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Does anyone else feel like this about Gaza/Israel?

290 replies

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:19

I know it sounds awful, but I’m desperate for a break from Gaza. I feel like we’ve had 2 straight years of hearing about absolutely nothing else. It feels like you can’t switch the radio on, or open Facebook, or even pop to the shop without hearing chants of PALESTINE and having flags waved in your face. It’s been absolutely relentless, and wildly disproportionate compared to other conflicts and atrocities around the world.

Of course it’s hideous that so many civilians have been killed, in particular children. But it feels like Palestine truly believes it is the only population who suffered during the 1940s and is the only country to ever lose territory or be reshaped by global events. I feel like everyone else adjusted to their new normal, for the sake of peace, while Palestinians just continue what seems like an infinite grudge which is then met with harsher repressions by Israel as they have to defend themselves.

It’s utterly exhausting the globe and I have zero hope they will now smell the coffee and take the opportunity to kick Hamas out because ultimately they don’t want peace. Hamas did not drop out of the sky, they and Oct 7 had high support until they started losing, and I think it’s very unlikely they will ever be willing to move on from past events.

AIBU to think we now just need to leave them to it for the sake of all involved?

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Sunshineandoranges · 13/10/2025 11:53

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:25

I feel I should be able to keep some kind of awareness about the world around me without being utterly bombarded by 1 issue. And in any event, even trying to catch a train here means you can’t avoid it as there is a permanent protest outside the station.

I agree with you...obviously Gaza is a big thing but so is Ukraine and our many UK issues.

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 11:55

SpottedDeer · 13/10/2025 11:42

Ukrainian flags went out of fashion and were replaced with Palestinian flags. Just people virtue signalling that 'they care' about some conflict on the other side of the world which is nothing to do with them, without actually doing anything about it.

When people put the Ukrainian flags on their houses I hoped Ukrainian refugees would knock on their front doors asking for money and supplies and maybe even housing. At least then for these narcissistic virtue signallers lessons would be learned when saying no to their every request got too embarrassing.

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My experience has been different - Homes for Ukraine successfully enlisted 100,000 Brits who offered their homes and put their money where their mouth is. There are quite a few around here. The Ukraine supporters have been very focussed on practical support and not just marching and shouting obscenities about Russia.

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SpaceFrogs · 13/10/2025 11:56

Transparent. You don’t want to hear anymore about it but all the fault is in the Palestinian side and Israel has done no wrong? Not convincing.

LovePoppy · 13/10/2025 11:56

Are you very young OP? The news cycle focusing on one event is not new. Off the top of my head - dessert storm, 9/11, second gulf war, Syria, crimea, Ukraine now Gaza. Since the advent of 24 hr news cycle they have always chosen a conflict for long term focus.

Be Thankful we now live in an era you can now get news from different sources if you want different stories.

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 13/10/2025 11:56

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 11:51

There was one a few weeks ago, nobody replied

Ah you just name changed for this one then did you? 😂

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 11:56

SpaceFrogs · 13/10/2025 11:56

Transparent. You don’t want to hear anymore about it but all the fault is in the Palestinian side and Israel has done no wrong? Not convincing.

You must’ve missed the post where I called it a genocide and said I wouldn’t support the creation of Israel if it were to happen tomorrow.

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Grammarnut · 13/10/2025 11:57

I agree with you about the idiots shouting 'to the river to the sea' i.e. kill every Jew possible. I too am angry - Hamas started a war by committing an atrocity and you'd think Israel had done it! And where is the ongoing nightmare of Yemen (same lot as Hamas causing the war - Houthis), the horror and rape-fest of Sudan? Even Ukraine has fallen off the radar. I despair.

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 11:57

LovePoppy · 13/10/2025 11:56

Are you very young OP? The news cycle focusing on one event is not new. Off the top of my head - dessert storm, 9/11, second gulf war, Syria, crimea, Ukraine now Gaza. Since the advent of 24 hr news cycle they have always chosen a conflict for long term focus.

Be Thankful we now live in an era you can now get news from different sources if you want different stories.

No, I’m mid 30s. I remember the Iraq war, Afghanistan war, ISIS, Ukraine… none of them received such sustained high volume coverage. I remember the Stop the War March which even with I think 1 million people? Was sadly not successful.

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Liverpool2025 · 13/10/2025 12:02

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 11:47

Nobody will know the souls existed in Sudan at all. It isn’t a competition but why are not seeking them out if you value life equally?

Actually I teach young souls who have fled from Sudan so am well educated on that also.

The perpetrators of the genocide in Gaza are known but no justice will be served by the US, UK or anyone.

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 12:03

Liverpool2025 · 13/10/2025 12:02

Actually I teach young souls who have fled from Sudan so am well educated on that also.

The perpetrators of the genocide in Gaza are known but no justice will be served by the US, UK or anyone.

No justice was served to members of the IRA either. The world is awash with war criminals and killers who walk free and even retain their leadership for the sake of ‘peace’.

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beAsensible1 · 13/10/2025 12:06

Mealy82 · 13/10/2025 10:29

I find it very odd that there are several areas of the world, such as Nigeria, Sudan and China, where there are mass killings going on. Far more people have been killed in those countries than in Gaza. Apparently in two of those places they unequivocally meet the criteria for genocide.

And yet there is absolutely nothing on the BBC about this. Almost noone knows that these genocides are happening.

There have been marches about sudan, there were marches to end SAR in nigeria , there's been protest outside the embassy of DRC and Ethiopia. Its even been on the news?

You could also write to foreign office but they would respond that they are not arming the RSF, but you can lobby for sanctions against Ethiopia, as far as i'm aware the Nigerian government isn't funding terrorists in Nigeria unless you have different info?

There is a worsening famine in sudan and you can donate here via the world food programme

www.wfp.org/emergencies/sudan-emergency

SwanEater · 13/10/2025 12:07

Israel is involved. That's why we see this never-ending coverage. If it would be two African countries, two Middle-Eastern countries duking it out or China committing some atrocities - we'd get a puny mention somewhere in the middle of BBC page and 99% of population wouldn't give a shiny shit or wouldn't even know about it.

There are various crises in Sudan, Mali, Haiti, Burkina Faso, Myanmar, war in Ukraine is still going on and I'm sure there are more. How many have you heard about and/or care? I googled it. Vaguely heard about Sudan only. Well and Ukraine one is widely-known, obv.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 13/10/2025 12:08

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 10:37

What do you think I’m suggesting if the Gaza news is toned down? Just silence? Of course that means more reporting on other issues. That’s the logical consequence of what I’m saying - I want to hear the NEWS (from around the world) - not JUST endless Gaza

Sure, but you're saying you're bored of hearing about it as if that alone might be a reason for them to stop talking about it.

If you think that the media should be talking more about other stories instead, then by all means, make the case for why you think those other stories are more important than Gaza.

What you don't seem to understand is that the news isn't reported for your entertainment, and they don't need to keep coming up with new stories just to pique your interest.

Liverpool2025 · 13/10/2025 12:13

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 12:03

No justice was served to members of the IRA either. The world is awash with war criminals and killers who walk free and even retain their leadership for the sake of ‘peace’.

Wow, how horrible that you're making excuses for child murderers to not receive justice.

The IRA did not murder 20,000 children over a two year period. They're not in any way similar.

They also didn't murder and take hostage tens of thousands of paramedics, doctors and nurses.

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 12:13

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 13/10/2025 12:08

Sure, but you're saying you're bored of hearing about it as if that alone might be a reason for them to stop talking about it.

If you think that the media should be talking more about other stories instead, then by all means, make the case for why you think those other stories are more important than Gaza.

What you don't seem to understand is that the news isn't reported for your entertainment, and they don't need to keep coming up with new stories just to pique your interest.

What is it reported for then, if just 1 issue is relentlessly covered and even worse atrocities are barely mentioned?

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Amberlynnswashcloth · 13/10/2025 12:16

Its a reminder that news reporting is bias. "Global news" never gives the full picture of what is actually happening around the world. There are always atrocities and injustice that are conveniently ignored for political motives (or lack thereof).

I think its fine for you to have a break from the coverage of Gaza. Its awful what's happening but you can't do anything about it while making your coffee or driving to work and you being depressed all day about world events won't make things better for them.

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 12:25

I usually enjoy following global affairs and am not easily fatigued by something, but honestly to have a break from news about Gaza you would have to not set foot in the outside world or switch your radio on etc - it feels that extreme. If I click on any article about politics, the comments are just ‘BUT WHAT ABOUT GAZA???’ ‘WHY ARE YOU FOCUSSING ON THIS AND NOT ON GENOCIDE???’ Etc

They're absolutely unhinged

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SpottedDeer · 13/10/2025 12:33

didntlikeanyofthesuggestions · 13/10/2025 10:27

Hopefully you'll get the break you need soon. There has been loads of news coverage but weirdly none of it has focused on the real victim which turned out to be you.

Unnecessary. She's not really making herself out to be the victim, she's talking about this conflict compared to loads of others.

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 12:34

SpottedDeer · 13/10/2025 12:33

Unnecessary. She's not really making herself out to be the victim, she's talking about this conflict compared to loads of others.

Oh I totally expected these responses - that the only options in life are to be Gazan, or to be elsewhere but be relentlessly subjected to endless very angry and graphic coverage for years without complaint. It’s part of how black and white the whole issue is to them.

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MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 13/10/2025 12:34

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 12:13

What is it reported for then, if just 1 issue is relentlessly covered and even worse atrocities are barely mentioned?

Well, not least because many people do consider it to be important and they want to be informed about what's going on.

I don't disagree that there should be more coverage of other events alongside the coverage of Gaza e.g. what's going on in Sudan. However, that isn't because I've had enough of hearing about Gaza, which seems to be the crux of your argument.

Barnbrack · 13/10/2025 12:35

AnnaFrith · 13/10/2025 11:30

It's tragic for the innocent victims, especially children, but it's important to remember the responsibility for the devastation of Gaza lies entirely with Hamas.

The people ordering the attacks and deciding how to conduct themselves are responsible for their own actions

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 12:37

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 13/10/2025 12:34

Well, not least because many people do consider it to be important and they want to be informed about what's going on.

I don't disagree that there should be more coverage of other events alongside the coverage of Gaza e.g. what's going on in Sudan. However, that isn't because I've had enough of hearing about Gaza, which seems to be the crux of your argument.

No, it’s chicken and egg. People are as obsessed as they are because of the coverage - because Palestinians and Hamas have been very focussed in social media campaigns, both those showing graphic slaughter but also slightly manipulated videos to cast doubt over everything that isn’t Hamas and their absolutist beliefs.

In a way you’ve given yourself away there. You should have ‘heard enough about Gaza’ through emotional fatigue and a desire for the war to end. It’s like the left have an insatiable appetite for self righteousness and Gaza provides a bottomless well - so in that sense, you’ll never have ‘had enough’ of it.

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Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 12:38

Barnbrack · 13/10/2025 12:35

The people ordering the attacks and deciding how to conduct themselves are responsible for their own actions

So we were the baddies in WW2? And responsible for the mass killing of German citizens, who technically hadn’t touched a hair on our heads?

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Barnbrack · 13/10/2025 12:39

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 12:03

No justice was served to members of the IRA either. The world is awash with war criminals and killers who walk free and even retain their leadership for the sake of ‘peace’.

Nor to the British armed forces who committed war crimes on northern Irish civilians during my own childhood. I had a patient recently who was a soldier in northern Ireland who when he heard my name shed an actual tear over the atrocities in my community that he and his comrades were forced to commit. Poor chap would only have been in his 20s and has yet to recover from what they were ordered to do in the 80s 45 years later.

Barnbrack · 13/10/2025 12:40

Rattanlamp · 13/10/2025 12:38

So we were the baddies in WW2? And responsible for the mass killing of German citizens, who technically hadn’t touched a hair on our heads?

Was Germany levelled and the extermination of all German citizens attempted to now allow a single child to grow to be a potential Nazi? Because yes, if that's how the allies had reacted they would I deed be to blame