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To wonder why the economy, and people are struggling financially when the government could just.. ‘print’ more money to plow into it.

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RisenWhine · 23/11/2025 09:06

I just find it absolutely bizarre that businesses, NHS, education, benefits, taxpayers struggle so hard when money is literally a man made concept that we print and just ‘decide’ how much to have? Just ‘print’ more, if we created money and let’s be honest it’s just numbers, numbers are infinite.. put more into the NHS.. put more into education..

There is absolutely no reason anyone should have to struggle with money at it just baffles me that the UK is the way that it is because of some shite we made up 🤣

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Jc2001 · 24/11/2025 11:33

Owly11 · 23/11/2025 09:08

I assume you are being sarcastic, but about what or who? Has someone suggested this? Or are you seriously this stupid?

Well, it's a technique the government uses under certain circumstances. It's called quantative easing and the previous government used it a fair bit. It's obviously not a great idea as it devalues the currency and lead to inflation.

SerendipityJane · 24/11/2025 11:49

Money is madey uppy.

That's it.

quantumbutterfly · 24/11/2025 12:04

SerendipityJane · 24/11/2025 11:49

Money is madey uppy.

That's it.

But lots of people believe in it. It may be the faith with most adherents worldwide.

SerendipityJane · 24/11/2025 12:07

quantumbutterfly · 24/11/2025 12:04

But lots of people believe in it. It may be the faith with most adherents worldwide.

Lots of people believe in lots of things that are made up. One one level money is no different.

When money was a proxy for gold, you could claim it had a foot in reality. But that hasn't been the case for a while now.

quantumbutterfly · 24/11/2025 12:12

SerendipityJane · 24/11/2025 12:07

Lots of people believe in lots of things that are made up. One one level money is no different.

When money was a proxy for gold, you could claim it had a foot in reality. But that hasn't been the case for a while now.

People do believe in many nebulous things, but loss of faith in money tends to cause problems.

HardToGet · 24/11/2025 14:36

FloodsAreComing · 24/11/2025 08:14

Why make a MN post. Why not Google? There's a nice YouTube video explaining it. You can also use chatgpt.

Because some people prefer ‘personal’ explanations. Or a discussion. People ask stuff here all the time. Why join the thread if you just wanted to sneer and patronise? Does it give you a little kick to put others down?

TorroFerney · 24/11/2025 18:11

FloodsAreComing · 23/11/2025 11:43

What do you mean by this?

Do you think that the leaders of the DPRK have the same lifestyle as those they rule?

TorroFerney · 24/11/2025 18:16

Swiftasthewind · 23/11/2025 21:43

OP ignore the people getting at you. You’re left wing, which as far as I’m concerned, makes you a good person 👍 don’t ever apologise for being your whole authentic self!

The people attacking you are probably having a hard time looking over their shoulder being citizens of a country that has a habit of people falling out of windows. They should concentrate on staying alive and not stirring up public disorder on Western social media sites or invading neighbouring countries for the sheer audacity of being better than them.

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All left wing people are automatically good? And everyone who has said what are you on about op is Russian?

Well you live and learn don't you.

I'm off to Google what defenestration is in Russian......

TheKeatingFive · 24/11/2025 18:17

The Weimar Republic wants its economists back

TempestTost · 24/11/2025 18:40

FloodsAreComing · 24/11/2025 08:14

Why make a MN post. Why not Google? There's a nice YouTube video explaining it. You can also use chatgpt.

ChatGPT?

Good Lord.

FloodsAreComing · 24/11/2025 20:02

TempestTost · 24/11/2025 18:40

ChatGPT?

Good Lord.

You can use it to explain concepts. I did it today to explain to me what modern monetary theory is

PencilsInSpace · 24/11/2025 21:08

TorroFerney · 24/11/2025 18:11

Do you think that the leaders of the DPRK have the same lifestyle as those they rule?

DPRK is not a commune Confused

FloodsAreComing · 25/11/2025 15:12

PencilsInSpace · 24/11/2025 21:08

DPRK is not a commune Confused

Where have we ever had a successful communist society in history where there were communes?

RainbowBagels · 25/11/2025 16:45

I think only really the Kibbutzim system in Israel and even then it only works because people volunteer to live there and then leave when they have done enough. There is also nothing stopping people selling their houses and buying a bit of farmland in remotest Wales or somewhere and living 'off grid'. They could grow and sell or barter produce or sell their labour (carpentry or farm work) to pay the council tax and they could do what they liked. Its not compulsory to buy things on Amazon. Why do you need the whole world to be communist? Just live on your own commune. Its almost as if they actually don't want to live like that- they just want to tell other people that they would love to live in a Communist society.

PencilsInSpace · 25/11/2025 16:58

FloodsAreComing · 25/11/2025 15:12

Where have we ever had a successful communist society in history where there were communes?

I don't understand your question. Communes and communist societies are two different things.

A commune is a small group of people who voluntarily live together (often also work together) and share their wealth. Generally they're organised as a housing co-op and a workers' co-op. They were a big thing in the 60s and 70s and some of them lasted several decades. There are probably a few still going today.

If your 'commune' has a leader with a gun and/or who takes all the best food then you're probably in a cult.

genesis92 · 25/11/2025 17:03

Jesus fucking Christ.

genesis92 · 25/11/2025 17:05

HardToGet · 24/11/2025 07:39

Some of the sneery comments here are so irritating. So what if somebody does not know much about a topic and has asked a question that surprises you at its basic level? Why not do as some have, just explain the concepts in simple terms? All this demeaning of the OP. Saying she’s stupid and uneducated, how can she vote etc, it is really nasty to read. Does this honestly make people feel better about themselves?

I am a hospital consultant of many years. I have a reasonable brain. But there are definitely aspects of financial language and concepts that I struggle with. I am good with numbers, but I do find some concepts difficult to understand, like aspects of my pension, the McLeod judgement etc. Talking to my doctor colleagues, I know I am not alone. Luckily, I have spoken to specialist accountants who have far more knowledge and expertise in this area and they have explained concepts to me without making me feel stupid. There is nothing wrong with ignorance in one area, it does not mean that you are unintelligent in every way.

If somebody has gaps in their knowledge and is asking questions, why not answer with some civility, instead of this patronising and supercilious attitude? The arrogance of some here is breathtaking.

Maybe cause lots of us are so sick of hearing on here how anyone right leaning lacks critical thinking skills.

The OP just completely and utterly disproves this point

PoppyRoseBucky · 25/11/2025 19:15

RisenWhine · 23/11/2025 09:16

Maybe socialism then. I just think everything should be equal. I don’t see why anyone should suffer over a man made concept. It can be changed.. someone just doesn’t want to?

Remember folks-the OP can vote.

PoppyRoseBucky · 25/11/2025 19:33

The redistribution of wealth is just redistribution of poverty and misery.

Communism/socialism doesn't work. It never has and it never will. Socialism is all well and good, until you run out of other people's money.

A lot of people who advocate for communism/marxism/socialism do so on the basis, "But it'll be different when we do it!"

But it won't. It comes in one recipe. There are no tweaks, no adjustments to the recipe and ingredients. So, it doesn't matter who is cooking it. It will fail on the fundamental basis that the recipe is rotten.

Now, people who are of the mindset that this is a wonderful system, can and do have the freedom to set up their own little commune and redistribute their own resources and wealth amongst each other. The willing participants. However, you don't get to decide that other people, unwilling in this venture, are forced to subsidise it for you.

Straightjacketsandroses · 25/11/2025 19:56

devildeepbluesea · 23/11/2025 09:13

Mate, I remember asking this question when I was about 8 years old.

I answered this question for my kids when they were this age. They got the full Weimar TED Talk 😂

Nanny0gg · 26/11/2025 12:53

Swiftasthewind · 23/11/2025 16:02

I am so looking forward to the next general election. After 18 years of far right rule, an Islamic-Socialist alliance will finally put this country and its people on the right track. No more catering to billionaires and corporations, the power will be in the hand of the everyday common folk, guided by an understanding and benevolent middle class, against the ultra wealthy neo-corporate class.

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Like it is in other Islamic countries?

Swiftasthewind · 26/11/2025 13:03

Nanny0gg · 26/11/2025 12:53

Like it is in other Islamic countries?

Have you been to any of the countries in the United Arab Emirates? They are some of the safest, modern and progressive countries in the world. They certainly put this dump to shame.

Nanny0gg · 26/11/2025 16:40

Swiftasthewind · 26/11/2025 13:03

Have you been to any of the countries in the United Arab Emirates? They are some of the safest, modern and progressive countries in the world. They certainly put this dump to shame.

Who do they 'employ' to build their new skyscrapers?

How much money do the rulers in the Emirates have?

How much money do the poorest in the Emirates have?

What are the salaries like for the 'help'?

SpoonBaloon · 26/11/2025 16:43

Are you a Labour MP?

FloodsAreComing · 26/11/2025 16:44

Swiftasthewind · 26/11/2025 13:03

Have you been to any of the countries in the United Arab Emirates? They are some of the safest, modern and progressive countries in the world. They certainly put this dump to shame.

You change your view everyday.

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