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Daughter not soeaky

214 replies

Doglover36 · 08/10/2025 18:41

Granddaughter is 6 months old.. husband kissed her on back of head my daughter has not spoken to us since.. saying that we shouldn't of kissed her child.. anyones thoughts?

OP posts:
TomatoSandwiches · 08/10/2025 20:56

tragichero · 08/10/2025 20:54

That attitude always really concerns me. Could be used to justify all kinds of concerning and potentially even abusive behaviour.

Parents aren't omniscient gods and they don't own their children. Nobody owns anybody else.

It's the parents responsibility to keep their child safe, keeping the baby away from people who knowingly expose her to herpes is being a responsible parent.

LBFseBrom · 08/10/2025 20:57

Shouldn't he of indeed? :-)

CherrieTomaties · 08/10/2025 20:57

Growlybear83 · 08/10/2025 20:51

Yes I saw that. The OP’s husband kissed the baby on the back of the head - even if he had an active cold sore I still don’t see the problem. But even if the daughter is as obsessive about germs as she sounds, to not speak to her parents for this long is just beyond ridiculous.

You don’t see the problem?

He went against and ignored his daughter’s wishes, and crossed a boundary. But you don’t see the problem?

How arrogant.

ThoseThreeBeautifulNights · 08/10/2025 20:57

BananaPeels · 08/10/2025 20:53

Because it is part of bonding. I loved kissing my babies and my mum was my right hand women when I had mine so wouldn’t have thought about stopping her kissing my babies . I honestly couldn’t have done without her given my babies were awful!

but, that said cold sores are different and we would have been very careful of someone had those. My grandmother was kissed as a baby by someone with one and suffered her whole life. That is a very pertinent detail and would expect anyone with the active virus to be very careful.

Edited

It doesn’t have to be active to spread. If you have the virus, you shed small amounts all the time

Growlybear83 · 08/10/2025 20:58

CherrieTomaties · 08/10/2025 20:57

You don’t see the problem?

He went against and ignored his daughter’s wishes, and crossed a boundary. But you don’t see the problem?

How arrogant.

🙄🙄🙄

RubyBirdy · 08/10/2025 20:59

I had bad OCD which peaked when I had my daughter, the worry about RSV and cold sores was crippling. She did get RSV at 10 months old from nursery and it was horrific. Your daughter is over reacting but it may be a sign she’s struggling. It’s also not unfair of her to ask you not to kiss the baby because trust me, you don’t want the baby to get RSV.

WannabeMathematician · 08/10/2025 20:59

Context is key. You do seem to have form for kissing babies without knowing you have a cold sore, judging by your previous posts so I can see why they are pissed.

padronpepper · 08/10/2025 21:00

@NotSmallButFunSize
Maybe the op's daughter has learned from her mother?

oviraptor21 · 08/10/2025 21:01

Why does the OP having a cold sore mean her DH can't kiss the GD? Does all seem a bit OTT. Are you or your DH allowed to cuddle the baby? Such a sad world we live in that little children are missing out on cuddles and kisses, not just from family but in childcare settings too.

TheFiveLakes · 08/10/2025 21:02

realsavagelike · 08/10/2025 20:51

HSV, not hepatitis. Although your point about hepatitis still stands...

Sorry yes - HSV is responsible for almost a quarter of neurological damage occurring in UK infants postnatally but before the agecof two. It can cause brain damage and occasionally death.

TheFiveLakes · 08/10/2025 21:04

oviraptor21 · 08/10/2025 21:01

Why does the OP having a cold sore mean her DH can't kiss the GD? Does all seem a bit OTT. Are you or your DH allowed to cuddle the baby? Such a sad world we live in that little children are missing out on cuddles and kisses, not just from family but in childcare settings too.

The herpes simplex virus is a common cause of neurological damage in children under two - you can easily look it up.

Nextweektoo · 08/10/2025 21:05

Your own dad though? Come on, unless.there is massive back story...

Tangerinenets · 08/10/2025 21:07

Iloveeverycat · 08/10/2025 19:11

Why are parents so weird nowadays.
Don't they realise that germs help with immunity.

Edited

I agree. Totally weird.

Calliopespa · 08/10/2025 21:08

SnugglyJumpersMakeItBetter · 08/10/2025 20:48

Surely if someone's got a cold sore or RSV they're more likely to transfer the virus from touching baby's hands with their hands or sitting up close face-to-face playing/talking/laughing or coughing/sneezing in the vicinity/over surfaces baby will touch, than they are by kissing the back of baby's head? I'm not a doctor, but I'm thinking it's inhalation of droplets or ingestion that's the risk. Viruses can't be absorbed through the skin can they?!

I think cold sores are spread by contact not droplets. It differs depending on the virus.

nc43214321 · 08/10/2025 21:08

If she asked you prior to not kiss the baby then you shouldn't have and an apology is due, sure it wasn’t done intentionally.

TheFiveLakes · 08/10/2025 21:08

Nextweektoo · 08/10/2025 21:05

Your own dad though? Come on, unless.there is massive back story...

What do you mean? Do you think people can't pass herpes (or RSV, but in this case we know the grandmother has the herpes virus, so grandad probably has too) on to their grandchildren?

CharlieEffie · 08/10/2025 21:09

Iloveeverycat · 08/10/2025 19:11

Why are parents so weird nowadays.
Don't they realise that germs help with immunity.

Edited

No we realise that RSV can and does kill babies

Calliopespa · 08/10/2025 21:10

TheFiveLakes · 08/10/2025 21:02

Sorry yes - HSV is responsible for almost a quarter of neurological damage occurring in UK infants postnatally but before the agecof two. It can cause brain damage and occasionally death.

Also, once you have the virus, you have it for life and it crops up with a big angry cold sore every time you are under pressure - plenty of brides wake up with an unsightly one on their wedding day!

I think the DD is not handling her annoyance the right way, but I can understand why she doesn't want the baby exposed.

Sophiablue95 · 08/10/2025 21:10

Well I think it depends on the baby. Ds1 rarely ever gets ill and was the same as a baby.

Ds2 is much more sensitive and has just came out of hospital after needing multiple nebulisers for yet another chest infection and tonsillitis.

I was a lot more relaxed with ds1 but almost every time I have taken ds2 to a playgroup or in close contact with someone with a cold, he’s ended up in a&e with tonsillitis a few days later (he develops a non blanching rash with it so sent straight to A&E). He also had rsv as a baby where he went limp and was blue lighted in an ambulance to hospital.

You say you wash hands with colds but if your dh has had one I can understand why she is pissed off. Washing hands isn’t going to make any difference to a cold if you’re kissing the babies head.

Tangerinenets · 08/10/2025 21:11

Anyahyacinth · 08/10/2025 19:32

Not sure if this comment is bait but this isn’t true and current NHS guidance is what the parents are requesting BECAUSE of an under developed immune system in a young baby

Kissing on the BACK of the head won’t pass germs onto the baby. On the lips I get but the back of the head? Totally ridiculous.

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/10/2025 21:12

Is your husband the baby’s grandfather?

Pistachiocake · 08/10/2025 21:13

BedlingtonFloof · 08/10/2025 19:10

I do agree, but kissing a baby is the kind of thing people sometimes do without thinking so he might not have been intentionally ignoring her wishes, more just being thoughtless.

Yes, and I asked my GP who said that a child in nursery/going round playgroups, which most babies are by 6 months, is not really at risk from a relative kissing them (assuming all the things other posters have already mentioned), but to avoid kissing a young baby on the face. This was a few years ago, so feel free to check, but I did ask because of the cold sore incident. Obviously that was someone kissing a newborn on the face.

QuickPeachPoet · 08/10/2025 21:14

TomatoSandwiches · 08/10/2025 20:56

It's the parents responsibility to keep their child safe, keeping the baby away from people who knowingly expose her to herpes is being a responsible parent.

You frequently get herpes on the back of your head do you?

Dymaxion · 08/10/2025 21:15

If say 70% of the adult population has HSV-1 , does that mean that 70% of the population shouldn't have children, in case they pass it to their offspring ?

Calliopespa · 08/10/2025 21:16

Tangerinenets · 08/10/2025 21:11

Kissing on the BACK of the head won’t pass germs onto the baby. On the lips I get but the back of the head? Totally ridiculous.

Back of the head is safer but I can still understand the concern if there are cold sores in the family.

I don't agree with the DD giving the silent treatment. She'd be better to send op some information about it and explain why she is upset; instead we all are. It sounds to me as though she is struggling with anxiety and losing her rag a bit.

Give her an apology op and tell her you've done some research and understand the risks now. There are risks.

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