Please answer this question firstly with a number. What proportion of men - who had they been born into wealth and status - would have sex with a 17 year old attractive girl whom they’d never met before?

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I don’t know the answer, but I’m upset to say that I’d put the number somewhere in the 30-40% range.

Almost all of them. I'd say 90% of straight men. You've only got to look at how pop stars have behaved in the past.

I would say 80-90% minimum.

90%

80%

Regardless of wealth and status I'd imagine a very high proportion, assuming she was/appeared willing. I'd hope older men might think a little but younger ones would assume she fancied them.

If it was obvious they’d been trafficked?

About 100% of nonces.

I'm not sure tbh. Are you thinking of someone over, say, 30?

I don't think there would be much if any differernce based on wealth though.

90%

Your OP is very vague.

Is this about that awful and creepy - and now luckily exposed - character in the so-called Firm?!

I’d imagine so - there’s been articles about VG’s post-humous memoir today.

Sorry, yes I meant to put in the original post, a man over the age of 40.

How many would woman would be dazzled by the money and would sleep with the man because they thought he would spend money on them?

Sadly, I would have to say at least 70%.

If the late Queen couldn’t get it right, what hope is there for most?

How old are the men?

I see this has been answered

I would say 46.78%

Over 40. Sorry - I meant to put that in title.

I don’t understand your question, the wealth and status bit? I’d guess a similar proportion to you, but would depend on various factors.

Based on men I know well? Men in their 40s, unmarried, without kids, maybe 50-60%. With kids but no longer married maybe 20%. Married with kids 10-15%. Looking at this thread I think I must know unusually nice men though.

Do you know, I went looking and discovered that until 2024 it was legal to have sex with a 17 year old and even marry her without parental permission, in both NY and DC, obviously not to traffic or pimp her out, but still, technically the Windsor pickle committed no crime. Which is not to say Giuffre wasn't terribly a victim of, as far as I can see, practically every man she ever had in her life, and yes, our guy was/is an ass, and Epstein clearly a criminal. But, well... actually I am not sure what my point is except that clearly standards have risen, thank goodness. Oh, and that it is typical that Maxwell, the woman, is basically the one taking all the official punishment. It seems to be a continuing rule that ultimately a woman is always to blame ...

Not many of the married ones. Of the single ones a low double figures percentage. Because not that many men are sexually attracted to girls who could be their children. Or if they were wouldn’t act on it.

I suspect most do if they have some kind of 'celebrity' status. They can't go to the pub and meet people like normal people or go on online dating etc. I imagine sleeping with escorts/prostitutes (whatever you want to call them) is rife. It's seedy but perfectly legal.

How often the women are groomed or doing it willingly is unknown. Whether the man knows whether they've been groomed or doing it willingly is also unknown.

80

Maxwell is the only one taking punishment because Epstein is dead! It was a joint entity. Of course she should take the punishment. How can you possibly defend her?!

It very much depends on age. Up to 25 most, but I’d hope it would drop off quite quickly, sadly never to 0 for any age band.

80% if they thought they could get away with it and of course the rich and powerful believe they are immune from any sort of consequences.
Sadly they are mostly quite right.

If they thought there would no consequences the vast majority of men would do it.