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Ihateboris · 2025-08-23T11:35:59+00:00

Should be held at the council offices, Government departments, rather than the migrant hotels? After all, it's due to the government's lack of processing that the migrants are there?

Neighbours87 · 23/08/2025 17:46

ExtraOnions · 23/08/2025 13:51

“Don’t view women the way we do in the West” - because women are treated so well here.

I wish these protesters would stop hiding being “protect our women” banner - they have done fuck all protesting over the past decades, as violence towards women and girls has gone up and up. They should just admit that they don’t like people who aren’t white.. then their argument then starts to make sense.

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I agree with this. Last year half of those arrested for the anti immigrant violence in Belfast had previous domestic violence allegations against them. It’s not about protecting women.

Theunamedcat · 23/08/2025 17:48

Coolasfeck · 23/08/2025 13:20

It does amaze me that a huge portion of those outside hotels claim the asylum seekers are criminal leeches when they themselves are often jobless (hence having time to spend shouting outside), have restraining orders against them, don’t see their kids and are on various ‘registers’.

Now who is lumping people together 🙄

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 17:48

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 17:46

‘amazing, you can’t control the people who are allowed to live here either’
Is it just the UK who can’t control who is allowed to live in their country as you mentioned that you ‘wouldn’t be able to get a visa to live anywhere else’ ?

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This post doesn’t make any sense

BIossomtoes · 23/08/2025 17:51

Theunamedcat · 23/08/2025 17:48

Now who is lumping people together 🙄

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Nobody. A huge portion isn’t all.

Livpool · 23/08/2025 17:51

Coolasfeck · 23/08/2025 13:20

It does amaze me that a huge portion of those outside hotels claim the asylum seekers are criminal leeches when they themselves are often jobless (hence having time to spend shouting outside), have restraining orders against them, don’t see their kids and are on various ‘registers’.

Completely agree - the rest of us are too busy working or caring for others

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 17:53

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 17:48

This post doesn’t make any sense

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You said we can’t control who lives in the UK, but also said you couldn’t live anywhere else as you wouldn’t be able to get a visa. Just wondering what’s special about the UK why they can’t control who lives there.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 17:56

Livpool · 23/08/2025 17:51

Completely agree - the rest of us are too busy working or caring for others

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are you including the masked up antifa supporters in this?

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 17:57

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 17:53

You said we can’t control who lives in the UK, but also said you couldn’t live anywhere else as you wouldn’t be able to get a visa. Just wondering what’s special about the UK why they can’t control who lives there.

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I could go somewhere and live there illegally though couldn’t I? Or fraudulently claim asylum?

I don’t because

i am not fleeing war or persecution
i would prefer to work to earn money and have a lifestyle comparable to the one I have Here
i don’t speak any languages so would find life in a non English speaking country stressful

if I was fleeing war, I’m sure I’d take whatever I could. Luckily, I was born here.

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 18:02

caringcarer · 23/08/2025 17:28

You are ignoring the discounts and sometimes even free passes they they get for swimming, gardening, yoga and other things like similar cards for phone credit. Also so many of them work for places like food delivery even though they should not be working.

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These are just things local businesses offer. It’s up to them if they want to offer it.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 18:03

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 17:57

I could go somewhere and live there illegally though couldn’t I? Or fraudulently claim asylum?

I don’t because

i am not fleeing war or persecution
i would prefer to work to earn money and have a lifestyle comparable to the one I have Here
i don’t speak any languages so would find life in a non English speaking country stressful

if I was fleeing war, I’m sure I’d take whatever I could. Luckily, I was born here.

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‘I could go somewhere and live there illegally though couldn’t I? Or fraudulently claim asylum?’

Could you? I don’t know, you’re the one who wants to leave the UK but can’t because you say you wouldn’t get a visa for another country whilst also claiming the U.K. can’t control who lives here. In my opinion, I don’t think you’ve really thought this through properly.

VaseofViolets · 23/08/2025 18:08

Hibernatingtilspring · 23/08/2025 17:05

@VaseofViolets we actually do better having people move here from abroad, economically speaking. Because the people coming are usually working age adults, who once they are allowed to work, do so.
People keep complaining about the low birth rate and who will pay our pensions - children cost a huge amount (NHS & education). It's much cheaper as a country to move people in who aren't going to drain our resources by being raised here.
The argument about 'we're a small island' isn't based on any actual logic/numbers/data. It's rich people telling us to blame foreigners if there is a housing crisis, instead of blaming the people who got rich by being landlords.

Separate issue, but anyone coming here on a visa route (eg coming to work) has to pay a set charge for the NHS and can't access benefits that a UK citizen would be able to.

Thank you for the reply.

Leaving cultural issues aside, I can see why it would be a temporary economic boon for us to have immigration from younger people capable of working, that makes sense. Is that true if they don’t speak English? Who will teach them? Is their education of a comparable standard? Do they have health conditions that they’ll need support and help in managing? And they will need housing, which is a problem. They’ll want families of their own, their children to be educated, etc. And of course they’ll want to retire at some point. Who will be paying for the pensions? A new wave of young immigrants? It seems like an unsustainable Ponzi scheme, to keep bringing in young people who grow old in their turn.

VaseofViolets · 23/08/2025 18:08

Hibernatingtilspring · 23/08/2025 17:05

@VaseofViolets we actually do better having people move here from abroad, economically speaking. Because the people coming are usually working age adults, who once they are allowed to work, do so.
People keep complaining about the low birth rate and who will pay our pensions - children cost a huge amount (NHS & education). It's much cheaper as a country to move people in who aren't going to drain our resources by being raised here.
The argument about 'we're a small island' isn't based on any actual logic/numbers/data. It's rich people telling us to blame foreigners if there is a housing crisis, instead of blaming the people who got rich by being landlords.

Separate issue, but anyone coming here on a visa route (eg coming to work) has to pay a set charge for the NHS and can't access benefits that a UK citizen would be able to.

Thank you for the reply.

Leaving cultural issues aside, I can see why it would be a temporary economic boon for us to have immigration from younger people capable of working, that makes sense. Is that true if they don’t speak English? Who will teach them? Is their education of a comparable standard? Do they have health conditions that they’ll need support and help in managing? And they will need housing, which is a problem. They’ll want families of their own, their children to be educated, etc. And of course they’ll want to retire at some point. Who will be paying for the pensions? A new wave of young immigrants? It seems like an unsustainable Ponzi scheme, to keep bringing in young people who grow old in their turn.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 23/08/2025 18:11

Coolasfeck · 23/08/2025 13:20

It does amaze me that a huge portion of those outside hotels claim the asylum seekers are criminal leeches when they themselves are often jobless (hence having time to spend shouting outside), have restraining orders against them, don’t see their kids and are on various ‘registers’.

Conversely those people say they can only protest at weekends because they actually are in employment whereas the lefties tend to be students, retired people and those who find employment distasteful.

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 18:11

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 18:03

‘I could go somewhere and live there illegally though couldn’t I? Or fraudulently claim asylum?’

Could you? I don’t know, you’re the one who wants to leave the UK but can’t because you say you wouldn’t get a visa for another country whilst also claiming the U.K. can’t control who lives here. In my opinion, I don’t think you’ve really thought this through properly.

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I think it’s fairly obvious, and that you’re just bitterly trying to barb me (perfect example of that British culture) however, I will explain since it seems hard to grasp:

I would not be able to easily get a visa to a country I would be willing to live in

At the same time:

it is difficult to obtain a visa to move to the uk from another country.

thus:

the uk has has much control over who they grant VISAs to as any other country.
So your question is moot.

I’m sure you realise:

migrants and AS do not come here with visas to live or work here, granted in advance of arrival.

therefore you can not control their entry.

neither can any other country.

the uk is equal to other countries in both their ability to control visas, and their lack of ability to control the entry of asylum seekers

HTh.

Charley50 · 23/08/2025 18:11

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 17:21

on your first point I don’t think the dire financial situation of the uk is related to immigrants. It’s related to late stage capitalism/ neoliberalism.

on culture I don’t believe I control culture. I expect laws and social norms to reflect societal standards. I don’t like a lot of British people and generally I find the culture to be people who are miserable, bitter, Entitled, arrogant and lack responsibility or independence of thought. So I’m not sure what I’m passionate about protecting?

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Wow that’s a lot of self-hate you have going on there @Bambamhoohoo!!

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 18:13

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 18:03

‘I could go somewhere and live there illegally though couldn’t I? Or fraudulently claim asylum?’

Could you? I don’t know, you’re the one who wants to leave the UK but can’t because you say you wouldn’t get a visa for another country whilst also claiming the U.K. can’t control who lives here. In my opinion, I don’t think you’ve really thought this through properly.

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Btw I have never at any point said I want to leave the uk.

I have explained why I wouldn’t.

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 18:14

Charley50 · 23/08/2025 18:11

Wow that’s a lot of self-hate you have going on there @Bambamhoohoo!!

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🤔 that rather depends on my own cultural background I’d imagine?

existessential · 23/08/2025 18:14

TheLizardQueen · 23/08/2025 17:08

There was no other arrests. And the flag that said kill em all is a British army special forces flag for those who don’t know. I believe the man was ex military

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No it isn’t. And it seems to be a different army every time someone says it lmao.

It’s a slogan originating from the crusades and co-opted by neo nazis. Not a good look.

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 18:17

existessential · 23/08/2025 18:14

No it isn’t. And it seems to be a different army every time someone says it lmao.

It’s a slogan originating from the crusades and co-opted by neo nazis. Not a good look.

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Special forces no less this time 😂

like any of the protestors would advertise being ex special forces, even if they were

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 18:20

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 18:11

I think it’s fairly obvious, and that you’re just bitterly trying to barb me (perfect example of that British culture) however, I will explain since it seems hard to grasp:

I would not be able to easily get a visa to a country I would be willing to live in

At the same time:

it is difficult to obtain a visa to move to the uk from another country.

thus:

the uk has has much control over who they grant VISAs to as any other country.
So your question is moot.

I’m sure you realise:

migrants and AS do not come here with visas to live or work here, granted in advance of arrival.

therefore you can not control their entry.

neither can any other country.

the uk is equal to other countries in both their ability to control visas, and their lack of ability to control the entry of asylum seekers

HTh.

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LOL. Just to clarify for any other ‘bitter’ British cultured people who ‘lack responsibility’ reading, what you are actually saying is that the U.K. can control who lives in the UK. We got there in the end. 🙄

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 18:24

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 18:20

LOL. Just to clarify for any other ‘bitter’ British cultured people who ‘lack responsibility’ reading, what you are actually saying is that the U.K. can control who lives in the UK. We got there in the end. 🙄

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Sorry I wasn’t aware you didn't know the uk had a visa system to control who lives here

certainly wasn’t expecting to have to let a grown adult know that on a random Saturday night 😭

ShesTheAlbatross · 23/08/2025 18:26

TheLizardQueen · 23/08/2025 17:21

It was also outside the same hotel where the illegals raped a wee 14 year old local girl!! Can you imagine why people are unhappy?

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Yes, just like they protested outside the police station when it came out last month that police officers in Rotherham raped children as young as 11, and one described how she was forced to comply because they told her that if she didn’t get into their police car (where she was raped), they’d hand her back to the gangs. One of them spoke to a youth worker about being abused by the gangs, and they contacted the police, but the officer who also abused her turned up to interview her, tore her statement up, and nothing happened.

Oh wait. They didn’t protest that at all.

I suppose if the race of the police officers accused comes out and they’re not white, we’ll see the protest. Thousands of children are abused every year. If only these protesters cared about them all.

jeansgenie · 23/08/2025 18:27

Well I hope everyone protesting is fully supporting ID cards then. We get more "illegals" as you call them because they know they can just disappear and not need to self ID to survive. Farage can't have it both ways.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 18:30

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 18:24

Sorry I wasn’t aware you didn't know the uk had a visa system to control who lives here

certainly wasn’t expecting to have to let a grown adult know that on a random Saturday night 😭

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No apology necessary, I enjoyed learning from you.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 18:31

jeansgenie · 23/08/2025 18:27

Well I hope everyone protesting is fully supporting ID cards then. We get more "illegals" as you call them because they know they can just disappear and not need to self ID to survive. Farage can't have it both ways.

ID cards would have countered a lot of the Brexit arguments as well.