What’s your prediction of the next cause the ‘activists’ are going to move into, after Gaza?

[Dangeos]

Seems like they’re getting bored of Palestine now that it’s a bit awkward talking about Hamas killing Palestinians in the streets.

so what do we think the next big cause is that they’re going to move onto? Do we think they'll finally bother to start talking about the awful crisis in Sudan? Or is there a trendier topic emerging?

My posting history is almost entirely FWR.

So when did I complain that threads should be deleted? The closest I can find is when I can only assume I was called a liar from the context of my reply because the post was deleted, I said I wanted the slur withdrawn not the post.

The Nigerian hostages? Nope.

The Yazidi hostages? Well, the IDF pulled one out from Gaza last year so that proves eleven years of slave trading but, nope, nothing to see here, either.

Oh, I know, that every evolutionary biologist knows is to be believed when they say big gametes means female and small gametes means male. But that would leave a trail of hurty feels so probably not.

So, I dunno, really.

68k dead including 18k children. Largest number of child amputees in the world. Aid agencies thwarted at every opportunity. Silencing of journalists. But yeah, thankfully, nothing really terrible happened there and anyone who objected was just trying to be trendy.

No one claims that war isn't horrific or that it isn't terrible (just like October 7 was terrible and horrific).

But sadly we live in a world where these things are happening around the world and, yet, Gaza is the only issue that seems to be worth protesting and boycotting about.

Plus the demonstrations are not really about achieving peace, they're about destroying Israel. If I remember, the mantra was "Ceasefire now". OK, so there's a ceasefire and yet that's not good enough.

And even more so, if it was all about protecting Palestinians - why no outrage over Hamas executing dozens of civilians in the street, including children?

Why were there no protests to protect Palestinians when it was Hezbollah who was slaughtering them?

I think no one has described the particular horrors of this war better than james elder.from the unicef. As I've said elsewhere on mumsnet. Even if you dont read or watch anything else on gaza please do watch this interview of james elder on the rest of politics. He also goes into a number of differences between gaza and other conflicts around the world (which in my opinion also dont get enough air time or compassion)

The 'rebuilding" of Palestine. What does that mean? You mean Gaza I assume.

And remedial education for Israeli "perpetrators" (so what, reeducation camps is your suggestion? We've heard that one before...) but apparently it's all ok with the Palestinian perpetrators? They are just loving and kind and only resisting oppression. You know, the ones who are currently executing their rivals in the street? When previously they threw their rivals from the roofs?

Perhaps it'd be good if the Palestinians focused on building a democratic and inclusive society and the institutions of state if they REALLY want to achieve a state of their own. But that's kinda boring and hard work and not exactly as romantic as fighting imperialism.

What a nasty sneery post. What do you do to make the world better OP?

A recent example.. haven’t heard any of them marching against Hamas publicly executing Gazan children in streets.. where’s the outrage and chanting?

We've seen the protests and moral panics come and go over the last few years - Brexit, Covid, BLM, climate change, Ukraine, trans and Israel. In some cases they arguments were absurd, in others the cause might have had virtue but the far left did it no good by making the loudest noise from the most insane base.

I wonder if the next big thing will be something quite different: It'll be demands that anyone richer than them (ie £10 million to billionaires) pay much higher rates of taxation to fund them not working and taking medication for their mental health issues (particularly ADHD). The left openly despises the working class and poor now, but they need to have a reason to tax the rich heavily, and that could well be it.

After all, everything wrong in the world is down to people with more wealth than you and mental health

Celibates. They must have safe spaces away from anything that might trigger the wrong response in their bodies like seeing women's ankles or men's collar bones.

I agree with you on the work needing to be done (though they are already a recognised state as I’m sure you are aware). I think the damage done to the Israelis is often overlooked though while the difficulties the Palestinians face are rather more obvious. You may feel outraged at the suggestion the Israelis will need help to recover after the atrocities that have been committed but nonetheless the members of the IDF who committed them will be back in your homes, schools, synagogues, streets and communities. These are people who have reached a level of horror and seen and done things most of us will never have to face up to. They will not be healed without recognition and help. Pretending it can all go back to how it was is beyond foolish.

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Many Israelis as well as Palestinians have been murdered, experienced horror, been disabled and bereaved since October 6th 2023. Trauma on a national level.

It can not be ignored.

I disagree completely, activists are usually lost little trouble makers IMO

Our government is not arming or supporting Hamas.

It"s common knowledge that members of the Jewish Diaspora and Israelis have marched against what is happening in Gaza.

Very few. And many Jews are those who happen to have discovered a Jewish grandmother quite recently,.

While there are many who may oppose Israel's actions in Gaza and would be happy to see a peace deal, few Jews would feel comfortable with the slogans, chants and placards on show on these marches. These marches are not pro Palestinian but anti Israel. Big difference

There's a big difference between post trauma and mental health support which is obviously totally needed and "remedial education".
You don't think Gazans might need this too?

Anyway, anyone who talks about Israelis soldiers 'coming back' into communities has no idea or comprehension about how Israel society works.

Jews in Israel and around the world have opposed Netenyahu's genocide in Gaza. The Palestinian Diaspora, worried and in mourning seek peace for themselves and their families. People who aren't Jewish also oppose Netenyahu's policies.

No one is in any doubt that antisemites have jumped on the bandwagon, but to say that all those protesting Benjamin Netenyahu's actions in Gaza want the annihilation of Jews is as ridiculous as it is disgusting and divisive.

Yeah it went very quiet didn’t it?

Hopefully between them they'll enjoy their retirement, get a job and have a good wash. Even some of the police have said you can smell them before you can see them.

Umm, do you have issues with reading comprehension?
I literally said wrote that many oppose israel's actions in gaza. I also said the marches are anti israel rather than pro Palestinian and that is absolutely the case.

Do you have issues following the thread of conversation? Show quote history is your friend.

Who in the police said that? Do you have a link?

Anyone who doesn’t understand how being part of murdering tens of thousands will impact those who were there and how they will carry that back into their homes is wilfully shortsighted. Do you honestly think this was just another period of national service for those involved?

Absolutely. We should all just stop talking about the genocide and then it will go away, just liked worked for holocaust, eh?