To find it shocking how brazen people are with their hatred of refugees?

[GreenFairy93]

Another day, another Facebook post calling for the army to be bought in to stop the boats. Another comment section full of people shouting "sink the boats!" "Use as much force as necessary to stop them!"

There are women and children on these boats and people are brazenly calling for force to be used against them and for them to be sunk, with pictures of their faces next to their comments. Not an ounce of shame. And there's hundreds of them.

I just find it absolutely abhorrent and honestly, really upsetting that so many people have dehumanised asylum seekers to the point they have absolutely no compassion in their hearts to the point they are publicly calling for harm to come to families fleeing war.

AIBU to be shocked that people think this is ok now?

We aren’t.

And each year, fewer babies are born in the uk, and people die.

It’s FINE. But the blame on the collapse of the NHS, poor schools, etc, where it should be put, not on the very small number of migrants who come each year.

Stop reading the Daily Hate Mail or the Sun or the Telepgraph and stop following all the Farrage-ys. They’re lying. I promise - they are lying to you.

No one expects us to. We take fewer refugees than many other countries. It's a global situation.

I started adult life as an economic migrant and some of my best friends are males. Neither condition merits a death penalty

Why not?

@Nowherefast4
"106,000 people came to the UK as of March 2025 seeking asylum. That's not half the world."

Yes and that figure was indeed to March this year. You're implying that this is the total amount since records began. The figure was 108,138 in 2024, 84,000 in 2023 and 89,398 in 2022 and so on. The figures are increasing by roughly 17% each year and the vast majority of those claming asylum are single men.

Glad we could find some common ground ☺️

You want me to believe you, when you describe the numbers coming in as ‘very small’? No one can take you seriously when you say such obviously untrue things.

You make no comment on the very different social and cultural values these new arrivals hold? Is that fine too? How are those differences to be resolved? Is it working well at the moment, do you think, looking at the social unrest going on?

Not one pro poster ever will say what they find an acceptable number of arrivals.

Unlimited immigration would result in camps and slums - we cannot build millions of new homes every year. There is not enough low-level “male acceptable” work, they are just not going to be care workers (sub-Saharan men excepted - they work in care). The womenfolk have poor language skills and are not expected to work (or do much) outside the domestic sphere - they are net users. Plus daughters are not “moving on up” (unlike Indian/Chinese background immigrants). They are encouraged (made) to marry men from “home” (money changes hands) and the cycle of first-generation immigrants continues.

I suppose this is all highly acceptable to some people. But wittering that we should embrace all these NHS workers is nuts.

People aren’t having fewer babies because migrants are stealing jobs.

It’s a modern change - women don’t feel tied to homemaking; they have more ambition than being a mother of many; young people I know are less keen because of climate change.

I live in London and primary schools are closing.

I think that women are now having 1.4 babies instead of 2.4? I actually haven’t checked that exactly so I might be wrong. I think we need to be having 2.1 to maintain a consistent population (again - need to check myself).

Also, some countries do need migrants to come because they have an ageing population and no one to take care of them. See: Italy.

If not the cause, they are a definite contributor. The billions which are spent on asylum claims, legal assistance, accommodation, subsistence and then ongoing benefits, could be spent on those already here and in need, or on the NHS, education, infrastructure or thousands of other things.

So British people, and British culture as it now stands, will cease to exist? Strange that you don’t see that as something to preserve, or defend.

Ooh maybe you haven't heard: People are only driven to support inhuman racist violence because they're "left behind" and "downtrodden" and "have no power or status in society".

That must be why business owners are doing it.

There is pretty much a manual that lets people know the boxes to tick which a govenment funded charity is distributing. It doesn't say to game the system but it does outline what are legitimate reasons for asylum claims and thereby gives the "good" answers away.

Come from a country where it's illegal to be gay - say you're gay, and you're in
Come from a country where religious persecution exists - say you're religious.
Come from a country where political persecution exists - say you're a rebel.
Come from a country where there's not much persecution - drop your papers in the channel and say you're from a different country.
Can't find any good reasons - say you're 14 and big for your age

Don't get me wrong. I understand why economic migrants might game the system to qualify as asylum seekers.

But it means I massively distrust the 65% figure that you quote as being a genuine indicator of the true breakdown of asylum seekers (who were presumably safe in France) and the economic migrants.

They seemingly think people will still support their businesses. I certainly wouldn't and a lot of people I know wouldn't either.

Do you think more people drawing on services, who have never contributed to those services and are not likely to but arrive and are given free access, makes the situation better for anybody at all (other than those in the flourishing immigration business)?

If mass migration was an actual thing then yes but it’s not. The poverty you feel, the discomfort you feel is as a result of government and economic policy. Should you wish to vote for reform and further make your life miserable then go for it. Brexit didn’t really achieve anything did it ?

Migrants will go elsewhere, so will refugees. Higher tax payers as well as economic migrants won’t have issues moving to greener pastures. I mean it’s already happening.

You don’t think 106,000 people is small? The uk population right now is 69 MILLION. That’s 0.15%.

The social unrest I see is from the Tommy Robinson brigade, not people from other countries. I live in London. I am surrounded by people from other cultures.

The only yucky people in my city I see are the louts who sing “get your tits out for the lads” when on racist marches.

Got it in one.
Most people have every sympathy for people fleeing war or persecution, as can be seen by how the Ukrainians were welcomed to Britain. Economic migrants who come through the correct channels and have skills which are needed in Britain are generally welcomed.
People who come in illegally on boats because they fancy life in Britain, not the same.

Over 1000 men arrived here yesterday. Where would you like to put them, and how do you propose to support them without taking from people already here, many of whom are already poor?

Not if British culture can be defined by the likes that attended the tommy march.

What is British culture?

Here's a statistic for you: 40% of those arrested in the summer 2024 riots had previous convictions for domestic violence.

It's not so much about protecting women and girls from violence, as making sure they can corner the market.

So you admit that sone are economic migrants, lying to come and take a bit of our cookie?

Who here has advocated for UNLIMITED migration? Nobody!

If you wanted to move to France or Australia, you probably couldn’t without a bunch of loopholes to jump through.

Of course we can’t just free flow all over the world.

What we’re saying is, these are desperate people COMING OVER ON BOATS and they should be treated like human beings and they are not the problem with this country.

Also, can everyone stop with xenophobia and talking about “their values”, as if this country isn’t full of (white) misogyny and (white) hatred? Humans are humans.

Most of those deliveroo jobs didn’t exist until they were invented to allow somebody to profit from illegal immigrants.

And - I suppose the follow on question is, given these people have arrived illegally and so broken the law - are they allowed to just wander freely around the country (which is, I believe, what is happening).

I don’t think I’d be too thrilled either to find a local hotel had 200 recently arrived 18-30 year old blokes with no income and nothing to do living in it.