Turn your son in knowing it’s the death penalty?

[TaupeLemur]

Kirk’s killer has apparently been turned in by his family - or persuaded to hand himself in.
Trump &’his supporters have been very vocal about getting the death penalty for the shooter.

would YOU hand your child over, knowing that the electric chair would be the likely outcome?

YANBU - I wouldn’t turn him in to die.

YABU - I would he’s a killer and deserves all he gets

I would turn them in as i believe in a life for a life.

I cannot imagine living in a barbaric country that had the death penalty.

I’m pro-life in all its forms - that means I do not support the taking of any life, whether it’s an unborn human or a person who’s committed a horrific crime.

I should start by saying I’m fundamentally opposed to the death penalty.

I wouldn’t hand my own child over the the police knowing it was the death penalty however sure I was they were guilty and however heinous their crime.

Even if it was logically the right thing to do, I think only a psychopath could knowing contribute to / bring about their own child’s death.

I was thinking of the Ted Kaczynski case (unabomber) where, after much soul-searching, it was his brother David who ultimately shopped him. Darn those “eat my cake and have it” letters - they clean gave him away!

I believe David wrote a few books and subsequently went on the lecture tour. It was very difficult for him obviously, as he knew Ted could face the death penalty. But on the other hand, his brother was an unrepentant mass murderer who used the money his family sent him for his day-to-day living instead to build bombs.

Well this too of course

When this gets to trial, even if he pleads guilty the judge could pronounce the death sentence. There could be years of appeals. It might depend on who the President is by the time it all ends. But Trump won't pardon him will he.

Yes, often the criminal's best change of avoiding the death penalty is turning themselves in and cooperating.

However, in the US often if the family help they will find themselves on attached charges. We can't know how many people the suspect may have put at risk of punishment by their actions after the fact. Would there be siblings who could have become accessories etc.

Even if the defendant had murdered one of your loved ones?

At this point all we have been told is that he is in custody. I would imagine there will be a psychological evaluation as to his state of mind and even the possibility of a plea deal not unlike Brian Kohberger.

If his family believe he is still danger to himself or others I honestly don't see any other choice than turning him in. Also his picture was out there. He was actively being hunted by law enforcement and the general public.

I think id do the right thing but hand on heart, I have no clue what I'd actually do.
Everyone in that family is now in turmoil and their lives are changed forever.
I am thankful I am not in their shoes.

Would you turn them in if there wasn't a death penalty

I don't agree with the death penalty but there is not an inconsistency in their position. They see unborn lives as innocent and worthy of protecting and the lives of murderers as having been given their chance and having forfeited that.

It is fine to disagree with the position, but it is not illogical.

A man gets his throat shot off in cold blood and you’d let your son get away with it? WTF Murdering people has consequences.

I agree with the death penalty but I wouldn’t be handing my child over

I think in most states it would be death via lethal injection. I don't think they have used the electric chair for decades. He would most likely be on death row for a long period of time though. Mind you, Trump may have other ideas.

He was going to be found, if not if but when.
As a parent, I'd want the arrest to happen calmly in my home rather than when my child was fleeing on some road somewhere, ending in a shoot out.
As hard as this is, his dad done the right thing.

Watch the play Inter Alia deals with this subject superbly

Your own son? who you gave birth too?

You'd send him screaming and shitting himself, literally, to a firing squad?

Fuck no

Utah allows execution by firing squad

To those saying they WOULDN’T turn him in, what if this is only the start of a murderous rampage?

How would you feel if one of your loved ones was subsequently murdered by someone whose family KNEW what he’d done previously?

Everyone was (rightly) shouting from the rooftops, including on MN, when that Christopher Laundrie’s parents shielded him over the murder of Gabby Petito in 2022 and thought the parents should have been charged as accomplices or accessories after the fact.

Are you okay with being charged as an accessory just to protect a murderer who has confessed to you?

So who takes the life of the person executing someone? And so on and so on?

Just like his victim did.......

He shot through the throat of an innocent man in public, and you’d protect him? What if he killed someone else? Wouldnt you feel like shit?