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And he showed up unannounced ... after I tried to help him.

291 replies

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 18:42

This is the first thread I have created, so be gentle, ha.

Okay, I saw a post on Facebook from a neighbour I did not know at all, saying how lonely he was since the death of his wife six weeks ago. Lots of people were saying nice things but I know, having suffered many deaths, that what he probably needed was company and a mind diversion for a few hours.

I said he was welcome for a cuppa at mine, stressing it would be friends only, that I am not looking for a relationship at all (and I hoped that as he was only six weeks bereaved, finding someone else would not be on his mind).

He came over the next day, and spent a massive eight hours here, by which time I was way past my work start time but as I am self-employed and we were getting on great and with many interests in common, I didn't make an issue of it.

After he left, I very quickly received a message asking, 'Please please, can we do that again as soon as possible?' and by the next morning, a message saying, 'I am waiting like a kid at Christmas for your reply!'

He also told me he was going to be working next door to me on the Monday morning, obviously dropping this news into the chat so I could say, 'Why don't you pop in?' Of course, I did not say that or give any encouragement, from which he should have deduced I wasn't into the idea of meeting again so soon.

I also had the feeling he had somehow 'engineered' the work next door to me as he never mentioned that during the Saturday meet-up.

The first time I had seen him was on the Saturday, when he'd arrived at 1pm and left at half past nine in the evening. Bit long for a cup of tea!

I reponded to his messages without showing the same ardour (the ardent messaging was already giving me the heebie jeebies, giving vibes that he saw me as more than a friend) but I said we could meet up again when I was next free, but that he should be aware I worked a lot.

I stressed I'd let him know when I was off work, and that we could go out and do an activity. I again stressed 'It is nice to meet local friends.'

Incidentally, I really do work a lot, usually around 12-14 hours a day, each day, except Saturdays when normally, I go out with an archaeology group. After that, I always work through on the Saturday night/Sunday morn to catch up.

I also told him that I was about to work an all-nighter from Sunday eve to Monday morning, and that on Monday, I was going to be out on a job all night so needed to catch up on sleep between Sunday night and Monday daytime.

Anyway!

It came to half past nine this morning and there were a few knocks on the door. I had expected it to be a parcel delivery so I answered. AAAAGH! There he was, standing hopping foot to foot, waiting to be invited in!

I was bloody angry and said I had just worked nights and he'd woken me up, which was true, and I'd dragged myself from bed looking like Worzel Gummidge. I must have looked both horrific and horrified!

He was waving two coffees about, which he'd bought at a local garage. I don't even drink coffee and said so, then that I had to go as I needed sleep because I am tonight working all night on a difficult task just as I'd told him. And I closed the door on him.

I was both mortified and embarrassed that he'd put me in that position. What a $$$$ing idiot!

To top it off, I checked the members' names, and he has gone and joined the same club I am a member of, where we go out on Saturdays. So now, I have to expect him to show up there as well. He actually was a member of it two years ago before I joined, and he did not like it. The first thing he told me was how bad it was, trying to get me to opt out of it.

I am in two minds about whether I should message the organiser and ask them to boot him out as he only rejoined the minute after leaving here on the Saturday night!

That's the last time I feel sorry for a bereaved male neighbour which is a shame. I have several male friends who don't behave like this and have never shown up at the door. They wouldn't dream of it!

AIBU to have no tolerance for him showing up like that, and to not contact him again despite his messages still coming on Facebook?

I feel sad that he's lost his wife but it doesn't give him a ticket to stalkerish, creepy behaviour. It's even worse that we have a few good friends in common, and I wonder if he will try to blacken my name for not continuing with the contact.

Having seen how he tried to get me to opt out of the club I am a member of, I would not be surprised.

OP posts:
Francestein · 18/11/2025 00:27

Someone on here equated the way a lot of men see their long term partner as an appliance. Like a washing machine, I think. The old one’s dead, I need another one. Immediately gets a new washing machine. This guy is looking for a new washing machine and is well and is trying to create a situation where you feel obliged to do his laundry. (Analogy of course, but probably also literal.)

Littlejellyuk · 18/11/2025 00:43

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 17/11/2025 23:31

Wasn't there a thread on here recently where a woman in her 50s was nice to the old bloke (80s) next door, he had just been widowed and she liked his wife and she went over for a chat because "he must be lonely". And the next day, he came to her door with a pair of his wife's knickers and said she should wear them when she came over and they'd have some fun 😬 😬 😬

My stepfather was also dating within 6 weeks of my mother's funeral. It felt really off and disrespectful and I've never looked at him the same since.

Oh my god I want to wash my eyes out with fairy liquid after reading that part about the dead wife's knickers 😭 🧼 🤢

JFDIYOLO · 18/11/2025 01:00

A friend in need is a ... Pest.

Littlejellyuk · 18/11/2025 01:05

Happyjoe · 17/11/2025 23:00

My dad got engaged to a neighbour 3 months after mum died. What made matters worse is she had the same name as my mum! My dad was not someone who could stand to be alone, but god, it was awful, but not as awful as when he phoned me up, stressed, to tell me he couldn't get it up and where could he get viagra. I am so not joking.. I tactfully said that perhaps it's because mum just died and his 'grieving' was stopping him. Never did like my dad much! 😁

Fucking hell viagra!?! 😳 🔷️ 😭 🤢 🤦‍♀️

Empress13 · 18/11/2025 01:06

You led him on OP who on earth entertains a neighbour for 9 hours ! Bizarre

Littlejellyuk · 18/11/2025 01:30

Empress13 · 18/11/2025 01:06

You led him on OP who on earth entertains a neighbour for 9 hours ! Bizarre

How did she lead him on? 🤔

SplendidUtterly · 18/11/2025 01:30

Sadly, a lot of men mistake an act of kindness for something else.

My DM is a few years older than you OP and in the last 3 years this has happened twice to her. Once with a man whose DM had died and another man she worked with who had lost his family due to his alcohol addiction (she'd took pity on him). Both ended up smitten and turning up unexpectedly for a "cuppa" aka foot in the door, going in for a unwanted kiss type.
😡

Cornishclio · 18/11/2025 01:45

Men don’t seem to do well on their own even recently widowed ones. I can see the invite came from a kind place but I wouldn’t have invited a stranger over and certainly not let him stay for 8 hours. That is ridiculous. Just make it clear from now on you aren’t interested in being any more than friends and no more tea/coffee invites.

Youtoldmeonce · 18/11/2025 01:55

This is why I prefer to visit friends so I can leave when I’m ready (usually a quick cup of tea) , rather than them come to me and over stay their welcome.

BeanQuisine · 18/11/2025 02:32

Something a bit odd about this one. It's the initial eight hour cuppa, "getting on great and with many interests in common", I don't understand.

It's no wonder he thought you were keen and must have been confused indeed by the change in tone.

abracadabra1980 · 18/11/2025 03:10

101Alsatians · 17/11/2025 18:53

You let a stranger that you 'didn't know at all' into your house and for such a huge chunk of time?

You sound very kind but you've been a bit daft.

Agree - EIGHT hours is just unbelievable, even in such a sad scenario. I’d have made my excuses after 80 minutes. You’ve given far too much of yourself to this thick skinned man in that time alone.

DizzyDucklings · 18/11/2025 03:55

Sorry OP. This is what you get from responding to a stranger on the internet professing his loneliness to the world….

Roselily123 · 18/11/2025 04:40

shuggles · 17/11/2025 23:12

@MungoforPresident There's no issue with pushing someone away if you need time and space for yourself.

What many people don't realise is that men are far more emotional than women. Men fall in love very easily, and feel love very intensely. Men are desperate to find relationships and to have someone to keep them company. Men are hurt far more by heartbreak. Unfortunately, this is the reason why so many men may exhibit desperate and clingy behaviour, when not being mindful of how women might perceive them.

I actually would agree with this … no need to put up with this man’s behaviour though

Nandina · 18/11/2025 06:01

You were unreasonable to have anything to do with a man who used the word 'cuddles'.

Summerhillsquare · 18/11/2025 06:02

ProudWomanXX · 17/11/2025 22:01

Given your background, I'm astonished you would have sent a message like that to this so very recent widower?
I'm honestly not trying to victim blame, but really?
Such nievity!

You've overlooked the creative writing angle.

I've read as far as this with rising incredulity 😂

Pedallleur · 18/11/2025 06:33

Littlejellyuk · 18/11/2025 00:43

Oh my god I want to wash my eyes out with fairy liquid after reading that part about the dead wife's knickers 😭 🧼 🤢

the good news is he wasn't wearing them! But even so....

chocolateychurros · 18/11/2025 06:35

Yanbu, you wanted to help, but he either got the wrong idea or is just a bit…I don’t want to be mean because he’s just lost his wife but yanbu definitely.

LaLoba · 18/11/2025 06:51

ProudWomanXX · 17/11/2025 22:01

Given your background, I'm astonished you would have sent a message like that to this so very recent widower?
I'm honestly not trying to victim blame, but really?
Such nievity!

I’m struggling to believe someone in that line of work would be such a pushover to allow someone outstay their welcome so spectacularly, on top of the apparent naivety of inviting a lonely man who’s ‘missing cuddles’ over. Quite the yarn OP 🤔

MikeRafone · 18/11/2025 07:27

what a shame he was such a tit, you were generous with your time and kind to someone just having lost their life long partner. You made it very clear your position and he didn't listen

I reached out to an chap I knew through others as his wife had died, I explained very clearly I wasn't after "him" in any shape or way and we've met up regularly for a couple of years. He says it's easy as I knew his wife and their story before and he has lots of close friends who he has surrounded himself with and not made a tit of himself by stalking them.

Some men listen or don't have an ulterior motive in the first place

PracticalPixie · 18/11/2025 07:33

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 22:03

That is daft. Inviting a neighbour to a cup of tea is hardly naive. I do not know why it is that on Mumsnet, every thread starts off sensibly and gets derailed by people who see men as a threat.

There's nothing threatening here.

Edited

I honestly think you are naive about modern dating.

You keep saying "he was a perfect gentleman when he came over, he didn't try anything at all", but now look how weird he is being. He is not a perfect gentleman. He is clearly not right. Hopefully just a phase related to his grief, but, yes, I'm sorry but I do think you are naive.

The fact you had to make it clear "just friends ok?" says it all. Just don't invite people over if you need to spell it out to them that you won't be having sex with them or starting a relationship immediately.

Tillygan60 · 18/11/2025 07:40

NRTFT but this is surely just a story?!

CautiousLurker2 · 18/11/2025 07:42

MungoforPresident · 17/11/2025 22:03

That is daft. Inviting a neighbour to a cup of tea is hardly naive. I do not know why it is that on Mumsnet, every thread starts off sensibly and gets derailed by people who see men as a threat.

There's nothing threatening here.

Edited

Agree. In your shoes, if he messages again, I’d just reply: ‘It was nice to meet you the other day and hope you are feeling a bit better. However I think there may be a little confusion as to what i was offering - a quick occasional cuppa for half an hour was what I intended while you are adjusting to your loss. I’m afraid I am not looking for deep friendship myself or any sort of relationship as I am very busy with work and family. Can I suggest you reach out to your GP for counselling support or to a bereavement service such as Cruse. Take care. ’

Alltheunreadbooks · 18/11/2025 07:42

I'm not sure if there is any Neuro Diversity here on your part, OP, but no-one has somebody round for 8 hours for a cuppa on first meeting. What did you do for meals, for example?.

I wouldn't have family or a best friend round for half that time without something else planned.

Your work life rings alarms bells as well, at 60 why are you working such crazy hours?.

I'm sorry to victim blame but this bloke must have got the weirdest of signals from you, then his entitled behaviour did this rest.

ShiftingSand · 18/11/2025 07:45

HighlyUnusual · 17/11/2025 23:06

No, he won't be mortified because he's clearly inappropriate and boundary trampling, and after a few months, he'll have probably got a new girlfriend. I have seen it happen so many times with men, they prefer to grieve with a new woman to listen to their issues, rather than be single, deal with them and then launch into new relationships. The stats of marrying after bereavement for men vs women bear this out. He'll just do this to several women til he finds a new one.

Or he will do this😊 I was trying to be optimistic

peacefulscene · 18/11/2025 07:58

Alltheunreadbooks · 18/11/2025 07:42

I'm not sure if there is any Neuro Diversity here on your part, OP, but no-one has somebody round for 8 hours for a cuppa on first meeting. What did you do for meals, for example?.

I wouldn't have family or a best friend round for half that time without something else planned.

Your work life rings alarms bells as well, at 60 why are you working such crazy hours?.

I'm sorry to victim blame but this bloke must have got the weirdest of signals from you, then his entitled behaviour did this rest.

I agree with all of this. I find it a massive stretch to think you didnt realise 8 hours had passed and if you have a day job and a night job - surely you were due at work at some point during this time period so would have been checking the time!

I also find it odd considering your job you seem so naive about this man and are still calling him a "gent". He's not a fcking "gent" he's a creepy pervert who is practically stalking you now- turning up at your home unannounced to the point you had to shout at him to leave, joining clubs you are in just to be close to you and sending you multiple unwanted Facebook messages.

This is all appalling behaviour and yet you say "There's nothing threatening here". Really? I suggest you read up on how stalking starts because the picture you have painted is textbook stalking 101. If you cannot see that I would be very worried you are in a job working with the police and "surveillance".