at someone’s face, not examine their head, body, and what they’re wearing.

Oh for goodness sake 🙄😄😂😂😂😂

C8H10N4O2 · 13/12/2025 17:58

Hiptothisjive · 13/12/2025 15:54

Lacking in real world? Is this pot kettle black? How ‘dangerous’ are these comments in an academic setting? Seriously. You are catastrophising to make a point. Any HR manager would ask in the first question ‘did you tell him to stop’.

IME the first question HR would ask was the circumstances and how often followed by asking the creep why he thought it was appropriate to make a continuing series of personal comments about the OP’s appearance, including touching her clothes uninvited and persisting after she has rejected his advances three times. Especially where the creep was in a position of seniority meaning the victim doesn’t not always feel able to say “fuck off". They may also give helpful advice on managing future comments but that is separate.

One comment might be innocent, an ongoing series isn’t. However since the OP works in the school where “HR” is likely to be access to a centralised remote service rather than an onsite staffer available in person.

Its not catastrophising to point out that most violence against women starts as low grade harassment and controls. The most skilled predators are those who judge the harassment so that each incident in itself will likely be dismissed in exactly the way posters have dismissed them on this thread. The only missing comment so far is the inevitable “you should be flattered”.

Women should not have to put up with this shit in 2025 but so long as other women rush to protect predators as poor misunderstood loves and blame the women for having to consider their job security before making a complaint then nothing will change.

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 18:12

WHOOOOISTHIS · 13/12/2025 13:15

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

peak Mumsnet shithousery. Looking at ears even though the OP is wearing Christmas bow earrings, is forbidden. why do you wear earrings if you don't want people to look at them?

or do you wEaR tHeM fOr yOuRsElF

Please point me to the part where it says I wore ‘Christmas’ bow earrings. Yes, I wear them for myself. You sound like someone who dresses for validation from others. Jog on! Thanks.

OP posts:
Hankunamatata · 13/12/2025 18:18

Id be firm but polite.

If he comments on your appearance - 'when you comment on my appearance it makes me uncomfortable' then juts stand there and smile at him and dont say anything else.

KilkennyCats · 13/12/2025 18:23

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 18:12

Please point me to the part where it says I wore ‘Christmas’ bow earrings. Yes, I wear them for myself. You sound like someone who dresses for validation from others. Jog on! Thanks.

You’re missing the point, which is that there’s nothing inherently wrong with noticing someone else’s earrings.
They’re literally a decoration.

EBearhug · 13/12/2025 18:36

KilkennyCats · 13/12/2025 18:23

You’re missing the point, which is that there’s nothing inherently wrong with noticing someone else’s earrings.
They’re literally a decoration.

There is nothing wrong as a standalone incident - but it can still be a pattern of behaviour.

This often how people get away with things - any incident alone is nothing much, just clumsily phrased, I'm being over sensitive. But it's why keeping a log/diary of these things can be important, because together, they show a pattern of behaviour, constant pushing at boundaries and do on. It could also show, actually, no, I was just having a bad day, I did over react, but that's less likely to be the case, in my experience.

I do agree that it is normal to look at colleagues' faces when communicating with them, and while studies have shown we mostly look at a triangle of mouth and each eye, we do look at the whole face, too, which will include ears. And if you've got noticeable ears in some way, people are likely to look more. (Like with a nervous candidates twitching ears at an interview last week. I was definitely trying not to stare at them, but they were catching my intention, unintentionally.)

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 18:42

KilkennyCats · 13/12/2025 18:23

You’re missing the point, which is that there’s nothing inherently wrong with noticing someone else’s earrings.
They’re literally a decoration.

My point regarding the earrings comment, as several posters have focused on it, is that it shows a broader pattern of behaviour. He looks me up and down from head to toe, with his gaze visibly moving over my body, including his head moving downward as he looks at lower parts of my body, and then proceeds to make a comment. I make sure that our interactions are brief, but he manages to do this in the few minutes. It’s weird!

OP posts:
KilkennyCats · 13/12/2025 18:46

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 18:42

My point regarding the earrings comment, as several posters have focused on it, is that it shows a broader pattern of behaviour. He looks me up and down from head to toe, with his gaze visibly moving over my body, including his head moving downward as he looks at lower parts of my body, and then proceeds to make a comment. I make sure that our interactions are brief, but he manages to do this in the few minutes. It’s weird!

I wonder why you didn’t include all this embellishment in your original post.

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 18:49

KilkennyCats · 13/12/2025 18:46

I wonder why you didn’t include all this embellishment in your original post.

I thought I’d included enough insight into the matter to give readers an idea. Do you feel it’s not enough, in the sense that he would need to do more for you to see it as inappropriate?

OP posts:
chunkyBoo · 13/12/2025 19:05

I think you need to assert strong boundaries but be professional. Hi Bob thanks for the offer but I keep work and pleasure separate, and I’m also attached, so let’s keep it professional from now on please.
Bob, you’re being overly familiar and I’m not comfortable with this, please remain professional

DepRosLil · 13/12/2025 19:06

I have a colleague at work like this. Told him If he talks to me or comes near me again I’ll cut his jugular in half. He’s avoided me since August, it’s wonderful.

MadTurkey · 13/12/2025 19:12

It’s not a matter of waiting passively for him to do something ‘worse’. Anyone behaving like this around me would know immediately it was unwelcome because I would tell him.

And I don’t understand how, on the one hand he’s an important member of staff that the institution would side with if you complained because you’re only a contractor, but on the other hand, you don’t want to complain because you’re afraid of it being taken seriously and damaging his career…?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/12/2025 19:13

Honestly OP. Ignore the victim blamers picking over your every word. You clearly detailed a range of inappropriate behaviour from him and in the context of him ignoring your refusal for coffee / a date, he's in the wrong. Trust your instincts. This is a senior man in your workplace hitting on a younger women who has zero interest in him.

Hopefully there's enough good advice from women on here who understand what harassment and power play targeted at women in the workplace looks like.

It must feel lonely being unable to talk to anyone there about it but there's some useful advice about what you can do to ensure if and when you decide to complain, everything is documented.

EleanorReally · 13/12/2025 19:42

how do you conclude that he is looking for someone to have children with op?

silverwrath · 13/12/2025 20:04

Rosealea · 13/12/2025 17:55

I really don't think any of that is at all inappropriate. You've been suckered in by the folk that can't deal with men saying a word to anyone 🙄

Women, eh. So sensitive. Just because they're being continuously pestered by some creep at work. In 'ye golden days of yore' we'd have been flattered by the attention. Or not ... and just kneed him in the nuts.

It's 2025. We're supposed to have grown. You can't even acknowledge that this plank's behaviour is inappropriate. 🙄

Hiptothisjive · 13/12/2025 20:14

C8H10N4O2 · 13/12/2025 17:58

IME the first question HR would ask was the circumstances and how often followed by asking the creep why he thought it was appropriate to make a continuing series of personal comments about the OP’s appearance, including touching her clothes uninvited and persisting after she has rejected his advances three times. Especially where the creep was in a position of seniority meaning the victim doesn’t not always feel able to say “fuck off". They may also give helpful advice on managing future comments but that is separate.

One comment might be innocent, an ongoing series isn’t. However since the OP works in the school where “HR” is likely to be access to a centralised remote service rather than an onsite staffer available in person.

Its not catastrophising to point out that most violence against women starts as low grade harassment and controls. The most skilled predators are those who judge the harassment so that each incident in itself will likely be dismissed in exactly the way posters have dismissed them on this thread. The only missing comment so far is the inevitable “you should be flattered”.

Women should not have to put up with this shit in 2025 but so long as other women rush to protect predators as poor misunderstood loves and blame the women for having to consider their job security before making a complaint then nothing will change.

🤦‍♀️

Femalemachinest · 13/12/2025 21:02

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 18:42

My point regarding the earrings comment, as several posters have focused on it, is that it shows a broader pattern of behaviour. He looks me up and down from head to toe, with his gaze visibly moving over my body, including his head moving downward as he looks at lower parts of my body, and then proceeds to make a comment. I make sure that our interactions are brief, but he manages to do this in the few minutes. It’s weird!

I dont think people will understand if they havent been through it. I used to talk to the person that did it to me every day, and when I looked back there were things that clicked in my head after that made me feel weird even though at the time I didnt notice it. I get it, if he wasn't already making you feel uncomfortable the ear ring comment wouldnt have bothered you but because you do its just another thing to add to it.

Do you definitely not have anyone you can speak with at work? I told a select few and 2 of the other men (1 of whom had his work life made difficult by my harrasser) watched me like a hawk after that when ever he was around me and constantly checked on me.

NostalgiaWhore · 13/12/2025 21:10

thepariscrimefiles · 13/12/2025 12:24

You are the second poster coming up with the same 'don't go running to HR' bollocks. What do you think they are there for?

He obviously isn't just being friendly. OP has said in her original post that he's asked her out a few times. She has said no every time and yet he persists.

There is a power inbalance as he is older, more senior and a permanent member of staff.

No wonder OP is reluctant to report if her workplace is full of victim blaming dinoaurs like you.

HR are there to manage personnel issues not to substitute for employees missing backbones. Women are not fragile flowers, this is not the Victorian age, and you have the nerve to call ME a dinosaur!! It is about time people started standing up for themselves and not calling on Big Brother to watch over all of their interpersonal interactions.

Now, if after OP is clear - not only that she doesn't want to go out with him - but that his attention/company/friendliness is unwanted, and he still persists, then (if it were me) I would speak with co-workers to see if he is like that with others, and what they might advise. Strength is in numbers not in running to daddy HR.

Glitchymn1 · 13/12/2025 21:12

Just say I want to keep our interactions strictly professional. Please don’t comment on my appearance or personal life as it makes me uncomfortable.

IdaGlossop · 13/12/2025 21:14

DepRosLil · 13/12/2025 19:06

I have a colleague at work like this. Told him If he talks to me or comes near me again I’ll cut his jugular in half. He’s avoided me since August, it’s wonderful.

That's the way to deal with tossers 🥰

Femalemachinest · 13/12/2025 21:19

NostalgiaWhore · 13/12/2025 21:10

HR are there to manage personnel issues not to substitute for employees missing backbones. Women are not fragile flowers, this is not the Victorian age, and you have the nerve to call ME a dinosaur!! It is about time people started standing up for themselves and not calling on Big Brother to watch over all of their interpersonal interactions.

Now, if after OP is clear - not only that she doesn't want to go out with him - but that his attention/company/friendliness is unwanted, and he still persists, then (if it were me) I would speak with co-workers to see if he is like that with others, and what they might advise. Strength is in numbers not in running to daddy HR.

Sorry but this is from acas website
"It can still be against the law even if the person being harassed does not ask for it to stop."
If you are being harassed it is definitely a HR issue. Discrimination at work is a legal issue. If you decided to report or not is up to you. In fact the person being harassed doesnt have to report it someone else who witnessed it can.

Skippydoodle · 13/12/2025 21:20

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 11:07

Why would he look at my ears? Surely you’d look at someone’s face, not examine their head, body, and what they’re wearing.

I am presuming you got the ear rings because you thought them to be pretty, attractive, nice etc. maybe he thought the same. I can’t imagine taking offence on someone saying to me ‘nice shoes/pretty earrings/love the new hair do/ that top looks great on you’ if only!

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