Mothers who don't make their kids use headphones on trains

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On a train from Edinburgh to London. 3 incidences of this in our carriage
why would this not occur to you?!
tell Your kids to turn it the fuxk down/ off or buy some headphones

Why have the volume on then???

I’m glad you don’t use public transport. I’m in London and use it constantly, and constantly there’s some inconsiderate twat on it playing volume through their phone, and sometimes with their kid as well, ensuring they grow up to be an inconsiderate twat too. Oh, they think no one else can hear whatever kids programme their watching squeaking tinnily out but I can assure you they can, and from quite some distance away.

The only acceptable volume is off.

If it's not off, you're not respecting other passengers and you're not raising your kids to respect other people.

Id vote for whatever party outlaws this. Everything is so noisy and if you’re autistic it’s debilitating - the outrage makes it impossible to deal with life.

We had this on holiday round the pool - people's kids sitting on loungers watching Peppa Pig at full blast. Someone else has brought speakers and is listening to their music full blast. Oh, and some bloke watching a football match, volume up.

On the plane back, full grown man across the aisle from us playing a game on his phone with the sound up. Gives me absolute rage - they just don't give a shit about anyone else.

I think people acting like they’re the only people there - children or adults - is so insanely rude I can’t believe there aren’t more rules about it. No headphones = no sound, end of. On planes or in restaurants or on the bus.

My daughter is autistic so yes we had to try a few options before we found what works for her. Before that, she just played games with the sound off or coloured or read a book or learned how to behave - lots of hard work of course but that’s what needs to happen to create functional adults.

I would disagree. It is respecting people. The other alternative with young children is them
ending up kicking the back of your seats, crying or playing either the foldable tables. For most parents iPads are not the only tool for entertaining kids, we use colouring books, books, toys, etc but people like you judge only the little moment they watch an iPad for 20 mins.
But you are the greater human being, so well done you!

Well, obviously that’s not the only other alternative since you go on to list alternatives 🙄. And I’m pretty sure that reading or colouring books don’t come with electronic sound that can be imposed on other passengers.

Then maybe you need to work on your parenting.

generations of parents were able to occupy their DC prior to the existence of iPads.

YANBU, it is antisocial.
Today, I was sat on a bench in the local park, and a woman propped her bike up against the bench and sat at the other end. That is fine... except she had a bluetooth speaker on her bike and was playing god awful rap music really loud through it. It went right through me.

Christ on a bike

Not judging the iPad, just judging the lack of headphones. If your child keeps turning the volume up and you’re worried about hearing damage, either get child ones which have a limit, or say ‘if you turn the volume up I’m taking the iPad away’. And then follow-through!

https://iclever.com/pages/kids-hearing-protection

if your two year old can hack the decibel adjustment function on modern kids headphones…. Hats off to you. You might have a genius on your hands.

seriously though you seem to be going out of your way to justify using iPads with volume in public transport. So congrats to you

That's fine. I can cope with child noise.

We had anolder guy (my age) on a train recently and had the sound up on his ipad - to be fair he did turn it down when I asked him to, but WTF

It’s so interesting the posters saying “There is a lot of changes in parenting in 20+ years…” and implying that using iPads without headphones is better parenting than the “neglect” of the .

My older DC whose childhoods fell into the both pre and post iPad world feel very strongly that iPads and access to the internet have been a terrible thing for many of their peers and are adamant that their own future DC will never have them as toddlers/preschoolers and thereafter access will be strictly limited.

Yes, the worst offenders for no headphones etc seems to be adults. I don't often encounter a kid with iPad on full blast.

I absolutely said this too. Until I had kids.

Fortunately my DC have both experienced for themself and then seen with younger siblings that it’s possible to parent DC without resorting to relying on iPads 🤷‍♀️

There should be a massive fine for this, for anyone, not just parents and dc. I’ve been in the quiet coach on a train and had business men taking/making endless calls. Why did you book the fucking quiet coach, you wanker?

There is a difference in “relying” on iPads versus limiting their use and using them for tools of learning as well as entertainment. iPads are also used in primary schools as teaching aids, it’s the modern world we live in.

Unfortunately even if iPads are used in public for educational apps or when the sick 4 year old was is in hospital and didn’t have the energy to play or read sfories all the time for weeks they were in hospital, forgive us parents who are judged by the “better parents” who don’t use them.

I was on a train a few months ago. Two trains had been cancelled so the train was bursting at the seams. To add to the joy there was something wrong on the line and a tw hour journey became near five hours. Almost two year old GC was great for about three hours then started to get restless and I ran out of drink/snacks and GC wanted their lunch. We got to the point where they were about to really kick off, I couldn't have a walk or anything as so many were standing.

I asked the three people I was sharing a table if they'd prefer Bluey or GC kicking off, they could see he was upset and all agreed they'd prefer Bluey. I was very relieved and I did keep the volume low.

Well yes I could have let GC scream, perfectly possible but not pleasant.

@TheignT very good. I’m glad you didn’t travel with any of the posters on this thread, you would have got a lecture!

No, she wouldn’t have, not from me, anyway. It’s an extreme situation and she asked first.

Most train journeys aren’t extreme, and I’ve never heard a single person, including parents, ask other passengers if they mind others being able to hear their device.

@Ddakji you sound like you have completely forgotten what it’s like to have young toddlers to verging on lacking any experience at all…..

im sure you are there on the train with your headphones on that you can’t hear them asking you perhaps….