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Perspective on BIL GF please

185 replies

Unc · 01/09/2025 13:00

I have no idea on this at all so would appreciate some perspective. On the one hand I admire her principles, on the other it seems mean and slightly like blackmail.

My BIL gave up employment a few years ago to run his own business. In the main it does well, but is going through a lean time at the moment and he is starting to make noises about needing his mum (MIL) to help tide him over until the next set of invoices are paid.

He's been with his GF for 2 years. They usually live pretty well with meals out and things. Because of the lean times they have both been cutting back. She earns 6 figures and as a result is saving even more money than she usually does. BIL has indicated that she saves several thousand each month. She isn't flashy at all and the salary comes with the job as it were, rather than her wanting to earn loads to sustain her lifestyle.

Over a few glasses of wine at the weekend I asked why she wasn't helping her partner out and instead expecting MIL to step in. She said that he can have access to whatever money the want if they get married. But she wont support him until then, even as a loan. I asked if she would actually marry him and she said she'd marry him tomorrow if he asked, but he doesn't want to get married.

So this is where I am struggling - I don't think my MIL you have to support him rather than his partner. She enjoys a nice lifestyle with him normally, and it seems bloody minded to go without because he is going through a tough few months. Equally she shouldn't have to support someone if she doesn't want to.

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ForeverPombear · 01/09/2025 13:03

Why should she have to support him?

I'm self employed and you have to build your savings up for times like these, it sounds like he's spent all his money rather than saved.

I quite like her stance, I've bailed out multiple boyfriends who went on to dump me and never paid me back.

SoScarletItWas · 01/09/2025 13:03

Does the business make six figures?

”She enjoys a nice lifestyle with him normally” makes it sound as though he is the reason for her ‘nice lifestyle’ when she can well afford one herself.

MyLimeGuide · 01/09/2025 13:04

It doesn't sound like blackmail because its her money, she doesn't have to give it to your BIL. She is offering a VERY kind incentive if he marries her, which IMO she shouldn't have to do.

Diarygirlqueen · 01/09/2025 13:05

I think she is right, good for her sticking to her guns.
He won't put a ring on it, so its all her money. If they broke up, what's the chance of her getting her money back? I would say very slim. Wish more women had the sense of this lady.

Unc · 01/09/2025 13:06

SoScarletItWas · 01/09/2025 13:03

Does the business make six figures?

”She enjoys a nice lifestyle with him normally” makes it sound as though he is the reason for her ‘nice lifestyle’ when she can well afford one herself.

No, they appear to split everything 50:50. Whenever we go out she always pays her way. What I meant was they will go out 3 or 4 times a week normally. And now he's cutting back, she is too. She isn't doing the things I know she enjoys because he can't pay to do them too.

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MYOB12 · 01/09/2025 13:06

She sounds sensible!

GrannyGoggles · 01/09/2025 13:07

I think she may have her head screwed on well. She may, on the other hand, be calculating and manipulative.

BIL not so sure about. Is he a fantasist? Immature? Grafting hard to build something worthwhile and sustainable?

Leilaandtheloggerheads · 01/09/2025 13:07

Neither of them have to support him. Either of them can choose to support him if they want to.

LimbOnTheBranchBranchOnTheTreeTheTreeInTheBog · 01/09/2025 13:07

Good for her.

She isn't expecting MIL to bail him out, he is.

nomas · 01/09/2025 13:07

I can't believe you dared to ask her. It's none of your business and she was within her rights to tell you to get lost.

They are not married and she is smart not to bankroll him. She would be even smarter to refuse to marry him until he is solvent.

Noelshighflyingturds · 01/09/2025 13:07

She sounds like a very smart woman

nomas · 01/09/2025 13:08

GrannyGoggles · 01/09/2025 13:07

I think she may have her head screwed on well. She may, on the other hand, be calculating and manipulative.

BIL not so sure about. Is he a fantasist? Immature? Grafting hard to build something worthwhile and sustainable?

Why is she calculating and manipulative? Because she's a successful woman?

Sorehandsandfeet · 01/09/2025 13:08

Why should either of these women have to support him? He should be looking for a job to support himself. The girlfriend has no responsibility here and has the right idea. If they were married, she'd support him but they are not. He is not her responsibility no matter how well off she is and your MIL is not responsible for bailing her adult son out either

Ratisshortforratthew · 01/09/2025 13:12

She’s damn right! In her situation I’d be telling my partner to get a second job rather than running to mummy.

Unc · 01/09/2025 13:12

nomas · 01/09/2025 13:07

I can't believe you dared to ask her. It's none of your business and she was within her rights to tell you to get lost.

They are not married and she is smart not to bankroll him. She would be even smarter to refuse to marry him until he is solvent.

To be fair we'd had quite a bit to drink and I am concerned about my MIL being seen as the family bank and don't want her being taken advantage of.

I just don't know at what stage you go from being BF/GF to a true partnership. He needs a little help and she isnt happy to step up. It seems a little cold to me.

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heroinechic · 01/09/2025 13:13

No one has to support your BIL. If his business isn’t going well, he needs to either take out a loan to cover it or give it up.

She is being sensible by keeping their money and assets separate until/unless they marry. If he doesn’t want to marry her then he doesn’t get to indulge in the security that marriage brings.

theemmadilemma · 01/09/2025 13:13

She's a smart young women who will go far.

Why would she spend MORE sustaining a lifestyle he can no longer contribute 50% towards?

ForeverPombear · 01/09/2025 13:13

Unc · 01/09/2025 13:12

To be fair we'd had quite a bit to drink and I am concerned about my MIL being seen as the family bank and don't want her being taken advantage of.

I just don't know at what stage you go from being BF/GF to a true partnership. He needs a little help and she isnt happy to step up. It seems a little cold to me.

She's told you the stage - when they are married.

theemmadilemma · 01/09/2025 13:14

ForeverPombear · 01/09/2025 13:13

She's told you the stage - when they are married.

Right, pretty clear and fucking fair to me.

SoScarletItWas · 01/09/2025 13:15

Unc · 01/09/2025 13:12

To be fair we'd had quite a bit to drink and I am concerned about my MIL being seen as the family bank and don't want her being taken advantage of.

I just don't know at what stage you go from being BF/GF to a true partnership. He needs a little help and she isnt happy to step up. It seems a little cold to me.

This sounds like absolutely nothing to do with you.

What BIL asks his mother for is not your concern. It is even less of a concern of the GF. Are you saying GF should become ‘the family bank’ in this situation?

BIL needs a stable income.

LimbOnTheBranchBranchOnTheTreeTheTreeInTheBog · 01/09/2025 13:15

Unc · 01/09/2025 13:12

To be fair we'd had quite a bit to drink and I am concerned about my MIL being seen as the family bank and don't want her being taken advantage of.

I just don't know at what stage you go from being BF/GF to a true partnership. He needs a little help and she isnt happy to step up. It seems a little cold to me.

It's not cold.

She has set out the conditions of being financial partners.

He hasn't accepted them.

He's made his choice. Why is she being blamed?

FuzzyWolf · 01/09/2025 13:15

I say good for her. He won’t commit to her so why should she consider him anything other than something casual, and most people wouldn’t bail a casual fling out with a significant financial sum.

samplesalequeen · 01/09/2025 13:16

She sounds like my kinda gal!

good on her.

YouMightThinkThat · 01/09/2025 13:16

It seems 'a little cold' to you? You're vastly outnumbered here and that should make you sit up and think. To me she sounds eminently sensible and a good lesson in not throwing money at a presumably lost cause in the name of lurrrrve.

nomas · 01/09/2025 13:16

Unc · 01/09/2025 13:12

To be fair we'd had quite a bit to drink and I am concerned about my MIL being seen as the family bank and don't want her being taken advantage of.

I just don't know at what stage you go from being BF/GF to a true partnership. He needs a little help and she isnt happy to step up. It seems a little cold to me.

Why do you see it as the GF taking advantage of your MIL than your BIL taking advantage of your MIL?

Why should she step up for someone who doesn't see a future with her?