For thinking that the migrant protests ...

[Ihateboris]

Should be held at the council offices, Government departments, rather than the migrant hotels? After all, it's due to the government's lack of processing that the migrants are there?

Of course not. It's much more effective to harass people who have nothing and can't fight back .....

I hate the protests at hotels, they make me feel sick to my stomach. It's not their fault our admin systems are so slow.

There is an adult conversation to be had about immigration, that doesn’t involve dehumanising people, lumping everyone together as criminals, and exhibiting threatening behaviour.

The people outside the hotels, daubing flags everywhere, and taking us back to 1930s Europe (also see Russia under Stalin, the Khmer Rouge, Pappa Doc etc) where the “othering” of a whole class of people, means that any level of threats towards them become acceptable (and the threats just escalate and escalate)

At the same time these people also blame thier behaviour on someone else … it’s the Migrants fault for being here, is Starmers fault, it’s the Councils fault - it’s so someone else who had made me behave like this - they have zero accountability.

It’s no wonder so many of them have DV convictions.

It does amaze me that a huge portion of those outside hotels claim the asylum seekers are criminal leeches when they themselves are often jobless (hence having time to spend shouting outside), have restraining orders against them, don’t see their kids and are on various ‘registers’.

They’ve got a lot more than the average homeless person.

Not really although I take your point but these hotels are frequently right in the middle of local communities and are the obvious choice of place for those who live there to protest.

Yes, I agree, but that's the fault of the Government, not the migrants.

Indeed, I'm afraid to say, it's a certain type of person that attend these protests. Where would they like them to be homed? HMOs, wondering the streets with tents (like in France)? Be careful what you wish for.

A ‘certain type of person’?
OK.

I don’t agree with the protests outside these hotels, but refuse to vilify people who are often genuinely frightened for themselves, their children and their communities.
Having several hundred men turn up in your town, mostly from cultures that don’t view women in the way we do in the West, and who have nothing to do but loiter around town in groups together must be very disconcerting.

Having empathy for the immigrants is of course desirable, but some empathy for those living with the fall-out from the governmental failures in handling them should also be considered.

So where would you house them ? I'm not being goady by the way.

council offices- won’t help it’s a government issue
government offices- they won’t care standing outside Whitehall- and you can’t go nearly the homes of those in power.

Don't be obtuse. FFS.

Only a third of migrants are currently housed in hotels anyway. The majority are in HMOs, private rented places etc already.

I have no clue!

I’m just saying that I can empathise with the migrants AND the residents who are worried about them being dropped into a community in their hundreds. I don’t think empathy for the migrants should lead to the vilification of people who don’t want to live beside them in this hotel arrangement. I think their fears are real and (to a large extent) justified.

If there was a simple solution, people far cleverer than me would have come up with it by now.

“Don’t view women the way we do in the West” - because women are treated so well here.

I wish these protesters would stop hiding being “protect our women” banner - they have done fuck all protesting over the past decades, as violence towards women and girls has gone up and up. They should just admit that they don’t like people who aren’t white.. then their argument then starts to make sense.

If you think women in the West are treated badly enough to draw a comparison with a LOT of non-Western countries, you really aren’t paying attention well enough.

Oh but they're not racist. Blah blah blah. Yes, right. It is TOTALLY about the colour of their skin.

I’m saying women are treated badly in both.

Racists are using VAWG in order to justify their behaviour, whilst in reality they don’t care about violence against women, as they have done nothing about it for years.

TBH it’s pretty abhorrent

I find this pretty abhorrent.

Im not saying there won’t be racists amongst the crowd (they turn up everywhere, unfortunately), but there are a lot of honestly fearful people in those protests, a lot of them mothers of daughters.
Don’t tar everyone with the same brush.

Totally agree.

Reform have an MP with a conviction for assaulting his girlfriend. But sure, his party will help defend women’s safety - just as soon as they’re done defending their MP for repeatedly kicking a woman.

Don’t tar everyone with the same brush?

That’s pretty rich, since that is exactly what is being done to migrants. They’re all dangerous men with horrible views on women.

Almost half of last summers rioters had been reported for domestic abuse, so suggesting they are attempting to protect women and children with their protests is absurd.

I understand being concerned about large numbers of men, being dropped into a town, when those men come from a culture where women are not afforded the rights and protections that our women are..

But let's call a spade a spade, a good proportion of protesters are just racist.

Mothers and Daughters are much more like it to Sexually Assaulted, Raped, Assaulted or Murdered by a White British Man. If that was te primary concern they would serve themselves better protesting outside lap dancing bars & outside pubs.

Wonder why they are only protesting outside places were non-white men are living ….

It begins with an R

Of course racists are using this problem to their advantage.
Its like Diane Abbott, she says some bloody stupid and on occasion offensive things- but I’m well aware she is ripped to shreds because she’s a black woman.

There is an issue with migrant hotels, I wouldn’t want one next door to me equally the racists are all over it.

I don't remember the outcry when Sarah Everard was brutally murdered by that met police officer? Or the report published regarding dozens of police officers being convicted of rape. (See link). Why were there no mass demonstrations outside the police stations?
news.sky.com/story/dozens-of-police-officers-convicted-of-crimes-including-rape-and-sexual-assault-since-sarah-everards-murder-13086063