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I will be spending Christmas alone and my children do not care

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Brazien · 15/09/2025 23:34

Hello,

I have 3 adult children, my eldest DD is 31, she is married and has a gorgeous little boy who is 11 months old. They spent last Christmas with me and DD already made it clear they would be doing one Christmas with us and another with her husbands family which is obviously totally fine and understandable. My next child is my DS who is 27 and then my youngest DS who is 25.

I would say I generally have a very positive relationship with all of my children, we talk relatively frequently and haven’t until now had a large falling out, they haven’t ever raised any issues with me in terms of our relationship and have historically initiated and planned visits. I am divorced and have been for many years, I have no close relatives as both of my parents have passed away and my only brother lives in Australia.

I absolutely love hosting Christmas, it is the highlight of my year. When my children’s father and I divorced we actually agreed he would get Boxing Day and New Years Eve (our children were still small when I got divorced) in exchange for me getting Christmas as it matters so much to me. I have hosted Christmas every year since I got married at 23, I never complain about hosting or resent doing this, like I said it’s the highlight of my year. As my children have grown it has of course meant some years I’ve had all of them home and others just one but never have they left me alone for Christmas and I’d actually say they have instead made quite a bit of effort between themselves to ensure someone is always around to spend Christmas with me.

Tonight I was added to a group text message chat, it included myself, both of my DS and their respective partners. DS1 has been with his girlfriend for about a year and a half, DS2 has been with his boyfriend for a year. My eldest son then sent a message, I’ll paraphrase but it effectively said that due to my attitude and opinions in regards to his girlfriend he will not be spending Christmas with me this year as he would like to spend it with her and refuses to expose her to my “inflammatory” opinions. He said he his brother and their partners have all booked to go skiing/snowboarding instead. They then all left the group message chat before I was able to reply.

First of all, this is not a way in which my son would ever normally speak to me, it was very defensive and accusatory in tone. Second of all, the opinions he is referring to are from a conversation I had with him following a large family get together for Easter. She is 24, French and seems to have an extremely elevated ego and level of confidence that borders on arrogance. I know she has a poor relationship with her own father (her mother has passed) but he none the less funds her life which consists entirely of expensive pastimes (snowboarding, tennis, concerts) and seemingly getting drunk, using drugs and partying.

At Easter she mentioned politics, which isn’t something I’d be keen to talk about over a family meal normally but my DS said that if we can’t have a friendly debate then we seal ourselves into an echo chamber of our own beliefs. She was totally unwilling to hear me out, and kept citing her multilingual abilities, degree and “travels” as reason she clearly knew much better than I, about politics, in Britain, a country she has only lived in for about 2 years. I shut the conversation down and said this is clearly unproductive. I then told my son afterwards that I had found her attitude to be filled with arrogance. She has also blank out refused to attend my nephews wedding as it was in a church and my DD told me that soon after she gave birth she said to her “if you ever want to play tennis or go to Pilates I will go with you; I’m sure you’re dying to shed the baby weight”. DD found this quite upsetting at the time but DS refused to call her out for it.

In terms of Christmas, both of my DS had said they would be spending this year with me, DS1 did not spend last year with me but DS2 did. I was looking forward to this and despite my dislikes of his girlfriend’s attitude, I made it clear she was also invited, as was DS2s boyfriend.

I called DS1 after the message in the group message chat and explained that I had never meant to cause offence to his girlfriend or to him for that matter and only ever shared opinions as she has always seemed so keen to be forthcoming with her own. I told him that I would be spending Christmas alone and I found that very upsetting and asked him to reconsider, I also offered to cover any costs associated with rescheduling their trip. He told me quite plainly it is not his problem that I would be alone and that he felt like I did not approve of his girlfriend and would never approve of him dating someone “intelligent, gorgeous and cultured” as it would make me “insecure”. Again this is never a way he has spoken to me before. He then hung up.

I then called DS2 who said that he was sorry I would be alone but he feels they’ve given me enough time to make other arrangements and that he feels that his brother is right that I clearly don’t like his girlfriend and he wants to show a stand of support to his brother and his girlfriend who he said he thinks is brilliant. He claimed I only don’t like her as she doesn’t conform to my expectations of a polite “basic” girl who just wants to get married and go on family holidays every year.

While I would say I don’t massively like her, I’m an adult and totally capable of being perfectly civil towards her. More so the reasons I don’t like her have nothing to do with her beliefs but her sheer arrogance, ego and reckless lifestyle, funded entirely by her father.

AIBU to be quite upset by this and to believe this is most likely coming from his girlfriend? How should I approach this going forward?

OP posts:
MumChp · 15/09/2025 23:39

I don't think you sound perfectly civil...

lnks · 15/09/2025 23:39

The fact that your post in no way acknowledges that you are at least partly to blame for this situation says everything.

NeverKnowinglyUnderstated · 15/09/2025 23:40

What were you thinking???? 😮

IkeaKallax · 15/09/2025 23:43

Very simply, you are being difficult and hard work. They want to be with their partners, either make it appealing for them to spend time with you or wave them off cheerfully to go and do something else. They are no longer children, you can't control them and what you want doesn't have the level of importance you'd like it to have. It's irrelevant that you like hosting Christmas if they don't want to be hosted in that way.

Dillydollydingdong · 15/09/2025 23:44

There's no point taking it any further. Neither you nor the girlfriend would enjoy Christmas Day if you spend it together. Isn't there anything else you can do instead? Maybe find out if there's anything happening on Christmas day that could use your help? Isn't anyone cooking meals for the homeless? Would the local church, the Samaritans or the WI be able to use a helping hand?

Brazien · 15/09/2025 23:44

lnks · 15/09/2025 23:39

The fact that your post in no way acknowledges that you are at least partly to blame for this situation says everything.

No you are right, I probably should have kept my mouth shut on my opinions in regards to his girlfriend but at the time I was incredibly angered by her attitude and as she had been so forthcoming with her own opinions, I took a chance. Upon reflection that was rather shortsighted of me.

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Pincey77 · 15/09/2025 23:45

There's always 3 sides to a story - yours, theirs, and the truth. Maybe the girlfriend is a bit of a twat, but it's so obvious you don't like her and judge her for her lifestyle choices, and regardless of her behaviour that was never going to go down well with your son. The best way forward is to apologise sincerely (no "sorry but...'s," just a proper apology), wish them well on their skiing trip, and make other plans for yourself this year. Do not guilt trip any of them about you being alone at Christmas, that's not their fault and even if there was no falling out, they are absolutely entitled to make their own traditions with their partners or friends if they want to.

PurpleChrayn · 15/09/2025 23:46

Oh lawd.

Carzycat · 15/09/2025 23:48

If you don’t have anyone to spend Christmaswith, who came to your large family gathering at Easter?

Halfy · 15/09/2025 23:48

If hosting Christmas (which I love) is the highlight of your year, then you need to carve out another life for yourself. This is unhealthy

FancyCatSlave · 15/09/2025 23:48

I think some alone time over Christmas to reflect on your behaviour sounds like a very good idea!

Regardless of anything else, insisting on hosting every Christmas is tiresome
for everyone. I am sure your DD or DS’s want to host their own bloody Christmas at some point, especially with their own kids. Your behaviour around your DS girlfriend sounds insufferable. Yes the girlfriend is probably is an enormous twat, but you sound suffocating. They won’t have done this lightly.

Christmas is not all about you.

Brazien · 15/09/2025 23:49

Carzycat · 15/09/2025 23:48

If you don’t have anyone to spend Christmaswith, who came to your large family gathering at Easter?

All 3 of my children and their partners, my brother, his wife and their 2 children were over from Australia and my friends who live in Canada now were also over.

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BourgeoisBabe · 15/09/2025 23:49

Have you imagined your children will spend Christmas with you for the rest of your life? You need to sort your own plans fur Christmas in my view.

JellyBeanSpring25 · 15/09/2025 23:50

Book yourself a fabulous holiday over Christmas.

In the new year, start building bridges. You say you are all adults but you are THE adult here. Acknowledge you shut down the girlfriend and apologise. Otherwise, you will be alone next Christmas. This is salvageable - but you need to put some work in.

Loulouboho · 15/09/2025 23:55

I don’t disagree with others about the need to reflect and maybe do something for you this year but I do think it was an unkind way to tell you. If you have genuinely apologised then I think as well best everyone moves on. But I think this Christmas feels like it would be weird now. Best to do something else

Anyahyacinth · 16/09/2025 00:01

It all sounds awfully hurtful. None of us are perfect. They are going to have good Christmas’ so this is your challenge start planning something good..host or volunteer or take a trip away and create a happy Christmas memory.

GoldMerchant · 16/09/2025 00:02

You don't like his girlfriend - which I think is probably clear to everyone in the family. I can see why your DS1 doesn't want to spend Xmas adjudicating arguments.

Reading between the lines, I wonder if - from your DSs' perspective - you haven't always gotten along so well, and that they sometimes find you difficult? The row at Easter reads a bit more like straw that broke the camels back, rather than a one off, unusual falling out.

I think you have to let Christmas go. Could you book a flight to see your brother in Australia?

Deebee90 · 16/09/2025 00:03

Sadly with your opinions you’ve pushed your children away. I don’t see this repairing either. I think you need to make alternative plans either a meal or book in a hotel etc .

NameinVane · 16/09/2025 00:04

I was a bit of a twat when I first met my in-laws. I was in my mid 20s and had lots of opinions that they definitely wouldn’t have agreed with but I was quite strident about and used to voice with the certainty of youth at the dinner table. Luckily they realised their son loved me and that’s what mattered so they were kind, polite and generous with the food and wine. We get on great now.

I would do what JellyBeanSpring25 has suggested; completely apologise, do your own thing this year without guilt tripping anyone and reset things. I think this stage of life must be hard to adjust to as your children transition to being proper grown ups with their own families. Good luck OP.

Katflapkit · 16/09/2025 00:06

Are you really going to be alone? Understandably you're hurt but put this to one side now and give yourself something to look forward to. Book a trip to Australia to see your brother and his family. It will be so different from a UK Christmas that you won't feel so sad. Or what about Canada to see your friends?

outerspacepotato · 16/09/2025 00:08

You can't stand your son's gf and you made it so obvious your other son supports his bro.

FAFO. He's a grown man and you're not his primary relationship anymore.

Livelovebehappy · 16/09/2025 00:08

Look at alternatives OP. At least you’ve had good notice. Ask around your friends if any are going to be alone, and if so, book a nice meal out on Xmas day. Doing something different might change your mindset on future Christmas’s.

Arregaithel · 16/09/2025 00:12

Oh dear @Brazien classic short termism.

You should really learn that if you are antagonistic to your children's partners, you will never win.

Interesting that you mention DS1's girl is foreign "a country she has only lived in for about 2 years" Are you therefore implying that negates her opinion on British politics?

And to further compound it you said " I then told my son afterwards that I had found her attitude to be filled with arrogance" I think you could reflect on who was being arrogant tbh.

Unless you are prepared to eat humble pie, I don't foresee you being able to repair the relationship to the extent you would like.

Check yourself, a bit of introspection will help you enormously.

I'm sure your daughter will see you alright for Christmas, unless you've offended her too?

Stompythedinosaur · 16/09/2025 00:13

outerspacepotato · 16/09/2025 00:08

You can't stand your son's gf and you made it so obvious your other son supports his bro.

FAFO. He's a grown man and you're not his primary relationship anymore.

I think this puts it perfectly.

You can still have a nice Christmas. Are there any friends you can get together with?

MyDeftDuck · 16/09/2025 00:14

It’s just another day…….go volunteer at a homeless shelter or better still have open house for anyone in your neighbourhood who is at a loose end or is feeling lonely………Christmas sorted 🎄🍗🍤🍪🍷🥂🍺🍾

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