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Mothers who don't make their kids use headphones on trains

223 replies

Encrochat · 23/08/2025 18:04

On a train from Edinburgh to London. 3 incidences of this in our carriage
why would this not occur to you?!
tell Your kids to turn it the fuxk down/ off or buy some headphones

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EmpressaurusKitty · 24/08/2025 08:35

I usually feel more annoyed by adults not using headphones because they should definitely know better, & if they can’t tolerate them for any reason they should be capable of waiting to make a noise until they’re off the train, bus etc.

But why do games even need music or sound effects? The first thing I usually do when downloading a new game is turn them off.

Mermaidsarereal · 24/08/2025 10:08

Can't stand it! When I'm travelling to work on a morning its usually adults not using headphones, it's the most annoying thing ever listening to multiple short videos as loud as their phone can go!

Iampondering · 24/08/2025 15:48

I actually find this thread a bit terrifying. What have we come to that people are justifying any level of volume being ok on a device without headphones? Outside of ND needs, or an unexpected disaster with a train being delayed by 5187142 hours and you were expecting it to be 30 mins.
My DC is 7. I am by no means mum of the year. But they have never had an iPad, and have very limited screen time. A train journey or restaurant I’ll pack a backpack with games, colouring, activities, play I-spy and generally interact.
A long (3+ hour car journey or long haul flight) they can borrow a iPad with headphones. They don’t love headphones and never have, especially as a toddler. No problem, they can do a different activity. The choice is for them, but no headphones no iPad.
Also there’s nothing wrong with a child being bored. It encourages them to use their imagination. We had a 45 minute game the other week with Mr Fork playing with Mrs Spoon.

OonaStubbs · 24/08/2025 16:43

It should be banned outright.

ruethewhirl · 24/08/2025 18:59

Iampondering · 24/08/2025 15:48

I actually find this thread a bit terrifying. What have we come to that people are justifying any level of volume being ok on a device without headphones? Outside of ND needs, or an unexpected disaster with a train being delayed by 5187142 hours and you were expecting it to be 30 mins.
My DC is 7. I am by no means mum of the year. But they have never had an iPad, and have very limited screen time. A train journey or restaurant I’ll pack a backpack with games, colouring, activities, play I-spy and generally interact.
A long (3+ hour car journey or long haul flight) they can borrow a iPad with headphones. They don’t love headphones and never have, especially as a toddler. No problem, they can do a different activity. The choice is for them, but no headphones no iPad.
Also there’s nothing wrong with a child being bored. It encourages them to use their imagination. We had a 45 minute game the other week with Mr Fork playing with Mrs Spoon.

Absolutely! I think a little bit of boredom is actually good for most kids. Encourages them to use their imagination.

Pickledchilli · 24/08/2025 19:21

ruethewhirl · 24/08/2025 18:59

Absolutely! I think a little bit of boredom is actually good for most kids. Encourages them to use their imagination.

yip, like banging the back of seats!!

OonaStubbs · 25/08/2025 00:09

Why are there kids today that can't cope without screens? What did their equivalent do in the past when there were no screens?

ruethewhirl · 25/08/2025 00:48

Pickledchilli · 24/08/2025 19:21

yip, like banging the back of seats!!

I never did that as a child when I was bored. Because I knew I wasn't allowed to.

ruethewhirl · 25/08/2025 00:49

OonaStubbs · 25/08/2025 00:09

Why are there kids today that can't cope without screens? What did their equivalent do in the past when there were no screens?

Run riot, according to some on here. 🙄

TigerRag · 25/08/2025 09:51

I don't ever remember running riot on trains. My parents actually interacted with me

TheNightingalesStarling · 25/08/2025 09:57

I remember being sent to walk the length of the train (not run!) On the London to Glasgow route to get rid of some energy. When older to pick my mum up a cup of tea from the buffet car.

Definitely no screaming or kicking seats.

birdling · 25/08/2025 10:05

Encrochat · 23/08/2025 18:18

It was mothers on my train as I described in the post.

No you didn't. It was only in the title, the actual post was completely void of any description.

DianaVilliers · 25/08/2025 10:27

I agree the listening to music without headphones is anti social and annoying. Though when I've seen it it's often been adult men. The worst is when several people have different things blaring out from their phones. I think part of the problem is that many phones no longer have headphone jacks, still not an excuse though.

InStilettos · 25/08/2025 10:50

I travel first class for work a lot and have never encountered anyone playing phones out loud in a first class carriage - adults or children. When I'm paying for myself and go standard, phones are blasting out tiktok, YouTube, games and tv shows and it's adults, teens and kids doing it. There's no announcement in First asking people not to do it - they just don't! It's so much nicer.

I think it's worse in restaurants than on public transport and I can't understand why anyone thinks it's ok to whip out an iPad and play Peppa Pig or whatever at the table for all the other diners to endure.

Denim4ever · 25/08/2025 11:07

When our DC was small we read The Twits together aloud (but not loudly) on a train back from the Lakes. When we'd finished, the lady in the seat in front of me (we were not at a table) said how much she'd enjoyed us reading.

Never been very fond of using tech on trains, we are more of a book/kindle, look at the view family. Occasional Top Trumps, bit of Lego, drawing.

If there are kids on the train, it is hard for them to be completely quiet and using headphones with devices is probably the closest to quiet that's achievable.

On the whole, what makes a noisy or annoying traveller varies. On a packed 5 hour train from Penzance to Paddington we were in a carriage with a man constantly on his phone talking. It was not on speaker, but he had a voice that addressed the carriage. I had a big fat book and wasn't listening and yet his level of intrusive was such that I could tell that these were conversations I'd avoid having loudly in public. He was some sort of sports booker or promoter. So names, ages, weights, heights, opinions. We were not even that near him.

Denim4ever · 25/08/2025 11:17

ruethewhirl · 24/08/2025 18:59

Absolutely! I think a little bit of boredom is actually good for most kids. Encourages them to use their imagination.

I recall 3 dinosaur models and a Playmobil figure had a great adventure on a train ride with us. I also recall that DS was at the walking holding an adults hand stage for a Eurostar journey. He wasn't talking much then, so this was quiet walking. A posh bloke commented, 'here they come again' at one point. Sigh.

ruethewhirl · 25/08/2025 14:43

TigerRag · 25/08/2025 09:51

I don't ever remember running riot on trains. My parents actually interacted with me

Exactly, and yet some on here are claiming screens are the only way they can possibly get their kid to behave on a journey. It's laughable.

OonaStubbs · 25/08/2025 14:45

When I got bored on long journeys as a kid I got told to look out the window. Which I did. Misbehaving, running riot etc would NOT have been acceptable to my parents.

Zanatdy · 25/08/2025 15:00

Not just kids. A woman on our train told this young guy to turn his down last week. Good for her, but his reaction wasn’t great. That said she had her full make up bag out doing her make up on train which can be another annoyance.

Faceonthewrongfoot · 25/08/2025 17:13

InStilettos · 25/08/2025 10:50

I travel first class for work a lot and have never encountered anyone playing phones out loud in a first class carriage - adults or children. When I'm paying for myself and go standard, phones are blasting out tiktok, YouTube, games and tv shows and it's adults, teens and kids doing it. There's no announcement in First asking people not to do it - they just don't! It's so much nicer.

I think it's worse in restaurants than on public transport and I can't understand why anyone thinks it's ok to whip out an iPad and play Peppa Pig or whatever at the table for all the other diners to endure.

This is generally true, but I was once in the first class carriage and a family were being quite loud, having loud phone calls on speaker phone and the guard did go and remind them they were in first class and to keep it down...!

TheignT · 25/08/2025 21:01

When I mentioned being on a 2 HR train journey that turned into five and a half with a grumpy almost two year old, train packed so I couldn't move and running out of snacks and it was past lunch time the three ladies sitting at our table unanimously voted to let him watch Bluey. It was first class.

TheignT · 25/08/2025 21:05

Denim4ever · 25/08/2025 11:07

When our DC was small we read The Twits together aloud (but not loudly) on a train back from the Lakes. When we'd finished, the lady in the seat in front of me (we were not at a table) said how much she'd enjoyed us reading.

Never been very fond of using tech on trains, we are more of a book/kindle, look at the view family. Occasional Top Trumps, bit of Lego, drawing.

If there are kids on the train, it is hard for them to be completely quiet and using headphones with devices is probably the closest to quiet that's achievable.

On the whole, what makes a noisy or annoying traveller varies. On a packed 5 hour train from Penzance to Paddington we were in a carriage with a man constantly on his phone talking. It was not on speaker, but he had a voice that addressed the carriage. I had a big fat book and wasn't listening and yet his level of intrusive was such that I could tell that these were conversations I'd avoid having loudly in public. He was some sort of sports booker or promoter. So names, ages, weights, heights, opinions. We were not even that near him.

I was on a long journey on a train when a man had terrible tourettes, I felt so sorry for him. He was so loud and kept apologising but some people were being rude to him.

Some people are so unkind.

Encrochat · 26/08/2025 07:32

birdling · 25/08/2025 10:05

No you didn't. It was only in the title, the actual post was completely void of any description.

But you must've read the post, including the title, so it was quite obvious it was women. I think you're being a bit silly.

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RhaenysRocks · 26/08/2025 07:39

TheignT · 25/08/2025 21:05

I was on a long journey on a train when a man had terrible tourettes, I felt so sorry for him. He was so loud and kept apologising but some people were being rude to him.

Some people are so unkind.

That's completely different.
I think it's really sad that some on here think it's inevitable that kids will run riot or kick seats unless allowed to use a screen without headphones. Use of screen..meh, not ideal for a whole journey but fine if you want, but the no headphones / sound up thing is inexplicable outwith very unusual and rare circumstances. I love the pp who asked the surrounding people if they minded during a severe delay...that's great..most people understand in a situation like that and it shows awareness that it will be irritating. I used to to frequent three hour trains with my two..top trumps and hangman, books and puzzle games, magazines and so on, lots of snacks and DS games with zero sound. It was and always has been one of my few red lines with them.

TheignT · 26/08/2025 07:59

RhaenysRocks · 26/08/2025 07:39

That's completely different.
I think it's really sad that some on here think it's inevitable that kids will run riot or kick seats unless allowed to use a screen without headphones. Use of screen..meh, not ideal for a whole journey but fine if you want, but the no headphones / sound up thing is inexplicable outwith very unusual and rare circumstances. I love the pp who asked the surrounding people if they minded during a severe delay...that's great..most people understand in a situation like that and it shows awareness that it will be irritating. I used to to frequent three hour trains with my two..top trumps and hangman, books and puzzle games, magazines and so on, lots of snacks and DS games with zero sound. It was and always has been one of my few red lines with them.

That was me as well. I seem to spend far too much time on trains. The three women who voted yes to DGS having Bluey on were really lovely. Probably helped that he'd been charming them for three hours before he hit hungry/restless/fed up which to be fair we all were.

I think it was so crowded, couldn't move in first class which I'd booked to make it easier with the little one dread to think what the rest of the train was like, it was so hot, everyone was getting hungry and thirsty, impossible to get to the toilets, we ended up with a bit of the blitz spirit with lots of chatting and people sharing what they had e.g. Id been given some bottles of water by platform staff before we got on and gave them to a couple of older people who were struggling.

One woman seemed to have supernatural abilities to move through the packed solid aisles and she did a trip to get food and drink for people. I wasn't sitting close enough to benefit from that.

A terrible journey with some positive elements.