My son has gone on the march

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Hi, have been on here years but only lurk, don’t post. But today is the day.
I am in bits. My 22yr old DS is in London on this march. I am shaking and utterly appalled. We differ on politics massively and have done for some time. I work in education, have travelled and am bit of a lefty hippy but to be honest it’s becoming more about values and morals. He is fully immersed in the manosphere algorithm and I’ve always thought he is exploring himself and things and have chats about why he has the opinions he does and try and understand his point of view. I try not to belittle him but try and get him to critically think about things.
But this I can’t deal with. I am so upset that my son has gone to this, and that it is something that is so far away from me and my values, something that I thought I had instilled in him as well.
I am totally aware that it’s triggered embarrassment but that is my issue and I’m not putting that on him. He is still my son and I love him and his passion and interest in the world, just in something I believe is so wrong and makes me sad.
Please talk some sense into me.

Sorry to hear that. I know, it’s absolutely atrocious. Farage getting his hands on it will no doubt transpire to be a case of ‘just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse…’, though. In truth, I don’t know what the answer is.

Maybe linked to immigration. We have a bigger population, and too many people using a system that hasn't increased its capacity to accommodate the extra people. It will be interesting to see if Labour pour more money into the NHS money pit, or whether they've come to the realisation that we can't save it in its current format.

Well let’s hope nobody gets the 666 home today. We all know where they are going to end up! 😂

I do agree with this. I don’t get why so many Britons think it’s either the NHS or the US system and that’s it.

With a collective IQ of about 24.

I agree wit( your first sentence. I disagree about the reason. Yes, covid had an effect, but shouldn’t be affecting efficiency. It’s about austerity. That’s what did it.

It's not a march against immigration. Stopping the boats isn't about stopping immigration, it is about stopping undocumented human trafficking into the country.

The people in those boats are being exploited by smugglers for profit before they enter this country, and then they are exploited for other people's financial gain after they enter this country.

Is it? How is that dropped into a conversation then?

here's some sense for you OP... ..what an utterly ridiculous post.
You are "shaking"?
🙄

You missed the bit where the Tories massively robbed the public purse.

The key in there is ‘hasn’t increased capacity’. Why is that? It’s not the fault of immigration. It’s austerity.

Well you would say that.

Out of the 675 bus routes YL had to choose from, it just so happened he chose the 88 route. And then it just so happened that an 88 bus was passing as the photo to promote a far right event was taken.

OK.

Of course not all men will disrespect women. There's always exceptions to the norm. But I would bet that the majority see women as second class citizens. I come across it in my job every day when I speak to them. It's thinly veiled contempt they have for us. Not entirely their fault as its just been something ingrained into them from birth.

Well known extreme right winger uses well known extreme right wing code? Not much of a conspiracy.

Op might end up losing her son altogether if she decides to be so dogmatic. My dc are adults and have some very ( not main stream) different views to me, but I fully respect their views entirely.

My job isn’t to force feed adult dc with my views or become manipulative /critical/judgemental/threatening or alienating them as a direct consequence or punishment. Op sounds abusive and hyperbolic.

I actually feel sorry for her son, its hideous to have an overbearing mother feeling sick because her child has developed thoughts of his own 🤷‍♀️

The “free speech” march, blaming immigrants for the country’s woes, the flags, the roundabouts and cars being painted, the spreading of racist rhetoric.

Will that do?

Same

And we all want to stop that. But demonising them all as rapists and child abusers and intimidating them isn’t the way to stop it.

Fgs! You’re shaking because your Ds has diffence of opinion from you 🤷‍♀️
When will people realise that we can’t all think alike and just leave it at that.

It’s not. It’s used on promo material like SYL did to signal to his ‘tribe’. I’ve seen it as a tattoo. Badges. Etc etc.

Well I doubt there is much to worry about from that post, it only got 10 views.

That’s a daft question. World of difference marching for hate and racism and against the bombing of kids.

Your them and us language use here is a bit off putting.

Have you read the OP? She’s neither being dogmatic nor overbearing.

Well obviously they are so well embedded among us that they can’t tell who each other are. If you stick a picture of a number 88 bus on the internet then they suddenly realise you are winking at them because you recognised them as a fellow nazi. It’s genius really.