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To have organised a 40th birthday party for me and my twin?

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loonyloo · 25/08/2025 20:31

I've just had an argument with my lifelong friend about this.

I have a twin brother. We turned 40 a couple of weeks ago. I wanted a big party as it's a big milestone. I don't think that's unusual. I told my brother a few months ago that I wanted the party. He said that he didn't want a big fuss and wouldn't come.

I went ahead and organised one. His wife knew and said he'd come. The party came and he didn't show up. I'd assumed he would despite what he'd said. I was really embarrassed in front of all our extended family and friends and upset that he'd let me down. I really thought he'd come. He'd said he hadn't wanted a 21st either but I did, so my mum organised a big party for us. He was a bit grumpy about it, but he did come and enjoyed himself in the end.

I'd told my friend how upset I was about it but she didn't say very much. She can be like that though, she's a bit unfeeling. I saw her on Friday and we ended up having a disagreement about something else that escalated and the subject of the party came up. She said that I was in the wrong for throwing a party for me and my brother. She said if I wanted a party I should've thrown one for myself and not told everyone it was for both of us. She said it was an example of me "always, always having to have things your own fucking way" and that I was selfish.

I'm really upset. I don't think it's selfish of me to want to have a party and I don't see why I shouldn't have one just because my brother doesn't want one. I can't have one just for myself, everyone knows we're twins and it would look weird for me to have a birthday party without him. My friend was really rude today and needs to watch her temper. I'm a really kind person and I think it's not too much to ask for others to put themselves out for me sometimes, but I've been thinking about what my friend said and now I'm worried other people think I was selfish about the party.

OP posts:
JustSawJohnny · 27/08/2025 18:09

I have not had, or asked my brother for, a birthday party since our 21st. So it's been 19 years of his way

You're acting like birthday parties for adults between the ages of 22-39 are a thing.

They're not.

We never do anything for our birthday at all because he never wants to (which to be fair I haven't mentioned on here before)

Again, you're adults.

Two different ones, at that.

Act like it.

If I have a party that is just "my" party and not his, with our family and my friends, and he comes as a guest, it ends up being his party anyway as people wish him happy birthday etc. Not a problem for me, but that then means he is having a party

So you're not even happy when you do get your way. You have to prove him 'wrong', too.

Exhausting.

By inviting his friends he at least had people there just for him

For him AT A PARTY HE'D ALREADY STATED HE DIDN'T WANT.

the other option is that I have "my own" party and he doesn't come at all. But how many of you, hand on heart, wouldn't feel hurt and left down if your own brother couldn't be bothered to come to a milestone birthday party? Or something other event that was important to you? Twin or not? Even for an hour?

Aaaaand we're back to ME, ME ME, ME , MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

#TeamBrotherFindingHisBalls

Topseyt123 · 27/08/2025 18:18

loonyloo · 26/08/2025 19:51

I know we are separate people. I know we are not joined at the hip. I don't expect or even want us to everything together.

Do you have any siblings? Would you like it if they basically refused to mark your birthday, ever? Ignore the twin aspect for now. Just think how it would feel if your brother refused to ever show up for you. Can't you see how hurtful that could be?

My sibling and I don't send each other birthday or Christmas cards, or presents either. Just WhatsApp messages.

We aren't twins, but I don't see as it would be any different if we were.

PigletSanders · 27/08/2025 19:34

loonyloo · 26/08/2025 19:44

He never wants to go out for dinner!!! I literally just said he never wants to do anything, so every year we do what he wants to do, which means we do nothing!!! There is no give and take in any of this

I don’t think you can count him not wishing to celebrate his own birthday, which is not what you want, as his ‘getting his own way’. 🤣 it’s a negative, he’s choosing not to do something, just because he hasn’t jumped to do exactly what you want, doesn’t make him not doing anything ‘him getting his own way’.

I suspect you won’t see that though.

OP, you’re so rigid in the way you view things, and it is exclusively from your own perspective.

Mothership4two · 27/08/2025 19:39

I suspect he does do something on his birthday but just with his wife (& DC if they have any)

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 27/08/2025 21:06

No sure if you’re still reading OP, but it’s just occurred to me that your brother might actually have a proper issue with birthdays. You mentioned him being made to have a 21st party he didn’t want. He could genuinely find birthdays quite triggering, which would explain the lack of cards or birthday messages. Does he do anything at all, just with his wife or something, to mark his birthday? If not I think maybe he genuinely has a real problem with birthdays in general. In which case, scrap my previous suggestion of a birthday meal with just the two of you, and try to find a non birthday related way to connect with him.

Cheeky19863 · 27/08/2025 21:44

loonyloo · 26/08/2025 19:25

This thread has become a total pile on and I'm starting to feel a bit beseiged by all the responses telling me I'm a shit person. I've been really overwhelmed all day.

Thank you to the handful of people who have at least tried to see things from my point of view or been constructive in disagreeing with me.

Some of you have been criticising me for not appreciating that people are different, but then turning round and sneering at me because "adults having birthday parties is weird". That's hypocritical.

I haven't got the energy or the mental capacity to respond to any more of the individual questions as I'm exhausted by it all. But I will say that my sister in law is not at fault here.

I'm going to try to explain this one last time in the hope that people will finally understand.

  • I have not had, or asked my brother for, a birthday party since our 21st. So it's been 19 years of his way
  • We never do anything for our birthday at all because he never wants to (which to be fair I haven't mentioned on here before)
  • If I have a party that is just "my" party and not his, with our family and my friends, and he comes as a guest, it ends up being his party anyway as people wish him happy birthday etc. Not a problem for me, but that then means he is having a party
  • By inviting his friends he at least had people there just for him
  • the other option is that I have "my own" party and he doesn't come at all. But how many of you, hand on heart, wouldn't feel hurt and left down if your own brother couldn't be bothered to come to a milestone birthday party? Or something other event that was important to you? Twin or not? Even for an hour?

People DO understand and expressed their opinion (which you came on here to ask for) Just because you dont agree doesnt mean we all dont "understand". If youre never going to take on board other peoples thoughts or feelings you will never change your behaviour. You are not the victim in this. You need to take your friend, your brothers and the vast majority of people on this threads views and change your ways. Stop playing the victim

Cheeky19863 · 27/08/2025 21:52

loonyloo · 26/08/2025 19:44

He never wants to go out for dinner!!! I literally just said he never wants to do anything, so every year we do what he wants to do, which means we do nothing!!! There is no give and take in any of this

Because he doesnt want to!!! Christ on a bike you are hard work. You need to grow up and stop being so self centred. Im suprised your brother and friend still speak to you at all with your me, me, me attitude!!! Are you going to cry about him not celebrating your 50th, 60th etc. Knock it on the head OP. Not everyone likes or wants a birthday party as an adult! You sound so self focused and still wont take anyone elses views on board (96% of people) Dont bother asking if youre not going to take anything on board. Its like talking to a brick wall. Good on your brother for not being forced into your nonsense

Cheeky19863 · 27/08/2025 21:54

loonyloo · 26/08/2025 21:33

Thank you. I think one of the things that the thread has helped me with is that my brother isn't as interested maintaining a relationship with me as I am with him, rightly or wrongly. I think it'll be better for me if I stop wasting my time and emotional energy expecting any different from him. If I go low contact with him that will probably make him happier too.

Or you could just have your own birthday party next time? Why are you always so "all or nothing". Cutting him off because he didnt want to have a joint party just sounds childish and "sulky". Are you ND OP?

SkaneTos · 27/08/2025 22:06

Are there any activities that you and your twin like to do together?
Cinema, sports, visit museums, go to a concert/theatre, hiking, camping?
Maybe you can do something like that instead, on your next birthday.

Or just a nice quiet dinner with the two of you, and perhaps your closest family members.

user1473878824 · 27/08/2025 22:30

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:34

No, it's a different friend. I don't think that situation is at all relevant to this one so I'm not sure why you're dragging it up

Edited

Hmmm.

CarpetKnees · 27/08/2025 22:46

This thread has become a total pile on and I'm starting to feel a bit beseiged by all the responses telling me I'm a shit person.

The point is
1 You asked a question
2 Lots of people answered, and the poll has been flickering betwee 96% and 98% of voters telling you YABU.
3 At this point, you could have reflected on the fact that virtually every post, and (currently) 96% of 4538 people think YABU, and maybe accept that you were, in fact being unreasonable, and the thread would have closed. But you didn't.
4 Your replies / later comments continue to refute anything virtually everyone has said. So therefore
5 Posters will reply to your replies.

Despite all that, no-one has accused you of being what you say they have, and I've not read anyone saying you are "a shit person" either.

Plenty have agreed you are selfish. Almost everyone agrees YABU.

Why ask if you don't want to hear the answer ?
Why continue to try to make out you are NOT BU when it is such a clear cut agreement ?

Trishthedish · 27/08/2025 23:02

You are 40 not 4. You had a party, your brother wasn’t interested and didn’t come. So what.

Happyflower12345 · 28/08/2025 15:37

Accept your brother for who he is and he does/doesn't want to do. Your life will be less stressful.

Wingingit73 · 28/08/2025 17:28

You sound impossible. He didn't want a party and you ignored him. Again. You pushed your friend to express her opinion then kick off about it because you dont like it.

KTMeetsTheRsUptown · 28/08/2025 20:56

I thought you were being unreasonable but after reading @User5432154321 post I've changed my mind and think YANBU. As a non-twin I can see it being a tricky situation for you and think you did the best you could. Shame DB didnt come but at least DSIL could have come and yr friend was being a bit out of order.

Beachtastic · 28/08/2025 21:01

BuckChuckets · 26/08/2025 22:02

I've read all of your comments, OP, and I'm afraid you come across as totally self-absorbed. Even the things you say to try to defend your point of view make you sound worse.

Oh, I totally disagree! I voted YABU because I started off thinking that way, but having read OP's posts in succession I completely changed my view. Sorry you tried to do something nice and it didn't go the way you'd hoped, OP. Brothers can be weird. Taking a step back from now on is probably the sensible option 😕

PopcornKitten · 29/08/2025 09:56

I don’t think OP will be back as this hasn’t gone the way she hoped. I do hope she takes notice of the comments she saw and looks to restore the relationships with her family and friend.

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