Angela Raynor - a thread for sane centre left/lefties

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The tone on some of the other threads is very 'two tier keir' 'we need reform' 🤢🤢🤢

She had to go. Shame as I thought she was likeable

I remember when he tried to fire her before and she refused to be fired iirc 😭😭

Who will replace her? Who do you want to replace her?

I'm not arsed tbh, but needed a non faragey thread

She would no doubt be classed as a PEP but the enhanced due diligence is mainly to check that PEPs aren’t involved in things like money laundering, bribery and corruption. The underpayment of tax in this instance sounds more like a careless mistake, and the firms did suggest / recommend taking specialist advice. So it doesn’t sound like a due diligence failure here, although I’m far from an expert.

@PacificState my understanding is that she was advised by aides to seek additional advice and didn't. Plus she had already been in slightly hot water fairly recently for a tax problem and had had to go through an ethics process.

I do not really buy that the housing minister wouldn't know about specialist tax advisors in this area, but even if she did not, she could have asked an aide or ethics advisor - I'm doing this property purchase, should someone look it over?

She either didn't or brushed off their advice. Which is stupid politics.

I personally think she'll come back after a bit and there's a good chance Wes S will do well out of this.

@JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff I absolutely agree that it was stupid of her not to be double/triple cautious. I guess I just also think that the rules are genuinely obscure to anyone without a legal/financial background, and without a middle-class/professional hinterland.

@LegoPicnic thanks for the explanation.

Agree with this. I was an admirer, and feel disappointed that she had proved the rule that power corrupts.
She was a very decent, empathetic being. And then rose through the ranks and her thinking was perverted.
I hope she reflects and comes back better and stronger.

Excellent post. Put more eloquently than I could but I agree with all of what you said.

@PacificState yeah I don't disagree, it's a shame.

Not enthused about David Lammy as replacement 😬

I'm hoping he was just putting a front on with Vance like we all have to do sometimes with certain odious colleagues or family members but he did look perhaps a bit too happy in his company 😬.

No one failed to give her correct advice within their remit. She didn’t follow the advice to go to the appropriate people. It’s all on her.

No, I can’t bear Lammy. Just wrote a long post about why and decided it was too rude to upload 😂 But basically, I’m glad DPM is a bullshit job with absolutely no power attached.

"Everything was done proper" quote from AR in an interview a few days ago. Couldn't even use the correct grammar.
I would have like to see Brigit Philipson as her replacement. Brigit is from a working class background, think she was on free school meals in her youth, she is so dignified and eloquent compared to AR. KS did not want to see AR leave, and yet he was ruthless with Rebecca Long Bailey, MP for Salford who now stands as an Independant, Corbyn and Abbott. Wonder why that is?
Quite like Jess Phillips too, she has a quick wit, she seems to have fallen out of favour lately though.

Even as an experienced legal professional who has an interest in a property that is on trust the rules are obscure.

I will advise people to consider a trust and signpost them to specialist trust and tax advice but that's it. I know the circumstances they are worth considering but would be negligent if I did more than suggest someone seek further advice.

For my own situation I went to a specialist estate planning solicitor qualified to advise on trusts and tax because I know it is complex.

The guardian are rightly going after farage

Nothing will come of it 💔

My only concern about Streeting is his links with private health care and how he has been funded by them - what are they expecting in return?How private health has invested in Wes Streeting | Good Law Project

This is particularly interesting when you see stories like this Health Secretary signals support for more private investment to fix the NHS | The Independent

Didn’t she get legal advice? Did she really lie?

Praying F doesn’t get in. People have forgotten Brexit. I think we all use the NHS and F wants to get rid of it.

Yes I am not sure on him either. The biggest investment seems to be in male health - still no new midwives, nurses not being funded to train, female health getting worse and waiting lists longer. No new innovations other than giving vaccines against gonorrhea, which, while nice for people who have a lot of unprotected sex, does rather limit how useful it is and arguably not something many will "benefit" from if it means they continue having unprotected sex potentially passing that and worse on to others. I'd rather he helped women's issues like maternal health where women and babies are dying far too regularly.

I dont like wes streeting 😭😭😭

Hes been a lover of private health care for ages

Yes, I bet there's a link to this vaccine no one said we needed.

But we don’t actually know how Labour would have dealt with the Covid crisis. Let’s be honest, if Raynor was capable of spending a huge amount of her sons compensation money as a deposit for a second property, I dread to think what they might have done.

Nah, I am not a Labour voter but EVERY other party knew what should be being done, the Tories just tuned everyone else (including professionals) out. Tories don't get a pass on the deaths and chaos they caused by not tracking COVID and pushing it into care homes. Sorry.

Um

Labour and Angela Raynor in particular were so critical of the tories, to the pettiness of curtains in no 10, to the detriment of more important political issues.
She avoided tax at a time when her party want to tax people who are already struggling and in way well off. £500k property does not constitute well off in the south east, most houses are that money which means crippling mortgages and crippling travel costs if you have to work in London. So pretty ill judged and horrendous for labour from a PR perspective

Is that a man who wanted the vaccine so he could have unprotected sex?
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You are deluded. If every other party was so great, why is our country in a worse mess now and we are not in flipping covid. Labour are borrowing more and more, setting our country up for another financial disaster.

I have to agree. Terrifyingly many people are ignorant of the financial situation the country is in, we are on the brink of a Greece style collapse

and people on here moaning they benefits are better than work so they’ll give up work!

'We are on the brink of a Greece style collapse' ??