To find it shocking how brazen people are with their hatred of refugees?

[GreenFairy93]

Another day, another Facebook post calling for the army to be bought in to stop the boats. Another comment section full of people shouting "sink the boats!" "Use as much force as necessary to stop them!"

There are women and children on these boats and people are brazenly calling for force to be used against them and for them to be sunk, with pictures of their faces next to their comments. Not an ounce of shame. And there's hundreds of them.

I just find it absolutely abhorrent and honestly, really upsetting that so many people have dehumanised asylum seekers to the point they have absolutely no compassion in their hearts to the point they are publicly calling for harm to come to families fleeing war.

AIBU to be shocked that people think this is ok now?

Ditto the pro-Hamas, anti-capitalist, JSO, and other crusty protesters. It’s pretty obvious when somebody can sit in the road for a week that they aren’t gainfully employed. I guess you support those sort of spongers though, because they’re the naice people.

When was this? The 00s!

Well no, actually.

I don't know that people calling for violence and military force against a group of people to ensure they drown rather than reach a safe place, don't hate the people they are condoning this treatment towards.

If true, that would be utterly batshit. And I hate to see what treatment they reserve for people they actually do hate.

But why do you get to decide that our cookie hoarders have to give their cookies to newly arrived strangers we know nothing about?

They are not obliged to seek asylum in the first safe country they come to.

Perhaps instead of yawning you could look at some facts.

So it’s a class issue then? Not a migrant issue clearly.

Also the risk of femicide and sexual assault claim gets bandied about a lot. You’re statistically more likely to be harmed by your brother/son. Having said that, if someone on a refugee or visa status commits a serious crime and convicted in our courts and the consequence of that is deportation then I feel that is fair.

Using that analogy, it’s the people with plenty of cookies pretending not to understand why the man with a few crumbs doesn’t want to share with a total stranger when he has a family to feed with those crumbs.

And mocking and insulting him, hoping that he’ll eventually shut up and hand over his crumbs.

Yup.

It’s very easy to be generous when one has a comfortable and safe existence.

My understanding is that unless the migrants have key skills or are professionals (and I believe most don’t), they are a net drain on the economy.

What if neither the hoarder nor the man with crumbs really wants to give any to the stranger? Why isn't that reasonable, given that there are plenty of cookie hoarders not only in the stranger’s home country, but also in the several safe countries they've passed through on the way to our cookies?

The upper and middle classes are shielded from the negative consequences because of their wealth, that’s part of it. Added to which the immigrants they’re most likely to see in their daily lives are those equally well off, with good qualifications and jobs like themselves.

I wonder what these people would think if a few thousand refugees were housed in their leafy middle class suburb… I wonder how long their supposed tolerance and kindness would last once they were forced to live what they’re demanding others must.

Yes, that may be international law. But people don’t see that as reasonable.

I mean as I said, I’d rather have the uber eat drivers who are actually working and getting the economy going rather than those idiots on the hate marches. I’m willing to bet a very large cohort of those men on the march form the alarming statistic of being unemployed through choice.

Of course. I don’t disagree with you there.

With respect OP the overwhelming majority of asylum seekers arriving on our shores are single young men, not women and children. They are definitely not fleeing war zones but have chosen of their own volition to leave France and come to the UK. People are unnerved about thousands of completely unchecked men arriving here, which is perfectly understandable. Additionally, we are a small island where housing and resources are already stretched especially for those at the sharp end of society.

I find it more shocking that people twist people's rational fears and worries about individuals forcing themselves into this country as hatred.

It is entirely rational to fear those who have forced their way into your house and are insisting they stay there whether you want them to or not. They then insist that you feed them and tell you to shut up when you suggest they leave.

But are the refugees the cause of your poverty ?

Exactly this.

People talk about an asylum ‘crisis’ like the sky is falling, but the numbers don’t back it up. In March 2025, 106,000 people were in asylum support, down from 124,000 less than two years ago. Most are in ordinary housing across the country. Some towns feel pressure, but that is because austerity has starved local councils of resources, not because refugees are flooding in. The real crisis is underfunded services, not people seeking safety.

You’re describing abusive husbands, partners, sons and brothers who are statistically more likely to exactly what you have described.

Get off your soap box.
Is free hotel accommodation not good enough for you?

@BluntPlumHam Yes, they are the reason for increasing poverty. When you divide an ever decreasing pie amongst more people then people get less.

Half the world could claim asylum in the UK if they could get here.

We cannot take half the world.

They’re undeniably adding to it!

They don’t want to comprehend this.