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To find it shocking how brazen people are with their hatred of refugees?

675 replies

GreenFairy93 · 20/09/2025 16:11

Another day, another Facebook post calling for the army to be bought in to stop the boats. Another comment section full of people shouting "sink the boats!" "Use as much force as necessary to stop them!"

There are women and children on these boats and people are brazenly calling for force to be used against them and for them to be sunk, with pictures of their faces next to their comments. Not an ounce of shame. And there's hundreds of them.

I just find it absolutely abhorrent and honestly, really upsetting that so many people have dehumanised asylum seekers to the point they have absolutely no compassion in their hearts to the point they are publicly calling for harm to come to families fleeing war.

AIBU to be shocked that people think this is ok now?

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Nowherefast4 · 20/09/2025 18:15

user1471538275 · 20/09/2025 18:13

@BluntPlumHam Yes, they are the reason for increasing poverty. When you divide an ever decreasing pie amongst more people then people get less.

Half the world could claim asylum in the UK if they could get here.

We cannot take half the world.

106,000 people came to the UK as of March 2025 seeking asylum. That's not half the world.

MyDeftHedgehog · 20/09/2025 18:16

Pull the plug on the benefits and the hotels, pull the tax payer funded human rights lawyers, and the boatfuls of young men of fighting age will stop coming

smallpinecone · 20/09/2025 18:16

BluntPlumHam · 20/09/2025 18:14

They don’t want to comprehend this.

It’s is a staggering number of people.

It’s not possible to accommodate or assimilate so many people. It just isn’t.

MaturingCheeseball · 20/09/2025 18:16

I read that 300 million people have expressed an interest in coming to the UK. Is that acceptable if that number did decide to mobilise?

Much of Europe has effectively closed their borders. Are the Danes dreadfully bad people for saying they’re full?

ginasevern · 20/09/2025 18:18

BluntPlumHam · 20/09/2025 18:11

But are the refugees the cause of your poverty ?

But would you like hundreds of unchecked men (regardless of race or colour) to move into an HMO or similar in your street? Quite frankly anyone who claims they'd welcome them with open arms is being, at best, disingenuous.

smallpinecone · 20/09/2025 18:19

Nowherefast4 · 20/09/2025 18:15

106,000 people came to the UK as of March 2025 seeking asylum. That's not half the world.

Where are they to be housed, educated, their medical issues attended to? This is a massive strain on the housing crisis, the transport system, the NHS, the education system, the environment. From a purely financial point of view, it’s madness.

And that’s before addressing the social issues, which are enormous, and not easily solved. It’s impossible to assimilate such large numbers of people.

BluntPlumHam · 20/09/2025 18:19

user1471538275 · 20/09/2025 18:13

@BluntPlumHam Yes, they are the reason for increasing poverty. When you divide an ever decreasing pie amongst more people then people get less.

Half the world could claim asylum in the UK if they could get here.

We cannot take half the world.

Nope I’m sorry, statistics don’t back your claims. Millions of brits are economically inactive.

I fail to see how a few migrants in your area are preventing you from seeking work or bettering your circumstances.

before you starts blaming underfunded services that is the fault of governments.

Nowherefast4 · 20/09/2025 18:19

smallpinecone · 20/09/2025 18:16

It’s is a staggering number of people.

It’s not possible to accommodate or assimilate so many people. It just isn’t.

It's not a staggering number of people. It's a decrease. Public perception has somehow whipped people into this rabid frenzy but the people seeking asylum aren't the problem. Is it just me that believes this?

smallpinecone · 20/09/2025 18:20

MaturingCheeseball · 20/09/2025 18:16

I read that 300 million people have expressed an interest in coming to the UK. Is that acceptable if that number did decide to mobilise?

Much of Europe has effectively closed their borders. Are the Danes dreadfully bad people for saying they’re full?

And it’s a left-wing party doing it.

It’s perfect possible to make the case for a sensible immigration policy from a left-wing perspective. Not all opposing mass migration are ‘far right’ radicals.

Flo78 · 20/09/2025 18:20

usernamealreadytaken · 20/09/2025 17:30

Of course they are taking somebody else’s cookie; they don't arrive here with their own cookies to support themselves.

Okay so you’re a human person right? And let’s say you can’t work in your country so you’re hungry, you can’t get healthcare, there’s no real hope. But there are opportunities somewhere else. You have to risk your life to get there, but it’s hopeless where you are. Many around you won’t. But you think: I can’t stay this way. I have to try. This is my one life.

So you risk your life to get somewhere. You are met with angry racists at every turn. You just want to work and create a better life for your own children.

Plus where I live, it ain’t white British people who want to be deliveroo drivers or cleaners or even builders or care workers. When immigration is “cracked down on”, the white British aren’t clambering for those jobs and those jobs aren’t filled.

They’re not stealing YOUR cookie, PP. They’re earning the cookie you’re not interested in doing the hard and often unpleasant labour to get.

BluntPlumHam · 20/09/2025 18:20

smallpinecone · 20/09/2025 18:19

Where are they to be housed, educated, their medical issues attended to? This is a massive strain on the housing crisis, the transport system, the NHS, the education system, the environment. From a purely financial point of view, it’s madness.

And that’s before addressing the social issues, which are enormous, and not easily solved. It’s impossible to assimilate such large numbers of people.

Your underfunded services will continue to be decimated irrespective of whether refugees come or not. Especially given people are desperate to vote for Farage and selling the NHS off is his number one priority.

CrazyAboutFurBabies · 20/09/2025 18:21

Serious question to all in favour of illegal migrants...

Where is the line drawn? When does it end?

We cannot just let every single one of them in and continue to let them in with no plan or rules… we’re not a country with unlimited space and unlimited money?

Not to mention these illegal migrants are coming here from countries with values that absolutely do not align with ours. For examples, they think women are to be slaves to men, voice and no choice.

So how can they integrate alongside us?

smallpinecone · 20/09/2025 18:22

Nowherefast4 · 20/09/2025 18:19

It's not a staggering number of people. It's a decrease. Public perception has somehow whipped people into this rabid frenzy but the people seeking asylum aren't the problem. Is it just me that believes this?

We’d need to be building a city the size of Liverpool every year to accommodate them. It’s not sustainable. Is there an end point, in your mind? Where do you see this ending? How many is too many?

People don’t need to be ‘whipped up’ into a rabid frenzy, as you put it. People can use their own eyes and ears. They can see the problems themselves.

BluntPlumHam · 20/09/2025 18:23

smallpinecone · 20/09/2025 18:14

They’re undeniably adding to it!

How is a refugee making you poorer?

CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · 20/09/2025 18:24

BeHappySloth · 20/09/2025 16:14

No, but I'm afraid this thread will attract racist posters like a honeypot attracts bees. They will all pile on with their usual racist tropes.

Have your bingo cards at the ready.

[X] Racist
[X] Tropes

Guess that's two ticked on the card

😂

I am kind of bored of these repeat threads though - not even decent prizes

LittleYellowQueen · 20/09/2025 18:24

CrazyAboutFurBabies · 20/09/2025 18:21

Serious question to all in favour of illegal migrants...

Where is the line drawn? When does it end?

We cannot just let every single one of them in and continue to let them in with no plan or rules… we’re not a country with unlimited space and unlimited money?

Not to mention these illegal migrants are coming here from countries with values that absolutely do not align with ours. For examples, they think women are to be slaves to men, voice and no choice.

So how can they integrate alongside us?

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Happy to swap them, 1 in 1 out, for those people that attended the tommy robinson march.

There's plenty of white British men who have prehistoric views towards women too.

BluntPlumHam · 20/09/2025 18:24

CrazyAboutFurBabies · 20/09/2025 18:21

Serious question to all in favour of illegal migrants...

Where is the line drawn? When does it end?

We cannot just let every single one of them in and continue to let them in with no plan or rules… we’re not a country with unlimited space and unlimited money?

Not to mention these illegal migrants are coming here from countries with values that absolutely do not align with ours. For examples, they think women are to be slaves to men, voice and no choice.

So how can they integrate alongside us?

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None of what you said is remotely true so it isn’t a concern.

smallpinecone · 20/09/2025 18:26

BluntPlumHam · 20/09/2025 18:20

Your underfunded services will continue to be decimated irrespective of whether refugees come or not. Especially given people are desperate to vote for Farage and selling the NHS off is his number one priority.

The public have wanted an end to mass immigration for over twenty years. No one has listened.

The Tories won’t change direction. Labour won’t change direction. Who else is left but Reform?

What other democratic means do people have left to express their concerns and have them taken seriously?

Flo78 · 20/09/2025 18:26

smallpinecone · 20/09/2025 18:22

We’d need to be building a city the size of Liverpool every year to accommodate them. It’s not sustainable. Is there an end point, in your mind? Where do you see this ending? How many is too many?

People don’t need to be ‘whipped up’ into a rabid frenzy, as you put it. People can use their own eyes and ears. They can see the problems themselves.

People do die, you know. It’s not an overflowing extra 106,000 people every year. There’s a declining birth rate in the UK and about 650,000 people die.

So 650,000 people die here each year, and fewer babies are born year on year. It was a record low birth rate in 2024.

106,000 people coming isn’t the crisis that your Farrage-esq people want you to think it is.

Flo78 · 20/09/2025 18:27

LittleYellowQueen · 20/09/2025 18:24

Happy to swap them, 1 in 1 out, for those people that attended the tommy robinson march.

There's plenty of white British men who have prehistoric views towards women too.

Yeah got to agree with that. Bye bye disgusting Tommy Robinson style racists! Welcome, hard working people who want to have a better life.

smallpinecone · 20/09/2025 18:28

BluntPlumHam · 20/09/2025 18:23

How is a refugee making you poorer?

We have finite resources - of everything.

What makes you think we can keep adding people ad infenitum without the systems collapsing?

BreakingBroken · 20/09/2025 18:29

Why are you not surprised? It’s constantly in the news and many countries are expressing similar frustrations. Budget crunches, decreased services and homelessness. Unchecked immigrants are unwanted.

smallpinecone · 20/09/2025 18:29

Flo78 · 20/09/2025 18:26

People do die, you know. It’s not an overflowing extra 106,000 people every year. There’s a declining birth rate in the UK and about 650,000 people die.

So 650,000 people die here each year, and fewer babies are born year on year. It was a record low birth rate in 2024.

106,000 people coming isn’t the crisis that your Farrage-esq people want you to think it is.

So the answer to the UK’s declining population is to bring in large numbers of immigrants. And that’s a good thing, as opposed to making it easier for British people to have families and children of their own?

CrazyAboutFurBabies · 20/09/2025 18:29

BluntPlumHam · 20/09/2025 18:24

None of what you said is remotely true so it isn’t a concern.

Sorry, what have I said that’s incorrect?

Notabikerchick · 20/09/2025 18:30

There, you’ve signalled your wonderful virtue. Happy now?