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Mothers who don't make their kids use headphones on trains

223 replies

Encrochat · 23/08/2025 18:04

On a train from Edinburgh to London. 3 incidences of this in our carriage
why would this not occur to you?!
tell Your kids to turn it the fuxk down/ off or buy some headphones

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Camera21 · 23/08/2025 19:54

I’m on a train now and a young teen has his volume up loud while parents look on. I’m so tired of this

Pickledchilli · 23/08/2025 19:55

Encrochat · 23/08/2025 19:48

I'm parent of the year
None of mine used iPads, largely because they weren't invented

Yea and you are from the era where they didn’t use car seats, you weren’t from the era when there were so many cars on the road so your kids couldnt cycle freely, or you were from the era when kids could play on the green without supervision. Also an era when families could survive on one average income, parents are busier and more involved these days. The list goes on….

That doesn’t mean you are a great parent, things were more care free back then.

Ddakji · 23/08/2025 19:57

Pickledchilli · 23/08/2025 19:55

Yea and you are from the era where they didn’t use car seats, you weren’t from the era when there were so many cars on the road so your kids couldnt cycle freely, or you were from the era when kids could play on the green without supervision. Also an era when families could survive on one average income, parents are busier and more involved these days. The list goes on….

That doesn’t mean you are a great parent, things were more care free back then.

Edited

You’re making more crap up. There weren’t iPads around when DD was little but there certainly were car seats. She’s only 15.

Encrochat · 23/08/2025 20:00

lol @Pickledchilli. My kids aren't 70. They're in their 20s Biscuit

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Pickledchilli · 23/08/2025 20:00

Ddakji · 23/08/2025 19:57

You’re making more crap up. There weren’t iPads around when DD was little but there certainly were car seats. She’s only 15.

@Ddakji im not talking to you, I replied to @Encrochat

Encrochat · 23/08/2025 20:01

my children wore rough hewn tunics and carved their names on flints

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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/08/2025 20:01

EmpressaurusKitty · 23/08/2025 18:14

What I’d really like would be if portable electrical devices only played sound if people were wearing headphones. I know that’s extreme but it would be a lot less annoying on public transport.

Yes, this would be amazing.

Encrochat · 23/08/2025 20:02

Weird yoy say "playing on the green" because they did so much of that they were found by Google Maps!
not that they'd know because they didn't have an iPad!

boom

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Ddakji · 23/08/2025 20:03

Pickledchilli · 23/08/2025 20:00

@Ddakji im not talking to you, I replied to @Encrochat

You’re making crap up if you think that car seats didn’t predate iPads.

Pickledchilli · 23/08/2025 20:04

Encrochat · 23/08/2025 20:00

lol @Pickledchilli. My kids aren't 70. They're in their 20s Biscuit

There is a lot of changes in parenting in 20+ years…
Madeline McCanns story has really changed parenting style which was after your time!!

TY78910 · 23/08/2025 20:04

Ddakji · 23/08/2025 19:49

I said that in response to a poster who wants to impose her volume onto the rest of the carriage because apparently a) she can’t put headphones on her children and b) there’s no other way to keep a child occupied for a 2 hour train journey.

Why are you making stuff up?

I said that a lot of 3/4 year olds would not sit there with a pair of headphones and that I had no issue with not giving my kid an iPad but there would be other noise coming out of my child and not the device. You then threw comments such as ‘only if they’re not being parented’ and then resorted to telling me I’m a lazy parent because I’d let my child have a bit of iPad on a long train journey.

Let me do some maths - you grew up in the 70s/80s where it was the norm to let your kids roam the streets for hours on end without any trackers / phones. That would be called neglect in today’s age or indeed lazy parenting. These days if you’re not a single mum, both parents work full time and commute, take care of the house and the kids around that with little support because the ‘village’ no longer exists. You spend your free time rotating toys because the world tells you you need to do the Montessori method. One weekend you decide to take your kids up town to the zoo, take the train and then three tubes, spend 6 hours chasing them in a busy location. You get back on the train in rush hour after a long day ‘parenting’, thinking you’ve got to do the whole bedtime routine when you get home, but fucking hell Brenda, don’t be lazy, get your blue Peter suitcase out and do some colouring because Ddakji is sitting behind you turning up her nose ready to tell you exactly ‘how it was back in my day’ if the iPad comes out.

Coventgardengirl · 23/08/2025 20:06

TY78910 · 23/08/2025 18:55

How old were the kids. I couldn’t force a 3-4 yo to wear headphones for example. So it’s either a bit of Peppa, or you’ve got a kid opening and closing the seat table behind you Or standing on the seat trying to look through the gap in between the two 🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

Or you could just parent your child . You tell them no headphones no peppa pig . And you just don’t allow them to stand on the seats it’s not difficult

Ddakji · 23/08/2025 20:07

TY78910 · 23/08/2025 20:04

I said that a lot of 3/4 year olds would not sit there with a pair of headphones and that I had no issue with not giving my kid an iPad but there would be other noise coming out of my child and not the device. You then threw comments such as ‘only if they’re not being parented’ and then resorted to telling me I’m a lazy parent because I’d let my child have a bit of iPad on a long train journey.

Let me do some maths - you grew up in the 70s/80s where it was the norm to let your kids roam the streets for hours on end without any trackers / phones. That would be called neglect in today’s age or indeed lazy parenting. These days if you’re not a single mum, both parents work full time and commute, take care of the house and the kids around that with little support because the ‘village’ no longer exists. You spend your free time rotating toys because the world tells you you need to do the Montessori method. One weekend you decide to take your kids up town to the zoo, take the train and then three tubes, spend 6 hours chasing them in a busy location. You get back on the train in rush hour after a long day ‘parenting’, thinking you’ve got to do the whole bedtime routine when you get home, but fucking hell Brenda, don’t be lazy, get your blue Peter suitcase out and do some colouring because Ddakji is sitting behind you turning up her nose ready to tell you exactly ‘how it was back in my day’ if the iPad comes out.

What a crock of shit. Do you always lie this much when others disagree with you?

The only thing you got right there is when I was a child. The rest is so far off the mark it would be laughable if it wasn’t so pathetic.

Enjoy your evening. It’s been fun poking you but you’re getting a bit unhinged now.

JoeTheDrummer · 23/08/2025 20:08

I’m with you OP, it’s really irritating. Just so many thick inconsiderate parents. If your child won’t wear headphones then they don’t get the iPad, they’ll learn soon enough. Or shock horror, they may need to go on a journey without a screen and their parent would actually have to interact with them!

Pickledchilli · 23/08/2025 20:10

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whatsit84 · 23/08/2025 20:11

I hate it when people do this. When did it become an acceptable thing, it’s bizarre!

Coventgardengirl · 23/08/2025 20:12

Pickledchilli · 23/08/2025 19:15

Kids in the past went wild, running up and down carriages. There is only so much sitting a young child can handle.

No they didn’t . If I tried this with my mother I wouldn’t have sat down for a week

Strawberrysummer25 · 23/08/2025 20:13

The last 2 flights that I have been on a child has had the same game on, and it is so annoying, the child appears to win a coin with sound effects, the parents must be deaf to it, as well as all the nearby passengers mumblings. I do find tablets more irritating than speech.

Changeusername8 · 23/08/2025 20:16

Pickledchilli · 23/08/2025 19:25

Nope, still way too loud. Ongoing use of headphones in kids can cause long term hearing losses. So your so called judgement on parents (like the OP) is not so well
informed.

https://hearingconservation.org.uk/could-headphones-be-damaging-your-childrens-hearing/

Are you reading the article you are referencing?! It talks about mitigating hearing loss by buying child specific headphones that don’t go beyond a specific volume, setting device limits, or downloading a volume limiting app. There solved it for you. No need to bother everyone with peppa pig

Changeusername8 · 23/08/2025 20:16

Pickledchilli · 23/08/2025 19:25

Nope, still way too loud. Ongoing use of headphones in kids can cause long term hearing losses. So your so called judgement on parents (like the OP) is not so well
informed.

https://hearingconservation.org.uk/could-headphones-be-damaging-your-childrens-hearing/

Are you reading the article you are referencing?! It talks about mitigating hearing loss by buying child specific headphones that don’t go beyond a specific volume, setting device limits, or downloading a volume limiting app. There solved it for you. No need to bother everyone with peppa pig

Pickledchilli · 23/08/2025 20:23

Changeusername8 · 23/08/2025 20:16

Are you reading the article you are referencing?! It talks about mitigating hearing loss by buying child specific headphones that don’t go beyond a specific volume, setting device limits, or downloading a volume limiting app. There solved it for you. No need to bother everyone with peppa pig

No, if you have ever used them before kids can find how to adjust the volume easily, even my 2
year old can. I have to constantly check the volume and often more than not they are way too loud which can affect t their hearing.

so to save my kids hearing I don’t use them, however I do respect other passengers and turn the volume on really low so you can barely hear, they more just watch it. Also, they are more aware of their surroundings of what is going on, as believe it or not, the iPad gets boring too for the limited time they watch it.

Encrochat · 23/08/2025 20:26

Pickledchilli · 23/08/2025 20:04

There is a lot of changes in parenting in 20+ years…
Madeline McCanns story has really changed parenting style which was after your time!!

No. It was when one of mine went missing in a city centre when he was 2.

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Ddakji · 23/08/2025 20:27

Pickledchilli · 23/08/2025 20:23

No, if you have ever used them before kids can find how to adjust the volume easily, even my 2
year old can. I have to constantly check the volume and often more than not they are way too loud which can affect t their hearing.

so to save my kids hearing I don’t use them, however I do respect other passengers and turn the volume on really low so you can barely hear, they more just watch it. Also, they are more aware of their surroundings of what is going on, as believe it or not, the iPad gets boring too for the limited time they watch it.

If you can hear it others can hear it.

I totally respect your choice not to use headphones but then - no headphones, no volume. It’s really very simple.

Pickledchilli · 23/08/2025 20:28

Ddakji · 23/08/2025 20:27

If you can hear it others can hear it.

I totally respect your choice not to use headphones but then - no headphones, no volume. It’s really very simple.

No I will carry on as I am thank you, I don’t use public transport anyways, only planes where the noise is drowned out.

Pickledchilli · 23/08/2025 20:32

Encrochat · 23/08/2025 20:26

No. It was when one of mine went missing in a city centre when he was 2.

Were you parent of the year then!!!???