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For not reporting male colleague's inappropriate behaviour?

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Eli9 · 13/12/2025 10:59

My colleague has been behaving inappropriately for a long while. He comments on what I’m wearing every time he sees me, noticing tiny details, for example, he once said, “Your earrings are in the shape of a bow,” and another time asked if I’d dyed my hair because it looked lighter. He once said he remembers the first time he saw me; I was wearing such and such top.

He’s done things like walk me to the staff room and then tell another colleague, “I escorted X downstairs as if she doesn’t know the building.” I’ve also found him sitting alone in my classroom, even though he doesn’t teach there. He once stood outside my classroom watching me teach, then commented that my class was very engaged and suggested I should be appointed to teach a certain category of students to improve retention. Multiple times, he's said X and X colleague have said they love working with you.

He’s asked me out a few times. First for a drink, I said no. Months later he asked for coffee, I said no-I’m always busy. He offered to buy me coffee, I said no, I have my own hot drink.

On one occasion, he came to my staff room when I was feeling unwell and said, “You look fantastic for someone who’s sick.” The other day after buying what I needed in the cafeteria, I left without saying bye, went up the stairs and I noticed him looking for me, he even went down a flight of stairs and back up trying to find me.

He’s looked at my timetable and commented on my hours this term. He told me he’s single and has no children, even though I never asked. Yesterday in the staff room, I said I was looking forward to the winter break and having nothing to do. He replied, “I can’t imagine a single mother having nothing to do,” and immediately apologised. I’ve never told him I’m single, so it felt like he was trying to find out my relationship status. Later, he commented on how casually I was dressed and said, “I’ll let you go before I say something I shouldn’t.”

I haven’t reported him because I’m a contractor, so I don’t work every term and we aren't in the same team. I’ve been avoiding him as much as possible. I've ignored him multiple times. Looked at him with disgust and he still goes on. He’s been at the organisation for 12 years, is well-liked, and is doing funded research, so disciplinary action would have serious consequences for him. I don't want to be the person to ruin this for him as he's been working on this for 6 years. I’m also afraid of how other colleagues might see me, because I’m the youngest in the school. They might think I’ve brought this on myself and side with him. If that happened, I’d have to leave the workplace, but I can’t, as I need the experience to progress in my career.

He’s 15 years older than me, and although he hasn’t said this, I suspect he may be looking for a younger woman who could have children.

OP posts:
Americano75 · 13/12/2025 11:58

Anyahyacinth · 13/12/2025 11:51

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq80w44jjxpo.amp

Teacher attacks another because he was obsessed with a female colleague...for all the posters saying....oh its nothing, put up with it 🙄🤦‍♀️

I'm genuinely shocked at some of the stuff I'm reading here. It's like being back in the dark ages.

EnjoythemoneyJane · 13/12/2025 11:58

You need to be calmly assertive in the moment. There are ways of expressing yourself in a neutral way that could not be misconstrued as ‘bullying’ or rudeness or you telling him off. Avoid places you know he’ll be, avoid being alone with him, decline all offers to escort you anywhere, be very clear you will never meet with him for any reason outside of work.

Also keep dated notes of things he does and says that make you uncomfortable, so if anything does escalate you have a comprehensive timeline of his harassment.

It’s really shitty that you should have to do any of this, or that you should feel under siege in your workplace, but the balance of power here is not in your favour - you’re not a permanent employee and his pestering is low level enough to have plausible deniability. Which is a tale as old as fucking time, unfortunately.

thepariscrimefiles · 13/12/2025 12:00

EleanorReally · 13/12/2025 11:03

what is there to report, i dont understand what is wrong with the earring comment
but i guess he makes you feel uncomfortable.

You've read the OP and you've managed to come up with this victim-blaming comment minimising and excusing what is quite clearly inappropriate behaviour from an older and more senior male member of staff towards his much younger female colleage?

There is a power inbalance here that he is exploiting shamelessly.

NostalgiaWhore · 13/12/2025 12:02

He sounds a bit sad and needy but perhaps he is just trying to be friendly. Its possible he has taken a fancy to you and is not picking up on negative signalling - you could try to be a bit more direct. "Can you just leave me alone, you are making me feel uncomfortable with all the attention you give me, especially your comments on my appearance" ?

For goodness sake, do we have to run to HR every time someone acts a little bit outside of the norm?

waterrat · 13/12/2025 12:02

No thr op does not 'have' to be assertive in the moment.

This man is creeping her out and her instinct is telling her that might make her less safe.

Op. Please go and report this as the harassment it is

Tbh id probably change jobs if it wasn't immediately dealt with

Friendlygingercat · 13/12/2025 12:05

When I managed a public library two of my young female reports complained that a reader was making them feel uncomfortable/ He had not said anything overtly sexual. However he often commented on their looks and things they were wearing. He also contrived to "encounter" them behind a bank of shelves, out of sight of the counter, when they were shelving books. I had a stern word with the young man and reminded him that it was a public library and not a lonely hearts bureau. I told him that he was making my staff feel uncomfortable and if I had any further complaints I would have to involve the police. Of course he tried to bluster that it was a misunderstanding. As soon as the police were mentioned he got the picture. I never saw him in my library again after that day.

In your circumstances I would reply in a terse and chilly tone that you find his behaviour unprofessional and inappropriate and tell him it must cease. This is not a request, it is an instruction. Otherwise you will have to consider taking the matter further.

KilkennyCats · 13/12/2025 12:06

waterrat · 13/12/2025 12:02

No thr op does not 'have' to be assertive in the moment.

This man is creeping her out and her instinct is telling her that might make her less safe.

Op. Please go and report this as the harassment it is

Tbh id probably change jobs if it wasn't immediately dealt with

Well, yes, if she wants to deal with it she does need to.
There’s no evidence at all that she’s “unsafe”.

thepariscrimefiles · 13/12/2025 12:06

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 11:30

Unfortunately not. The one colleague I consider a friend is great, but very gobby.

Are you in a union? If so, you should contact them for advice. If not, you could still seek advice and guidance from ACAS. As far as I am concerned, this is definitely sexual harassment and he doesnt seem to be able to take a hint or take no for an answer. You have declined his offer of a date yet he still persists.

Topjoe19 · 13/12/2025 12:07

Make a record of all incidents. Be upfront & tell him when he makes you uncomfortable. Talk about the wonderful man you have in your life (make it up).

Then if he doesn't stop report him. Have your evidence ready.

ACynicalDad · 13/12/2025 12:08

I would ask his line manger to have an informal word. That may be enough, he sounds socially awkward and may need someone to tell him what may come naturally to you and I.

Barney16 · 13/12/2025 12:09

I would keep a diary. I think the first few things you said are fairly harmless but certainly the rest of it is quite escalatory. As others have said I would tell him firmly that you find his behaviour inappropriate. Then the next time say as I said last week I find that question/comment inappropriate. I feel for you because there is a power imbalance and he is more powerful. If you are in a union speak to them.

Cardinalita90 · 13/12/2025 12:11

Are you in a union? If so speak to them first. But if not, it seems you have 4 options here:

  1. Tell him to back off in the moment. Have a diary to hand of unwanted comments so if he does make a complaint, you will be able to show during the investigation process that the allegation is unfounded.
  1. Report to a manager - informally or formally.
  1. Start being very overt about having a boyfriend even if you don't. Yes you shouldn't have to do this in an ideal world, but we're not in one so it might be worth a shot. If he compliments your earrings "thanks my boyfriend bought them for me" etc.
  1. Do nothing out of fear and the situation stays exactly the same. This will have a long term negative impact on your mind and health.

Good luck. (Edited as forgot an option!)

Tooobvious · 13/12/2025 12:12

I’m not at all sure he’s actually done anything wrong. He fancies you and flatters you but you don’t fancy him and want him to stop. Fine. Just tell him to stop.

"Fred, all the attention you give me makes me feel very uncomfortable. I don’t like it so please stop it and leave me alone." Make a note of your words and the date. After that, if he doesn’t stop, say "I’ve asked you to leave me alone" and make a show of taking out a notebook and writing something down every time. That should put the wind up him, but if it doesn’t you’ll have enough evidence after a while to make a complaint.

It's important that you tell him clearly you don’t like it and want him to stop, or he could just say he thought you liked the attention.

LiarAtAWitchTrial · 13/12/2025 12:13

I'm a teacher (not in the UK) and I was doing supply work last year and had to deal with much worse comments from older male staff in various schools. There is no HR department - just the principal of the school, and if I start complaining then I would be viewed as the problem. It would be much easier just to never call me back again than to deal with the problem with a permanent member of staff.

Luckily I'm working in a really lovely school this year where there is a respectful culture. I've got a contract for the whole year, but I'm still not permanent. If something were to happen, it would still be easier for the principal to just not renew my contract.

thepariscrimefiles · 13/12/2025 12:16

Chenecinquantecinq · 13/12/2025 11:36

You're massively over reacting. He sounds awkward and clearly likes you but doesn't know how to convey this properly or take a hint. Be direct (why do women struggle with this) tell him that he is a collegue and will never be anything else. Why an earth would you report him just tell him in plain English you aren't interested.

FFS OP is under reacting. Do you think he would behave this way to a female member of staff who is his superior? He thinks he is entitled to sexually harass a much younger and more junior member of staff.

He has asked OP out on a number of occasions and OP has declined. At what point do you think he should leave her alone? He knows that she isn't interested in having a relationship with him so why does he keep persisting?

Fucking hell, the victim blaming is off the charts. OP thinks that if she is more direct he will take offence and make up some complaint about her. He is senior and well respected and liked so his words will carry weight in a way that OP's won't.

user1492757084 · 13/12/2025 12:19

Most of those one off encounters seem fine. It is the continual inquiring into your situation that is now becoming inappropriate.
Do you think he has been given the task of making sure you are welcome and coping with the new job? Is it his role be friendly to you?

You have not spoken plainly enough about how you feel to his questions. That is on you.

Yes, record dates and things that have said and happened but, foremost, you should be politely adult and honest with how you respond.

No, thank you.

No, thank you, I'm not interested in a date.

No, thank you, please don't ask me out on a date again.
I like to maintain professional relationships with work mates. (Are you sure he wanted a date? It could be that he was merely asking you for a coffee - like any female workmate might do.)

Please cease talking about my ear rings; I feel uncomfortable knowing people can see them.

Some of your responses are overly sensitive.
Of course people can politely comment on anyone's ear rings. People can talk about what they see as long as they are not offensive.

EBearhug · 13/12/2025 12:19

Definitely keep track of things said/done with dates/times.

I think you should definitely tell him to stop commenting on your appearance and to stop asking you out. You should also tell him that if he continues, you will report him for harassment.

I would also talk to another colleague. It's possible this isn't a first occurrence.

We recently had a member of staff being talked to about their behaviour- it wasn't his first offence, but management cannot work on rumours - they need someone to put in a complaint to be able to act. In this case, the staff member understands that any other occurrences will result in a formal disciplinary, with a possible outcome of dismissal. But none of that would have happened without someone having the courage to say, "this is happening to me, from that person, and I am not happy because of it."

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 13/12/2025 12:21

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 11:28

Again, I feel that if I’m abrupt, he may go ahead and report it and turn the situation around. It would be my word against his, as I have no evidence of these occurrences other than what he’s said verbally.
My colleague has also said (not about my situation as I've not told anyone at work) that the organisation tends to side with the person who has made a complaint. His job is more important than mine, so they'll keep him and get rid of me.

Well if that's the case, then report it

Either you talk to him first, or if you feel that's not an option then report it.

babyproblems · 13/12/2025 12:21

I think a lot of what you’ve mentioned could be considered conversation between colleagues tbh. Not the comments about being single etc but I think that could reasonably come up. The fact it makes you uncomfortable is the issue - you should tell him so and if he continues you could escalate it but I can’t see it being sexual harassment for example to talk about your timetable or teaching.

Chenecinquantecinq · 13/12/2025 12:23

thepariscrimefiles · 13/12/2025 12:16

FFS OP is under reacting. Do you think he would behave this way to a female member of staff who is his superior? He thinks he is entitled to sexually harass a much younger and more junior member of staff.

He has asked OP out on a number of occasions and OP has declined. At what point do you think he should leave her alone? He knows that she isn't interested in having a relationship with him so why does he keep persisting?

Fucking hell, the victim blaming is off the charts. OP thinks that if she is more direct he will take offence and make up some complaint about her. He is senior and well respected and liked so his words will carry weight in a way that OP's won't.

He is not sexually harassing her. She has not made it clear she is not interested. Plain English would sort this out. Wow the opinions on this site are always amusing. She is not some teen girl but a grown woman, just tell him no in simple terms. Honestly unbelievable. Some women like to play the victim it seems and instead of handling situations as a mature adult they would rather report people!

thepariscrimefiles · 13/12/2025 12:24

NostalgiaWhore · 13/12/2025 12:02

He sounds a bit sad and needy but perhaps he is just trying to be friendly. Its possible he has taken a fancy to you and is not picking up on negative signalling - you could try to be a bit more direct. "Can you just leave me alone, you are making me feel uncomfortable with all the attention you give me, especially your comments on my appearance" ?

For goodness sake, do we have to run to HR every time someone acts a little bit outside of the norm?

You are the second poster coming up with the same 'don't go running to HR' bollocks. What do you think they are there for?

He obviously isn't just being friendly. OP has said in her original post that he's asked her out a few times. She has said no every time and yet he persists.

There is a power inbalance as he is older, more senior and a permanent member of staff.

No wonder OP is reluctant to report if her workplace is full of victim blaming dinoaurs like you.

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 12:26

Isittimeformynapyet · 13/12/2025 11:46

So what's the point in wearing or changing your earrings?

For me, because I like them? Not sure what you mean here…

OP posts:
thepariscrimefiles · 13/12/2025 12:28

Chenecinquantecinq · 13/12/2025 12:23

He is not sexually harassing her. She has not made it clear she is not interested. Plain English would sort this out. Wow the opinions on this site are always amusing. She is not some teen girl but a grown woman, just tell him no in simple terms. Honestly unbelievable. Some women like to play the victim it seems and instead of handling situations as a mature adult they would rather report people!

Doesn't OP saying no to his many requests for a date indicate that she isn't interested? Does she need to act it out with puppets?

Eli9 · 13/12/2025 12:29

Chenecinquantecinq · 13/12/2025 12:23

He is not sexually harassing her. She has not made it clear she is not interested. Plain English would sort this out. Wow the opinions on this site are always amusing. She is not some teen girl but a grown woman, just tell him no in simple terms. Honestly unbelievable. Some women like to play the victim it seems and instead of handling situations as a mature adult they would rather report people!

I felt like declining 3 dates would mean I’m not interested.

OP posts:
Muddlethroughmam · 13/12/2025 12:29

I honestly completely understand why you feel so uncomfortable as I would too, Is he maybe Autistic and not picking up on your social queues?
I would probably still report but I would be entirely direct with him and say, Your behavior and Comments and give examples are making me very uncomfortable and I find them inappropriate