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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Does anyone else feel like this about Gaza/Israel?

290 replies

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:19

I know it sounds awful, but I’m desperate for a break from Gaza. I feel like we’ve had 2 straight years of hearing about absolutely nothing else. It feels like you can’t switch the radio on, or open Facebook, or even pop to the shop without hearing chants of PALESTINE and having flags waved in your face. It’s been absolutely relentless, and wildly disproportionate compared to other conflicts and atrocities around the world.

Of course it’s hideous that so many civilians have been killed, in particular children. But it feels like Palestine truly believes it is the only population who suffered during the 1940s and is the only country to ever lose territory or be reshaped by global events. I feel like everyone else adjusted to their new normal, for the sake of peace, while Palestinians just continue what seems like an infinite grudge which is then met with harsher repressions by Israel as they have to defend themselves.

It’s utterly exhausting the globe and I have zero hope they will now smell the coffee and take the opportunity to kick Hamas out because ultimately they don’t want peace. Hamas did not drop out of the sky, they and Oct 7 had high support until they started losing, and I think it’s very unlikely they will ever be willing to move on from past events.

AIBU to think we now just need to leave them to it for the sake of all involved?

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Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:43

Paddington5 · 13/10/2025 10:39

Well 67,000 have been killed and not by some nutjob dictator with boy soldiers but by a westernised country fully supported (and wouldn’t manage without them) by the US and their peace prize demanding president.
I didn’t think we’d heard enough about the horror and cruelty and all we get in the news is the nutter killing at the synagogue -that is terrible but pales into significance to starving babies and 67,000 dead imv

And now Hamas have picked up the torch and are murdering Palestinians themselves, I wonder how many anti Hamas marches we can expect?

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Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:43

Hoppinggreen · 13/10/2025 10:42

Thoughts and prayers OP
Unlike the people of Gaza you can avoid all of it by switching off the news and/or not starting a thread on MN about it

And people in Nigeria? Who can’t avoid their slaughter but have no coverage either?

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notatinydancer · 13/10/2025 10:44

Wow. I feel for you.
I’ve been managing to ‘pop to the shop’ without anyone waving a flag in my face though.

Bundleflower · 13/10/2025 10:44

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:43

And now Hamas have picked up the torch and are murdering Palestinians themselves, I wonder how many anti Hamas marches we can expect?

Probably quite a few. I don’t know of anybody who supports terrorists. I hope that the innocent people of Palestine will one day be free of any oppression from anybody.

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:44

DashboardConfession · 13/10/2025 10:42

I've noticed that the people who want to stop hearing about it tend to fall on the pro-Israel side.

Probably because it’s not their Saturday morning hobby and they’re happy to let the negotiation now play out without interfering?

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Wainscot · 13/10/2025 10:44

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 13/10/2025 10:27

Hopefully you'll get the break you need soon. There has been loads of news coverage but weirdly none of it has focused on the real victim which turned out to be you.

😂

NikkiPotnick · 13/10/2025 10:45

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:43

And now Hamas have picked up the torch and are murdering Palestinians themselves, I wonder how many anti Hamas marches we can expect?

Quite.

So in a roundabout way, you might get your wish as a consequence of that.

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:45

Bundleflower · 13/10/2025 10:44

Probably quite a few. I don’t know of anybody who supports terrorists. I hope that the innocent people of Palestine will one day be free of any oppression from anybody.

Instagram is awash with Hamas apologists. The trendy new line is ‘they’re the resistance!’ . I don’t even remember the IRA taking hostages but okay.

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CrossChecking · 13/10/2025 10:46

Mealy82 · 13/10/2025 10:29

I find it very odd that there are several areas of the world, such as Nigeria, Sudan and China, where there are mass killings going on. Far more people have been killed in those countries than in Gaza. Apparently in two of those places they unequivocally meet the criteria for genocide.

And yet there is absolutely nothing on the BBC about this. Almost noone knows that these genocides are happening.

20,000 children taken from Ukraine to Russia but wall to wall coverage of 20 soldiers held in Gaza. Very odd indeed.

Bundleflower · 13/10/2025 10:46

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:45

Instagram is awash with Hamas apologists. The trendy new line is ‘they’re the resistance!’ . I don’t even remember the IRA taking hostages but okay.

I don’t know what you interact with but I’ve not seen anything like that on social media. I think you’ll find that many people DO support normal everyday Palestinians and DON’T support Hamas. I’m one of them!

nomas · 13/10/2025 10:47

YABU because:

  1. you think Palestinians personally care what you think. They care about not being bombed, of being able to go back to their homes, about not more of their land being stolen by Israeli settlers. Your ennui does not impinge on them. So if you're annoyed by the media coverage, be annoyed at the media, not Palestinians.

  2. You push the same old tropes and equate Palestinians with Hamas, so it's clear you're pro-Israel. Just say that, your platitudes are nauseating.

DashboardConfession · 13/10/2025 10:47

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:44

Probably because it’s not their Saturday morning hobby and they’re happy to let the negotiation now play out without interfering?

Oh yes, that's definitely the reason.

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:47

CrossChecking · 13/10/2025 10:46

20,000 children taken from Ukraine to Russia but wall to wall coverage of 20 soldiers held in Gaza. Very odd indeed.

Melania Trump is the key negotiator there, I’ve been following this too (or trying to)

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Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 13/10/2025 10:47

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:25

I feel I should be able to keep some kind of awareness about the world around me without being utterly bombarded by 1 issue. And in any event, even trying to catch a train here means you can’t avoid it as there is a permanent protest outside the station.

Diddums.

Buy a (decent) newspaper instead of watching / scrolling the news.

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:48

nomas · 13/10/2025 10:47

YABU because:

  1. you think Palestinians personally care what you think. They care about not being bombed, of being able to go back to their homes, about not more of their land being stolen by Israeli settlers. Your ennui does not impinge on them. So if you're annoyed by the media coverage, be annoyed at the media, not Palestinians.

  2. You push the same old tropes and equate Palestinians with Hamas, so it's clear you're pro-Israel. Just say that, your platitudes are nauseating.

YABU because

  1. What?? 🤣 when did I even remotely allude to that? Insane
  2. Pro Israel isn’t the dirty word you want it to be.
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nomas · 13/10/2025 10:48

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:27

😂

Why are you laughing? Go and get a job.

dairydebris · 13/10/2025 10:48

crackofdoom · 13/10/2025 10:31

I'd say that the absolute worst way to hear less about Gaza would be to start a thread on Mumsnet about Gaza.

Actually laughed out loud !!!

oldFoolMe · 13/10/2025 10:49

You don't have to read the gaza stories. All the news here is sensationalised to sell a story anyway ! I look at a range of news sites globally , but only for 10 min a day.

Bundleflower · 13/10/2025 10:49

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:48

YABU because

  1. What?? 🤣 when did I even remotely allude to that? Insane
  2. Pro Israel isn’t the dirty word you want it to be.

And the word ‘Palestine’ isn’t the dirty inconvenient word you don’t want to hear on your telebox anymore.

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:49

nomas · 13/10/2025 10:48

Why are you laughing? Go and get a job.

I have a job unlike the student protestors!

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Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:49

Bundleflower · 13/10/2025 10:49

And the word ‘Palestine’ isn’t the dirty inconvenient word you don’t want to hear on your telebox anymore.

Given I’ve used it several times isn’t that obvious?

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nomas · 13/10/2025 10:49

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:48

YABU because

  1. What?? 🤣 when did I even remotely allude to that? Insane
  2. Pro Israel isn’t the dirty word you want it to be.
  1. What?? 🤣 when did I even remotely allude to that? Insane

You literally said 'But it feels like Palestine truly believes it is the only population who suffered during the 1940s'

  1. Pro Israel isn’t the dirty word you want it to be.

So just say it then? Why the platitudes?

DashboardConfession · 13/10/2025 10:50

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:49

I have a job unlike the student protestors!

How do you know they don't do retail or bar work?

nomas · 13/10/2025 10:50

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:49

I have a job unlike the student protestors!

So and go and do the job instead of posting threads about subjects that you're 'desperate for a break from'.

Blondiney · 13/10/2025 10:50

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 13/10/2025 10:27

Hopefully you'll get the break you need soon. There has been loads of news coverage but weirdly none of it has focused on the real victim which turned out to be you.

You win the internet for at least an entire week 🤣