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And he showed up unannounced ... after I tried to help him.

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MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 18:42

This is the first thread I have created, so be gentle, ha.

Okay, I saw a post on Facebook from a neighbour I did not know at all, saying how lonely he was since the death of his wife six weeks ago. Lots of people were saying nice things but I know, having suffered many deaths, that what he probably needed was company and a mind diversion for a few hours.

I said he was welcome for a cuppa at mine, stressing it would be friends only, that I am not looking for a relationship at all (and I hoped that as he was only six weeks bereaved, finding someone else would not be on his mind).

He came over the next day, and spent a massive eight hours here, by which time I was way past my work start time but as I am self-employed and we were getting on great and with many interests in common, I didn't make an issue of it.

After he left, I very quickly received a message asking, 'Please please, can we do that again as soon as possible?' and by the next morning, a message saying, 'I am waiting like a kid at Christmas for your reply!'

He also told me he was going to be working next door to me on the Monday morning, obviously dropping this news into the chat so I could say, 'Why don't you pop in?' Of course, I did not say that or give any encouragement, from which he should have deduced I wasn't into the idea of meeting again so soon.

I also had the feeling he had somehow 'engineered' the work next door to me as he never mentioned that during the Saturday meet-up.

The first time I had seen him was on the Saturday, when he'd arrived at 1pm and left at half past nine in the evening. Bit long for a cup of tea!

I reponded to his messages without showing the same ardour (the ardent messaging was already giving me the heebie jeebies, giving vibes that he saw me as more than a friend) but I said we could meet up again when I was next free, but that he should be aware I worked a lot.

I stressed I'd let him know when I was off work, and that we could go out and do an activity. I again stressed 'It is nice to meet local friends.'

Incidentally, I really do work a lot, usually around 12-14 hours a day, each day, except Saturdays when normally, I go out with an archaeology group. After that, I always work through on the Saturday night/Sunday morn to catch up.

I also told him that I was about to work an all-nighter from Sunday eve to Monday morning, and that on Monday, I was going to be out on a job all night so needed to catch up on sleep between Sunday night and Monday daytime.

Anyway!

It came to half past nine this morning and there were a few knocks on the door. I had expected it to be a parcel delivery so I answered. AAAAGH! There he was, standing hopping foot to foot, waiting to be invited in!

I was bloody angry and said I had just worked nights and he'd woken me up, which was true, and I'd dragged myself from bed looking like Worzel Gummidge. I must have looked both horrific and horrified!

He was waving two coffees about, which he'd bought at a local garage. I don't even drink coffee and said so, then that I had to go as I needed sleep because I am tonight working all night on a difficult task just as I'd told him. And I closed the door on him.

I was both mortified and embarrassed that he'd put me in that position. What a $$$$ing idiot!

To top it off, I checked the members' names, and he has gone and joined the same club I am a member of, where we go out on Saturdays. So now, I have to expect him to show up there as well. He actually was a member of it two years ago before I joined, and he did not like it. The first thing he told me was how bad it was, trying to get me to opt out of it.

I am in two minds about whether I should message the organiser and ask them to boot him out as he only rejoined the minute after leaving here on the Saturday night!

That's the last time I feel sorry for a bereaved male neighbour which is a shame. I have several male friends who don't behave like this and have never shown up at the door. They wouldn't dream of it!

AIBU to have no tolerance for him showing up like that, and to not contact him again despite his messages still coming on Facebook?

I feel sad that he's lost his wife but it doesn't give him a ticket to stalkerish, creepy behaviour. It's even worse that we have a few good friends in common, and I wonder if he will try to blacken my name for not continuing with the contact.

Having seen how he tried to get me to opt out of the club I am a member of, I would not be surprised.

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MzHz · 17/11/2025 18:44

No good deed goes unpunished @MungoforPresident

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 17/11/2025 18:47

Oh dear. This is literally why I am an antisocial bitch until I get the measure of someone.

heartofsunshine · 17/11/2025 18:50

I am sorry OP, l was once kind to a man who's wife had died and literally the same thing happened. I am married and it took DH having a stern word to get rid of him and then he slagged me off for 'leading him on'!!!
He is a pest and you are right to be firm, what a shame.

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 18:51

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 17/11/2025 18:47

Oh dear. This is literally why I am an antisocial bitch until I get the measure of someone.

Edited

You're so right.

I am very anti-social usually, too! I like being alone and work alone. I recently joined the club I mentioned because I realised I was sitting on my ar*e all day, mostly working, and wanted to do something physical every week (but not the sort that he may have in mind, haha.)

I might go back to my natural hermit tendencies.

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101Alsatians · 17/11/2025 18:53

You let a stranger that you 'didn't know at all' into your house and for such a huge chunk of time?

You sound very kind but you've been a bit daft.

TappaMcFeety · 17/11/2025 18:54

Honestly, I wouldn’t have been offering him to come round for tea in the first place and I certainly wouldn’t have tolerated him staying for 8 hours! - I think maybe you need to look at your own boundaries here.

ShamrockShenanigans · 17/11/2025 18:55

I must admit I was pretty shocked that you'd say to a man who'd only lost his wife 6 weeks ago...

"I said he was welcome for a cuppa at mine, stressing it would be friends only, that I am not looking for a relationship at all (and I hoped that as he was only six weeks bereaved, finding someone else would not be on his mind)."

But it seems like you had some sort of gut instinct maybe?

UnhappyHobbit · 17/11/2025 18:57

Oh no, I was reading this gasping at the horror I would feel if I was you! Time to go silent.

It may be a boundary issue but I don’t know how you can evict someone out of your house without being rude. Especially if they don’t get the hints. He’s latching on to you and your life as a distraction and that’s no good at all.

Sorry OP, I hope you manage to shake him off

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 18:58

TappaMcFeety · 17/11/2025 18:54

Honestly, I wouldn’t have been offering him to come round for tea in the first place and I certainly wouldn’t have tolerated him staying for 8 hours! - I think maybe you need to look at your own boundaries here.

I don't know. In life in general, I find people a lot more wary than I am and at the grand age of 60, this is the first time anyone has behaved like him.

We are all neighbours too, on a small development where we all chat on WhatsApp daily about the development. So although I have not spoken 1-1 to him, I think asking a bereaved person in our small close over for a cuppa is just normal.

It's his behaviour that is very weird!

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FromageduJura · 17/11/2025 19:00

Ask him to desist. You tried. He overstepped. You need time. Don’t feel any guilt.

Minniliscious · 17/11/2025 19:01

This is also why I’m extremely antisocial! People can take the absolute piss. I don’t envy you OP but you’re doing the right thing by distancing yourself and not giving in.

Cherrysoup · 17/11/2025 19:01

I’ve had a series of friends like this, they latch on, massively overstay their welcome, then eventually, I get so pissed off I have to step right back. I can’t cope with such intense time for hours, quick cup of tea and I’m there, otherwise, hell no! He knew you were working through the night yet still knocked on the door? I hope you went proper nuts.

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 19:01

ShamrockShenanigans · 17/11/2025 18:55

I must admit I was pretty shocked that you'd say to a man who'd only lost his wife 6 weeks ago...

"I said he was welcome for a cuppa at mine, stressing it would be friends only, that I am not looking for a relationship at all (and I hoped that as he was only six weeks bereaved, finding someone else would not be on his mind)."

But it seems like you had some sort of gut instinct maybe?

I said this because in his message in the group chat, he was saying how much he missed cuddles and that he hoped to find a partner again, but not yet. Whenever I meet a man as a single friend, I habitually make clear that I am not searching for any more than friendship.

If he hadn't mentioned being open to a new partner, I would not have mentioned it to him either but I'd have been more cautious because I would not have given him a clear message. As it is, I don't think I could have been clearer as I dropped the F word (friend!) in at every opportunity!

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WiddlinDiddlin · 17/11/2025 19:03

I would speak to some of the people you mutually know, and say:

'I've ballsed up here, I was just trying to be kind and now he's like a fucking limpet - I don't want to upset him but I do only have the odd half an hour free each week for a brew... you know him, what would you say?'

That way you're getting in there first with that side of things.

If you bump into him at the club, treat him like everyone else and if he angles for an invite to yours after you can tell him, ideally in front of others, that you're very busy as you've used up all your spare time recently and need to get on.

I don't know why you didn't boot him out after an hour the first time, look at your watch 'gosh is that the time, I have an online meeting in 10 minutes... off you pop, take these biscuits I won't finish them' and shovel him out the door!

hoarahloux · 17/11/2025 19:03

You had a lovely 8 hours with him in your home where you were "getting on great". I can see how he might have taken that the wrong way.

Don't ghost him. Tell him that it's too much for you and that you meant an hour or so over coffee, or whatever.

InterestedDad37 · 17/11/2025 19:04

You were kind, he took it the wrong way. Get annoyed with him if necessary, and angry at him if need be. I've seen this in action from other divorced/bereaved men, who can't or won't simply look after themselves when life demands that they do so. It's all a bit pathetic imho. Give him short shift.

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 19:05

Cherrysoup · 17/11/2025 19:01

I’ve had a series of friends like this, they latch on, massively overstay their welcome, then eventually, I get so pissed off I have to step right back. I can’t cope with such intense time for hours, quick cup of tea and I’m there, otherwise, hell no! He knew you were working through the night yet still knocked on the door? I hope you went proper nuts.

You are spot on, @Cherrysoup and I did go proper nuts. I am surprised the rest of the neighbours didn't show up to see what I was shouting at. Or who I was shouting at!

I feel grateful to have met only the one like this. :) And I am glad that others have had the experience as well!

Yeah, eight hours was a bit much. I was only getting irked by it in the last hour because I don't wear a watch either, so thought it was about five!

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TomatoSandwiches · 17/11/2025 19:07

I'm sorry but this is a lot of men, I always tell well meaning women now that men do not need our help, they do not need help from women, if they need assistance then they can ask men or go to their GP, look up organisations for what they want/need.

The risk is just too great for women to take them on like this.

I hope your albatross gets the hint and pisses off.

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 19:08

WiddlinDiddlin · 17/11/2025 19:03

I would speak to some of the people you mutually know, and say:

'I've ballsed up here, I was just trying to be kind and now he's like a fucking limpet - I don't want to upset him but I do only have the odd half an hour free each week for a brew... you know him, what would you say?'

That way you're getting in there first with that side of things.

If you bump into him at the club, treat him like everyone else and if he angles for an invite to yours after you can tell him, ideally in front of others, that you're very busy as you've used up all your spare time recently and need to get on.

I don't know why you didn't boot him out after an hour the first time, look at your watch 'gosh is that the time, I have an online meeting in 10 minutes... off you pop, take these biscuits I won't finish them' and shovel him out the door!

Haha. This is great advice about speaking to the other members! I will do that.

I might even do it word for word because I like the fucking limpet bit!

I did not even notice how much time had passed until the last hour as I am not a watch wearer and we really did get on great. But I have so many male friends with whom I can have a chat and a giggle for eight hours and they have never behaved weirdly. Had I realised the time though, he'd have been out way sooner!

And he ate all the cake.

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ShamrockShenanigans · 17/11/2025 19:09

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 19:01

I said this because in his message in the group chat, he was saying how much he missed cuddles and that he hoped to find a partner again, but not yet. Whenever I meet a man as a single friend, I habitually make clear that I am not searching for any more than friendship.

If he hadn't mentioned being open to a new partner, I would not have mentioned it to him either but I'd have been more cautious because I would not have given him a clear message. As it is, I don't think I could have been clearer as I dropped the F word (friend!) in at every opportunity!

I said this because in his message in the group chat, he was saying how much he missed cuddles and that he hoped to find a partner again, but not yet.

Oh, ok.

This would've rang very loud alarm bells for me considering his wife's body was barely cold.

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 19:09

And I am peed off that I now can't have a friendship with someone I got on well with, as he's been a complete arse.

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Letsgodancing · 17/11/2025 19:12

It really does sound like as another poster said 'no good deed goes unpunished' but well done on standing your ground this morning.
Some men do rely on women for all their needs and once she is no longer around, literally they will go to anyone who will have them and waste no time, whereas women tend to cope much better on their own.
This man will probably be moved in with another woman 3-6 months. Poor lady !

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 19:14

ShamrockShenanigans · 17/11/2025 19:09

I said this because in his message in the group chat, he was saying how much he missed cuddles and that he hoped to find a partner again, but not yet.

Oh, ok.

This would've rang very loud alarm bells for me considering his wife's body was barely cold.

Yes, when I read it, I took it a bit differently in that his Facebook page is 100% about his wife. So, I thought the loss had been immense. I have seen this tendency in both men and women before, that when they have lost someone so pivotal, they just can't stand being alone for the bereavement period.

It was in that light that I took his comments, that he was missing her so much and couldn't stand the thought of aloneness in perpetuity. I think what was nice about him is that he had not one bad word to say about his wife.

My other male friends tend to speak badly about ex partners (but none has lost a partner through death, which is different, of course). So, this was novel to hear a man speak so well of his late wife, and I thought he really missed her! It may be that in life, he actually smothered her.

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AmberRose86 · 17/11/2025 19:14

I don’t tend to like people and this shit is why. So needy.

However…he’s lost his wife 6 weeks ago and probably isn’t in his right mind. Not that that is your problem of course. But I suspect in 6 months time he will look back at this time and want the ground to swallow him up 😳

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 19:15

Letsgodancing · 17/11/2025 19:12

It really does sound like as another poster said 'no good deed goes unpunished' but well done on standing your ground this morning.
Some men do rely on women for all their needs and once she is no longer around, literally they will go to anyone who will have them and waste no time, whereas women tend to cope much better on their own.
This man will probably be moved in with another woman 3-6 months. Poor lady !

You are so right, @Letsgodancing! Or he may have moved in with another woman in 3-6 weeks, never mind months! 😂

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