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To ask if you'll be attending the anti fascism protest on 13 September

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Whatafustercluck · 26/08/2025 18:44

I'd like to go in solidarity with like minded people, but worry about it turning violent. I won't be taking my children and will likely be going alone. Lots of people I know detest Tommy Robinson but will stay away due to the likelihood of trouble, but I really want to help send a message that racism and hatred won't win. Is anyone here considering going, or decided to stay away?

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ProudCat · 26/08/2025 22:02

JollyUmberDeer · 26/08/2025 21:50

The Polls say that it is a strong possibility.

And if you’re terrified, then may I suggest that calling people who worry about such high levels of immigration fascists isn’t going to keep him from power.

'Him from power?' Who's him? You seem to be talking about Nigel Farage when the demonstration is against Tommy Robinson. Do you think Tommy Robinson is going to get into power?

Here's a quote from Robinson, straight out of the Hitler play book:

‘If you’re a journalist and you think your office or your home is a safe space …. it’s not.’

He was also a member of the British National Party. Here's what one of his mates has said:

'‘National Socialism is the alternative to degeneracy we currently face. It is a pathway to freedom and prosperity. It is an escape from Jewish Tyranny. It is the Future of our people.’

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it's probably a duck (or a fascist in this case). Literally nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with Nazism.

JustCantMakeMyMindUp · 26/08/2025 22:04

Prebendstreet · 26/08/2025 21:30

What exactly are you protesting against please?

Racism!

JollyUmberDeer · 26/08/2025 22:05

ProudCat · 26/08/2025 22:02

'Him from power?' Who's him? You seem to be talking about Nigel Farage when the demonstration is against Tommy Robinson. Do you think Tommy Robinson is going to get into power?

Here's a quote from Robinson, straight out of the Hitler play book:

‘If you’re a journalist and you think your office or your home is a safe space …. it’s not.’

He was also a member of the British National Party. Here's what one of his mates has said:

'‘National Socialism is the alternative to degeneracy we currently face. It is a pathway to freedom and prosperity. It is an escape from Jewish Tyranny. It is the Future of our people.’

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it's probably a duck (or a fascist in this case). Literally nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with Nazism.

Try reading the post and the ones being replied to, before you start pounding the keyboard. The answer to ‘who’s him’ is in one the posts in the chain.

SpottyAardvark · 26/08/2025 22:08

Who exactly are ‘Stand up to Racism” and how are they funded? Are they just another opportunistic front for the SWP?

Dappy777 · 26/08/2025 22:13

No. By fascists I assume you mean people who oppose mass immigration. That doesn’t make you a fascist. It’s a perfectly rational position to hold. Multiculturalism and mass immigration have been IMPOSED on this country, and have destroyed people’s sense of identity. No one asked for it and no one voted for it. Now that’s fascism.

I don’t know how the left have got the nerve to call people like Tommy Robinson a fascist. No one on earth is more dictatorial, intolerant or hate-filled than those on the left. I have never met such horrible, spiteful people. If you do attend, be careful. The levels of smugness could become suffocating.

Prebendstreet · 26/08/2025 22:14

JustCantMakeMyMindUp · 26/08/2025 22:04

Racism!

Oh do you mean the exposing grooming gangs type of racism?

JustCantMakeMyMindUp · 26/08/2025 22:17

FYI … If you have to keep protesting that you’re not racist… then you probably are.

Whatafustercluck · 26/08/2025 22:31

Thelnebriati · 26/08/2025 22:00

It looks like an SWP campaign, there's a link on their website.

https://socialistworker.co.uk/campaigns/

It's organised by standuptoracism.org as I've posted above. SWP may support it of course.

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Whatafustercluck · 26/08/2025 22:38

JollyUmberDeer · 26/08/2025 21:46

OP, I suspect you know that you’re not protesting against fascists. Because your costume signalling suggests you wouldn’t be brave enough to put your head above the parapet if it was actual fascists.

You know that what you dislike is people who want some controls on immigration and especially illegal immigration. So actually you want to have a day out in celebration of open borders. Why not just say that.

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You can assume whatever you like. It doesn't matter to me what you think about me, or my motives.

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awkwardasfuck · 26/08/2025 22:41

I didnt know this was happening so thank you for bringing it to my attention

I (Irish lebanese, but British citizen) will be going with my husband (welsh/saffa) who will absolutely protect me and anyone else being targeted violently by gammons

awkwardasfuck · 26/08/2025 22:42

JustCantMakeMyMindUp · 26/08/2025 22:17

FYI … If you have to keep protesting that you’re not racist… then you probably are.

100%

Whatafustercluck · 26/08/2025 22:46

Dappy777 · 26/08/2025 22:13

No. By fascists I assume you mean people who oppose mass immigration. That doesn’t make you a fascist. It’s a perfectly rational position to hold. Multiculturalism and mass immigration have been IMPOSED on this country, and have destroyed people’s sense of identity. No one asked for it and no one voted for it. Now that’s fascism.

I don’t know how the left have got the nerve to call people like Tommy Robinson a fascist. No one on earth is more dictatorial, intolerant or hate-filled than those on the left. I have never met such horrible, spiteful people. If you do attend, be careful. The levels of smugness could become suffocating.

Even supposing you're right about him not being a fascist (you're not), did you miss his string of convictions for violence, fraud, stalking and harrassment? And you expect me to take your opinions seriously when you choose to side with a man who kicked another person in the head while he was on the floor? Rather be among smugs than thugs.

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Jumpingthruhoops · 26/08/2025 23:02

JollyUmberDeer · 26/08/2025 21:46

OP, I suspect you know that you’re not protesting against fascists. Because your costume signalling suggests you wouldn’t be brave enough to put your head above the parapet if it was actual fascists.

You know that what you dislike is people who want some controls on immigration and especially illegal immigration. So actually you want to have a day out in celebration of open borders. Why not just say that.

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Why can't those who support open borders simply take in one of the hotel residents themselves? Surely that would solve the problem overnight?

Plasticwaste · 26/08/2025 23:06

Sounds very cringe.

awkwardasfuck · 26/08/2025 23:07

Jumpingthruhoops · 26/08/2025 23:02

Why can't those who support open borders simply take in one of the hotel residents themselves? Surely that would solve the problem overnight?

Educate yourself

MiloMinderbinder925 · 26/08/2025 23:13

Ellabella13 · 26/08/2025 21:48

Rightly or wrongly, Reform are well on course to win the next election based on the polls so it’s hardly a surprise it’s getting media coverage.

Worrying times.

Well on course: 4 MPs, councils in shambles, unlikely to get voted back in, typical pie in the sky promises and four years before an election! You couldn't make it up.

JustCantMakeMyMindUp · 26/08/2025 23:16

Thanks for sharing op 👍

MiloMinderbinder925 · 26/08/2025 23:16

Prebendstreet · 26/08/2025 21:30

What exactly are you protesting against please?

It says on the flyer that they're marching against Tommy Robinson and his ilk.

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 26/08/2025 23:16

JustCantMakeMyMindUp · 26/08/2025 22:04

Racism!

I mean, I read that thinking duhhhh 😁
If ever there was a bad faith, "I'm just a l'il old confused innocent" that was one 😁
I mean the clue's in the title and by actually reading the thread.
cue cries of define racism please 🙄

Lucyccfc68 · 26/08/2025 23:21

So on one side you have Yaxley-Lennon’s goons and knuckle draggers and on the other side you have the lovely violent, masked up Antifa mob and then you throw in the SWP, who groom kids - what a fucking fun day out!

I feel sorry for the police in all this, who have to keep all those plebs apart.

Londonismyjam · 26/08/2025 23:26

Dappy777 · 26/08/2025 22:13

No. By fascists I assume you mean people who oppose mass immigration. That doesn’t make you a fascist. It’s a perfectly rational position to hold. Multiculturalism and mass immigration have been IMPOSED on this country, and have destroyed people’s sense of identity. No one asked for it and no one voted for it. Now that’s fascism.

I don’t know how the left have got the nerve to call people like Tommy Robinson a fascist. No one on earth is more dictatorial, intolerant or hate-filled than those on the left. I have never met such horrible, spiteful people. If you do attend, be careful. The levels of smugness could become suffocating.

Oh dear 🙄

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 26/08/2025 23:28

Londonismyjam · 26/08/2025 23:26

Oh dear 🙄

Indeed

Appalonia · 26/08/2025 23:31

Jordan Peterson will be one of the speakers at this event for free speech. So is he a 'fascist ' too? My God, you people are brainwashed idiots, and you have no idea what you are protesting against or for...

MiloMinderbinder925 · 26/08/2025 23:33

Appalonia · 26/08/2025 23:31

Jordan Peterson will be one of the speakers at this event for free speech. So is he a 'fascist ' too? My God, you people are brainwashed idiots, and you have no idea what you are protesting against or for...

Jordan Peterson, what hero.

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