Angela Raynor - a thread for sane centre left/lefties

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The tone on some of the other threads is very 'two tier keir' 'we need reform' 🤢🤢🤢

She had to go. Shame as I thought she was likeable

I remember when he tried to fire her before and she refused to be fired iirc 😭😭

Who will replace her? Who do you want to replace her?

I'm not arsed tbh, but needed a non faragey thread

Oh come on! I’m to the left, but even I recognise that the Labour Party exploited every Tory scandal to the nth degree. They can’t then cry foul when one of their own gets the same treatment.

I hope another woman gets a chance. It will be sad to lose some balance on the front bench. I can’t think of anyone who is necessarily qualified to take over housing though - male or female.

I notice Rayner is still trying to use her disabled child as a shield to hide her own greed, lies & corruption.

Corrupt Labour politicians are worse than corrupt Tories because the latter do attempt to hide their venality behind fake piety.

I’m not a lefty and I didn’t particularly like Angela Rayner but I feel sorry for her - in the way she’s been hounded.

I think there are undertones of snobbery in the press campaign, which is not pretty.

@BallerinaRadio , hilarious!

Really?
No, it was a deliberate dodge.

I disagree. She has benefited from being the Darling of the trade unions. The hypocrisy is rank and needs to be called out.

Yeah the hypocrisy is absolutely sickening. Tories who were involved in their own tax scandals playing all innocent and reprimanding her. The meme the daily mail have published of her in front of a council house. The whole thing reeks of classism and misogyny, and anyone (irrespective of their political affiliation, because it’s not really a political issue) should be horrified by the rampant hypocrisy

Great pity. She showed great determination to overcome a difficult background and achieve high office. It’s a particular blow to housing as she was driving that agenda against Treasury and had the strength to stand up for the policy. There will be an election for Deputy Leader now. Lisa Nandy’s name is being mentioned already.

This has shocked me - but only because I would have thought that after going for the Tories and their sleazy antics over tax etc etc she would have made sure that she was whiter than white.

She should have made absolutely sure that what she was doing was correct. Am I naive in thinking that she thought she was doing the right thing when all along….she knowingly wasn’t?

Is she that stupid?

TBH I think her departure is a good thing for Labour in general.

She is widely disliked outside of Labour, and I think represents a side of Labour a lot of middle ground voters don’t like.

I think she has achieved a lot though and faced a lot of misogynist and classist abuse over the years, so sad to see her go over something like this (acknowledging she’s in the wrong…!)

I wonder if now facing the insane taxes the well-paid classes are, she’s had any change of thought about the fairness of them. She’s always been so pro ‘the rich’ being rinsed, but she’s one of them now and is… trying to avoid paying punitively high tax.

I assume under Labour rules that the deputy will now have to be a woman. First and foremost for me will be whether she knows what a woman is. That might exclude Cooper for me as she has an activist son. I will be looking for a steer from Labour that they are steering away from the trans gravy train.

Clever you.

I wish that everyone and all the papers would shut up about MP's houses and scandals forever. I don't care. I actually don't give a shit that Raynor tried to be sneaky about tax. They're all dodging tax in one way or be another because they're all rich and that's what rich people do. And I really don't understand how this is front page biblical news when Mr Toad was over in the US being a literal traitor and shoving himself even more firmly up President Fart's arsehole.

Yep this. The Tory party since time immemorial has been the standard bearer of sleaze (defined in the dictionary as sordid, immoral or corrupt behaviour), so pretty much covers all bases. To say nothing of their inhuman and self serving policies. Angela Rayner called them scum, I agree. How fucking dare they point any fingers.

This exactly.

The thing is people forgive trump / farage as they don't really care about their morals. The don't vote for them because they are good. They vote for them because they promise more money,

I have a lot of respect and admiration for what she's achieved and has overcome. But WHY are they all so stupid to do stuff like this and think they'll get away with it??! They never seem to learn from those who went before and came a cropper. Idiots.

But he’s not taken her down, assuming you mean Angela r, she did that to herself.

Angela is my MP. I thought she was brilliant and would champion the working class given where she’s come from but have been bitterly disappointed (this scandal being just the tip of the iceberg). I can’t say I care too much who comes next. It will no doubt be more of the same. Someone who will go along with this Tory (not so) lite version of politics this so called Labour government is dishing out.

Let’s see if tax dodger farage gets the same focus

Genuinely sad that AR has resigned
However this was an entirely predictable event. She (stupidly) participated in a tax evasion. I mean it was foreseeable that if a prominent politician saves £thousands it will inevitably be scrutinised. I appreciate she is not wealthy and at the time wasn’t in govt, but nonetheless it was an entirely predictable event

It really hasn't. Especially if you look at social improvement.

Reform of course!

Go Nige! He’s the man we all need to save Britain!

Whilst agreeing that resignation was the correct thing to do, there has been double standards when compared with the Tories. Several of whom should have faced criminal charges- for example Nadhim Zahawi had avoided/evaded an amount of tax of a similar scale similar to that which Lester Pigott did, who went to prison.

As evidenced by voting for the Tories led by the serial adulterer and industrial scale liar, Boris Johnson.

But then you can't get on your high horse and preach about morals when it comes to someone else.

If you are a Trump/Johnson/Farage supporter then you have no place in this conversation criticising Rayner. No place at all.