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To think there's something really off about this woman?

213 replies

BelatrixLestrange · 17/11/2025 18:22

Sorry for the Daily Fail link, but this is the third video I've seen over as many weeks with this woman acting oddly possessive over Arianna.

AIBU to think her behaviour is off?

Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo cause a stir with ANOTHER 'ridiculous' red carpet moment | Daily Mail Online https://share.google/sqbD37a6vMwwNNn8m

Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo cause stir with red carpet stunt

The Wicked: For Good co-stars have had multiple 'bizarre' red carpet exchanges when promoting the first Wicked film, with yet another clip now resurfacing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15297173/Ariana-Grande-Cynthia-Erivo-red-carpet-necklace.html

OP posts:
SandyLanes · 19/11/2025 07:07

It’s all very performative with these two.

AnnunciataM · 19/11/2025 08:00

Wildthingsinthecarpet · 19/11/2025 02:45

Ariana Grande comes across in interviews as being much more grounded and bright than Cynthia Eviro, which is amazing considering her Nickelodeon past.

That, coupled with Grandes huge fame, might grate with Eviro, who is over compensating in her treatment of Grande.

Erivo. And yes, award-winning actress and vocal powerhouse Cynthia Erivo must be jealous of her co-star 🙄

Otterdrunk · 19/11/2025 08:08

ThatSourGobstopper · 19/11/2025 06:44

Ariana looks like she is suffering from anorexia. She is painfully thin.

Cynthia appeared on strictly this year. I don’t know if she is naturally slim or what. Motsi has lost weight and looks the picture of health. Tess and Claudia looked a lot thinner, almost scrawny. Is it a coincidence or are they all taking fat loss jabs?

I think they are - sadly. No judgement to people who are on them - just don’t think it’s healthy if you are already thin. It’s filtering down so much. Off topic but why I think it’s really good that Kelly Brook isn’t succumbing to the pressure to use them (on I’m a Celeb currently & will be seen in a bikini at some stage).

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 19/11/2025 08:22

I’ve been wondering about WLI, Motsi and Tess. Less so Claudia as she is so petite already. Tess as a taller, stronger build is definitely startlingly lean- hard to achieve.

Motsi looks beautiful, and I imagine feels a lot better. As a bigger busted woman, some of her outfits used to look uncomfortable. Obviously I’m projecting my own discomfort as a bigger woman with feeling trussed up in some clothes!

SouthernFashionista · 19/11/2025 08:24

Agree OP. That woman is freakish. I cannot bear her.

And as for Michelle Obama bleating about all the barriers she has faced. It’s incredibly tone deaf. It doesn’t surprise me she’s jumped on the injection bandwagon. She’s a disgrace to my race IMO.

BatshitOutofHell · 19/11/2025 08:36

ThatSourGobstopper · 19/11/2025 06:44

Ariana looks like she is suffering from anorexia. She is painfully thin.

Cynthia appeared on strictly this year. I don’t know if she is naturally slim or what. Motsi has lost weight and looks the picture of health. Tess and Claudia looked a lot thinner, almost scrawny. Is it a coincidence or are they all taking fat loss jabs?

I have never seen anyone look as beautiful on weight loss drugs as Motsi does. So, I suspect that her weight loss is natural - all that dancing! I think she gained weight before because she had a baby (?).

As for the others - the jury is out. I hate seeing women make themselves so scrawny and then they lie and say they are naturally thin (I'm looking at you, Victoria Beckham). Naturally thin women don't look the way that they do.

Does anyone watch Selling Sunset (awful I know but we all have our guilty pleasures). One of the women on that has gained quite a bit of weight (she reckons about 40lbs) and looks absolutely gorgeous. We need to see more stories like this so that young women know that curviness is OK.

Sorry for the stream of thought, but I was thinking the other day that bmi as a way of categorising health may one day be abolished and that there will be other markers of health apart from weight. Some on MN opine about the normalisation of overweight, but perhaps it SHOULD be normalised because it's normal.

TheKeatingFive · 19/11/2025 08:50

Motsi looks amazing, agreed. But that might be knowing when to stop rather than anything to do with how she lost the weight. I hope she doesn't lose any more.

truthsayers · 19/11/2025 08:51

NewYearSameMe16 · 18/11/2025 19:27

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to mention how painfully thin they look when they star in and are promoting a film which has young girls as a target audience.

After the pic of Michelle Yeoh also looking ill came out, someone said it reminded them of the 90s show Ally McBeal where the women in the cast were ‘competitively anorexic’, i.e. battling to see who could be the thinnest. The cast came out years later to talk about it and I suspect we’ll hear the same about this movie in due course.

I agree. And mumsnetters are frequently competitively anorexic on weight loss threads, where 8 stone, size 8 posters chat about their pot belly and being tubby. As if.
It will all come out.
I remember having conversations about the spice girls in the 90’s, with friends who declared that they weren’t underweight and it was just all the dancing they did.
I said that they probably had eating disorders.
It was denied by my friend and by the spice girls.
And years later, at least 3 of the spice girls, Mel C, Geri and Victoria Beckham, have all spoken publicly about their eating disorders.

TheKeatingFive · 19/11/2025 08:51

I just saw pics of Michelle Yeoh and that is scary. I don't know what went down on the set of Wicked, but it has had a terrible affect on all these women.

popcornandpotatoes · 19/11/2025 08:52

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 18/11/2025 18:49

AG was subject to a terror attack at one of her concerts. She has PTSD.
She has partnered up with another woman for a huge film and the OW, Cynthia has seen how fragile AG is/was and she has been a huge support for her.

Yes they are very thin.
So fucking what??!!

Some commenters are just disgusting.

Ariana has been a hugely successful world famous popstar in the years since the terror attack. It is only since Wicked that she has started behaving like a baby bird.

I am a fan of both of them and think they are both hugely talented people but their behaviour is undeniably weird. I don't see how that is offensive to you?

So fucking what? They both look ill and it is concerning, especially given they are in the middle of a massive press tour for a film that is being marketed at children. Quite why it is being marketed at children is another question for me, but hey ho

popcornandpotatoes · 19/11/2025 08:56

User5306921 · 18/11/2025 22:47

I don't have a clue who she is - well obviously I now know from this thread she was in Wicked (one of the worst films I've had to endure with my DC).
I am aware of Ariana from Hannah Montana as my kid watched it daily a few years ago, although I couldn't tell you which character she played, and sadly from the Manchester bombings.

Really got your finger on the pulse 😂

User5306921 · 19/11/2025 09:10

popcornandpotatoes · 19/11/2025 08:56

Really got your finger on the pulse 😂

They are as irrelevant to me as I am to them 😀

skippy67 · 19/11/2025 09:26

SouthernFashionista · 19/11/2025 08:24

Agree OP. That woman is freakish. I cannot bear her.

And as for Michelle Obama bleating about all the barriers she has faced. It’s incredibly tone deaf. It doesn’t surprise me she’s jumped on the injection bandwagon. She’s a disgrace to my race IMO.

🙄🙄

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 19/11/2025 09:32

popcornandpotatoes · 19/11/2025 08:52

Ariana has been a hugely successful world famous popstar in the years since the terror attack. It is only since Wicked that she has started behaving like a baby bird.

I am a fan of both of them and think they are both hugely talented people but their behaviour is undeniably weird. I don't see how that is offensive to you?

So fucking what? They both look ill and it is concerning, especially given they are in the middle of a massive press tour for a film that is being marketed at children. Quite why it is being marketed at children is another question for me, but hey ho

I'm not offended.
Everyone has an opinion just like we have arseholes. We don't have to agree. 🤷🏼‍♂️
I just don't like to see women put other women down, or anyone for that matter. And before you tell me that no one's putting her down, yes they do.
I'm not saying that you are, but a lot of people who make comments on her are just rude and not necessary.
"Eat a burger" for example.
Would someone really say that to an anorexic?

She had her memory erased or something like that and then she was as thin.

I have no issue with how they behave.
I'm quite odd often and I dgaf.

I just don't like seeing people talk ill of her (and CO).

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 19/11/2025 09:33

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 19/11/2025 09:32

I'm not offended.
Everyone has an opinion just like we have arseholes. We don't have to agree. 🤷🏼‍♂️
I just don't like to see women put other women down, or anyone for that matter. And before you tell me that no one's putting her down, yes they do.
I'm not saying that you are, but a lot of people who make comments on her are just rude and not necessary.
"Eat a burger" for example.
Would someone really say that to an anorexic?

She had her memory erased or something like that and then she was as thin.

I have no issue with how they behave.
I'm quite odd often and I dgaf.

I just don't like seeing people talk ill of her (and CO).

I agree on the not for children part though.
Wicked 2 seems a lot darker than the first....

SlothMama14 · 19/11/2025 09:41

BatshitOutofHell · 19/11/2025 08:36

I have never seen anyone look as beautiful on weight loss drugs as Motsi does. So, I suspect that her weight loss is natural - all that dancing! I think she gained weight before because she had a baby (?).

As for the others - the jury is out. I hate seeing women make themselves so scrawny and then they lie and say they are naturally thin (I'm looking at you, Victoria Beckham). Naturally thin women don't look the way that they do.

Does anyone watch Selling Sunset (awful I know but we all have our guilty pleasures). One of the women on that has gained quite a bit of weight (she reckons about 40lbs) and looks absolutely gorgeous. We need to see more stories like this so that young women know that curviness is OK.

Sorry for the stream of thought, but I was thinking the other day that bmi as a way of categorising health may one day be abolished and that there will be other markers of health apart from weight. Some on MN opine about the normalisation of overweight, but perhaps it SHOULD be normalised because it's normal.

We need to see more stories like this so that young women know that curviness is OK.

This x a million! Chelsea on Selling Sunset looks amazing now she's gained 40lbs. I also think Kelly Brook looks absolutely gorgeous on I'm A Celeb. I've just been reading an article where Kelly says she has no plans to ever lose weight because when she was at her thinnest she was also at her unhappiest. That really struck a chord. When I was my slimmest I lived on my own, wasn't in a relationship – and I was really lonely. Now I'm three stone heavier with a loving partner and DD, living in my dream house and doing my dream job. Yet every day I feel bad about my weight because society pressures me to think I should. I'm an hourglass like Kelly with similar big boobs and instead of embracing my size I hide it under baggy clothes.

I'd love a new system to replace BMI too.

As for Ariana, she seems really fragile and I wouldn't be surprised if she has delayed PTSD from the bombing.

Sartre · 19/11/2025 09:44

They both seem really odd and Ariana looks like she needs to be hospitalised for an eating disorder.

Sartre · 19/11/2025 09:45

SlothMama14 · 19/11/2025 09:41

We need to see more stories like this so that young women know that curviness is OK.

This x a million! Chelsea on Selling Sunset looks amazing now she's gained 40lbs. I also think Kelly Brook looks absolutely gorgeous on I'm A Celeb. I've just been reading an article where Kelly says she has no plans to ever lose weight because when she was at her thinnest she was also at her unhappiest. That really struck a chord. When I was my slimmest I lived on my own, wasn't in a relationship – and I was really lonely. Now I'm three stone heavier with a loving partner and DD, living in my dream house and doing my dream job. Yet every day I feel bad about my weight because society pressures me to think I should. I'm an hourglass like Kelly with similar big boobs and instead of embracing my size I hide it under baggy clothes.

I'd love a new system to replace BMI too.

As for Ariana, she seems really fragile and I wouldn't be surprised if she has delayed PTSD from the bombing.

This can go both ways. I’m personally happiest and feel my most confident when I’m a size 10 (I’m 5 ft 7 so this is slim for my height). If I go much above this, my BMI also gets slightly high and I feel like shit.

JHound · 19/11/2025 09:50

They’re both weird but they are both accepting of each other’s weirdness so shrugs

SlothMama14 · 19/11/2025 09:54

Sartre · 19/11/2025 09:45

This can go both ways. I’m personally happiest and feel my most confident when I’m a size 10 (I’m 5 ft 7 so this is slim for my height). If I go much above this, my BMI also gets slightly high and I feel like shit.

Oh I'm definitely not happy with the bigger number on the scale! I feel enormous when I see how much I weigh. But if I don't think about it, I'm absolutely fine and just truck along with life. I do wonder if I have reverse body dysmorphia – I look in the mirror and think I look slim but the scale and my jean size tell me otherwise!

surreygirly · 19/11/2025 10:07

Who cares

goldenmagicbiscuittin · 19/11/2025 10:08

hamstersarse · 17/11/2025 18:29

They both seem to be possessed...by narcissism

That word is thrown around too much, but in this case, not enough.

Hahaha! THIS.

They both seem like complete narcs to me. My God, the attention seeking is off the charts.

TheWorldIsCrushingMe · 19/11/2025 10:50

AG clearly isn't comfortable in her own skin. She's always changing her look and voice (not in a 'refresh!' kind of way, but in an entirely different persona kind of way - look up her black fishing, Asian fishing phases etc.)

I do think that if she's not getting help, this latest incarnation might be her last. She looks desperately ill. Maybe Erivo is trying to support her but it just comes off as weird.

ThatCyanCat · 19/11/2025 11:27

Cynthia got right between Ariana and that loon who tried to rush her in Singapore. She was properly using her body to shield Ariana. That was brave, he could have been armed or completely insane. I think that shows that whatever else is going on, she does genuinely care about Ariana and she's courageous.

BatchCookBabe · 19/11/2025 11:34

ThatCyanCat · 19/11/2025 11:27

Cynthia got right between Ariana and that loon who tried to rush her in Singapore. She was properly using her body to shield Ariana. That was brave, he could have been armed or completely insane. I think that shows that whatever else is going on, she does genuinely care about Ariana and she's courageous.

This. ^

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