Angela Raynor - a thread for sane centre left/lefties

[mumofoneAloneandwell]

The tone on some of the other threads is very 'two tier keir' 'we need reform' 🤢🤢🤢

She had to go. Shame as I thought she was likeable

I remember when he tried to fire her before and she refused to be fired iirc 😭😭

Who will replace her? Who do you want to replace her?

I'm not arsed tbh, but needed a non faragey thread

Yes I think many genuinely are ignorant of the public finances. We really do need increased taxation and a massive cut to benefits, neither of which will be popular. The NHS needs a complete overhaul and trimmed of nonsense policies, layers of management and 'nice to have' services rather than core medical and rehab treatment.

Allowing people to exist on benefits for decades is an absolute disgrace. In some families 3 generations.

I never really liked her but warmed to her when I saw the right wing media start to scalp hunt her because she was in a position of power after a very working class upbringing. I think they’ve hounded her out for much less than their preferred darling Tories/reform politicians have done. It was straight out bullying. I think/hope she’ll be back after a suitable quiet period

We're in a mess due to years of austerity and under investment in public services. Not because of the spending/borrowing of the last year.

You have fallen for that Thatcherite economics, which so many in this country take as absolute gospel.

We are in a mess but further cuts won't dig us out.

We should look more towards Keynesian economics and how the USA climbed out of the great depression.

Franklin D Roosevelt didn't cut public services or benefits. He implemented the New Deal which focused on job creation, social security, financial reforms, agricultural support and expanded workers rights.

What do you want to do re debt? Increase it?

I think we'll have to. Unless you invest as @Worriedrelative said we will just go more and more into decline. We need to invest in so many fields that just aren't getting investment like science, pharmaceuticals, green industries, nuclear that will lead to jobs not to mention in public services like adult skills, as well as things like people to check tax and benefit fraud, visa fraud etc. Part of the reason we are in such a mess is because nothing was done by government for so long, while the Tories were mired first in Brexit then endless leadership elections that everything else was just left to drift. Without investment we will never get out of the doldrums. We have an ageing population who are only going to get less productive and more dependant on social care yet at the other end we throw our brightest young people on the scrapheap of no jobs, little chance of getting getting onto the housing ladder and little chance of ever paying back their student loans.

If your first line means more debt then check out France and the speech by Bayrou today.

She would be subjected to enhanced due diligence/risk assessment but I doubt she would get a different level of advise herself as taxation rules remain the same, whether PEP or not.