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Ihateboris · 2025-08-23T11:35:59+00:00

Should be held at the council offices, Government departments, rather than the migrant hotels? After all, it's due to the government's lack of processing that the migrants are there?

Fairyliz · 23/08/2025 17:14

Coolasfeck · 23/08/2025 13:20

It does amaze me that a huge portion of those outside hotels claim the asylum seekers are criminal leeches when they themselves are often jobless (hence having time to spend shouting outside), have restraining orders against them, don’t see their kids and are on various ‘registers’.

How do you know this, have you seen every single protesters criminal record?
Surely this is the same as saying all asylum seekers are rapists?

Charlize43 · 23/08/2025 17:14

People are angry because cost after cost and bill after bill keeps going up. I think it is displaced anger at the Cost of Living crisis. If the economy was stable as it was say ten years ago, I don't think anyone would be bothered about the migrants.

MPs don't seem to have a clue at what is going on because they are massively overpaid on a salary that is double of the UK average. They really could do with a 50% pay cut and all the claimed expenses cancelled to give them a sense of perspective.

Hibernatingtilspring · 23/08/2025 17:18

The most obviously racist interview I saw with a protester was a man saying 'the problem is they've put them all in this hotel in our community and we don't know who they are, they're not vetted, they could be anyone '

It was like he'd never grasped the concept of living near a hotel before.

TheLizardQueen · 23/08/2025 17:21

TheLizardQueen · 23/08/2025 17:08

There was no other arrests. And the flag that said kill em all is a British army special forces flag for those who don’t know. I believe the man was ex military

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It was also outside the same hotel where the illegals raped a wee 14 year old local girl!! Can you imagine why people are unhappy?

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 17:21

VaseofViolets · 23/08/2025 16:45

I have a genuine question for anyone not opposed to mass immigration, whether legal or illegal, if anyone would like to answer. I’m not really seeing the end point… I’m wondering where people think this will lead us.

If you’re not opposed to large scale immigration - is there a point at which you think the UK will no longer be able to accommodate so many people? The country’s finances are bad way. We’re heading for a financial crash. How will we finance everyone? How will the welfare state survive? Where will all these people live? Who will educate them? Will the NHS cope? Will our infrastructure cope? How will everything be paid for? Will there be a point in the future when the UK stops immigration, or slows it down, and when might that be?

Culturally speaking - when people immigrate, they bring their values and cultural practices with them, some we dislike. Are we obliged to accept them and tolerate them? If so, why? Do you see the UK’s culture changing as a result? How much change is too much? Will there be a point at which the UK we knew has disappeared, and another country taken shape? In other words, do you accept the fact that the culture of the country as a whole will change - what if you yourself dislike it when this happens? Do you believe different cultural groups can be forced to tolerate each other, perhaps by political force? Do you accept that some groups will be negatively affected (young white working class girls/women, for example) but that’s the price to be paid?

I’d be very interested to know, and not in a goady way.

on your first point I don’t think the dire financial situation of the uk is related to immigrants. It’s related to late stage capitalism/ neoliberalism.

on culture I don’t believe I control culture. I expect laws and social norms to reflect societal standards. I don’t like a lot of British people and generally I find the culture to be people who are miserable, bitter, Entitled, arrogant and lack responsibility or independence of thought. So I’m not sure what I’m passionate about protecting?

Swiftie1878 · 23/08/2025 17:23

PandoraSocks · 23/08/2025 16:46

A concerned parent protesting today in Leeds.

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And this is why immigration is a problem in this country. All reasonable discussion and debate is closed down.
You KNOW that there a fair reasons for concern about UK immigration, but would rather shout ‘Racist!’ and avoid the conversation.
Virtue signalling at its finest.

BurntBroccoli · 23/08/2025 17:25

All the England flags that we are seeing are very much coming from the “Raise the Colours” campaign which was created by Andrew Currien (AKA Andy Saxon) ally of Stephen Lennon (AKA Tommy Robinson). Formerly a key member of the English Defence League’s leadership bodyguard team, and now running security for the far-right party Britain First, Currien has previously been jailed for his part in a racist death. He was one of six men convicted in 2009 after a 59-year-old man was crushed to death by a car following a violent brawl.
https://hopenothate.org.uk/2025/08/22/operation-raise-the-colours-organised-by-well-known-far-right-extremists/

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 17:27

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 17:21

on your first point I don’t think the dire financial situation of the uk is related to immigrants. It’s related to late stage capitalism/ neoliberalism.

on culture I don’t believe I control culture. I expect laws and social norms to reflect societal standards. I don’t like a lot of British people and generally I find the culture to be people who are miserable, bitter, Entitled, arrogant and lack responsibility or independence of thought. So I’m not sure what I’m passionate about protecting?

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LOL, are you here for the weather?

caringcarer · 23/08/2025 17:28

poetryandwine · 23/08/2025 14:53

Asylum seekers receive an allowance of just under £50/wk, falling to just under £9/wk if their accommodation provides meals. We’ve all seen the horror stories about some of those meals. They have no rights to employment, bank accounts or certain levels of NHS care.

Street homelessness is complex and awful. Nevertheless all British citizens and permanent residents are eligible for a minimum of £316/mo in UC rising to over £400/mo at age 25, full NHS care, and the right to employment. Almost all of us may hold bank accounts. It can be a difficult devision, but all homeless British citizens and residents may use shelters.

Even busking should get you more than £7/day, the maximum asylum seeker allowance.

How do you see asylum seekers coming out ahead here?

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You are ignoring the discounts and sometimes even free passes they they get for swimming, gardening, yoga and other things like similar cards for phone credit. Also so many of them work for places like food delivery even though they should not be working.

MyNameIsX · 23/08/2025 17:29

Swiftie1878 · 23/08/2025 17:23

And this is why immigration is a problem in this country. All reasonable discussion and debate is closed down.
You KNOW that there a fair reasons for concern about UK immigration, but would rather shout ‘Racist!’ and avoid the conversation.
Virtue signalling at its finest.

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I agree with you.

I would remind posters of the findings of the Jay Report - link below.

www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/download/31/independent-inquiry-into-child-sexual-exploitation-in-rotherham-1997---2013

PandoraSocks · 23/08/2025 17:30

Swiftie1878 · 23/08/2025 17:23

And this is why immigration is a problem in this country. All reasonable discussion and debate is closed down.
You KNOW that there a fair reasons for concern about UK immigration, but would rather shout ‘Racist!’ and avoid the conversation.
Virtue signalling at its finest.

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Where in my post did I call anyone racist?

Reasonable discussion around concerns about immigration is fine. Gathering outside hotels and intimidating the people living there isn't fine in any way at all.

Not sure how posting a photo published today by the Times is "virtue signalling".

genesis92 · 23/08/2025 17:34

Coolasfeck · 23/08/2025 13:20

It does amaze me that a huge portion of those outside hotels claim the asylum seekers are criminal leeches when they themselves are often jobless (hence having time to spend shouting outside), have restraining orders against them, don’t see their kids and are on various ‘registers’.

Ohhhh so it’s only the right that don’t have jobs if they protest? It’s amazing how extinction rebellion, Antifa and all other far left protesters seem to hold down their “full time jobs” as well as making a career out of protesting. The left protest the most, by far.

Turn your brain on

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 17:35

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 17:27

LOL, are you here for the weather?

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No I’m here because I wouldn’t be able to get a visa to live anywhere else and I don’t like travelling.

Swiftie1878 · 23/08/2025 17:35

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 17:21

on your first point I don’t think the dire financial situation of the uk is related to immigrants. It’s related to late stage capitalism/ neoliberalism.

on culture I don’t believe I control culture. I expect laws and social norms to reflect societal standards. I don’t like a lot of British people and generally I find the culture to be people who are miserable, bitter, Entitled, arrogant and lack responsibility or independence of thought. So I’m not sure what I’m passionate about protecting?

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Sounds like you’d welcome a complete shift in the life and culture of Brits.
Instead of wishing to achieve that through immigration here, why not go to a country you like and admire more?

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 17:36

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 17:35

No I’m here because I wouldn’t be able to get a visa to live anywhere else and I don’t like travelling.

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The U.K. is lucky to have you.

Swiftie1878 · 23/08/2025 17:37

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 17:35

No I’m here because I wouldn’t be able to get a visa to live anywhere else and I don’t like travelling.

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Wow. Aren’t we lucky to have you! 🤦🏼‍♀️

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 17:38

Swiftie1878 · 23/08/2025 17:35

Sounds like you’d welcome a complete shift in the life and culture of Brits.
Instead of wishing to achieve that through immigration here, why not go to a country you like and admire more?

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I don’t want to achieve anything about immigration- the question was those who are not opposed to immigration.

I don’t care. I don’t care about boats, I don’t care about hotels. I think a sizeable majority of the country actually don’t care.

as I said above, I wouldn’t be able to move anywhere

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 23/08/2025 17:39

Reasonable discussion around concerns about immigration is fine. Gathering outside hotels and intimidating the people living there isn't fine in any way at all.

This is just good old common sense in action @PandoraSocks and I can't understand how anyone can argue with it. But I'm sure they'll give it a go.

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 17:40

Swiftie1878 · 23/08/2025 17:37

Wow. Aren’t we lucky to have you! 🤦🏼‍♀️

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Sadly, you don’t get to choose, as like those drunk sweaty thugs outside hotels, I was born here.

amazing, you can’t control the people who are allowed to live here either! Maybe that explains the obesssion with immigration. The one little thing we think we can control……

LlttledrummergirI · 23/08/2025 17:40

VaseofViolets · 23/08/2025 16:45

I have a genuine question for anyone not opposed to mass immigration, whether legal or illegal, if anyone would like to answer. I’m not really seeing the end point… I’m wondering where people think this will lead us.

If you’re not opposed to large scale immigration - is there a point at which you think the UK will no longer be able to accommodate so many people? The country’s finances are bad way. We’re heading for a financial crash. How will we finance everyone? How will the welfare state survive? Where will all these people live? Who will educate them? Will the NHS cope? Will our infrastructure cope? How will everything be paid for? Will there be a point in the future when the UK stops immigration, or slows it down, and when might that be?

Culturally speaking - when people immigrate, they bring their values and cultural practices with them, some we dislike. Are we obliged to accept them and tolerate them? If so, why? Do you see the UK’s culture changing as a result? How much change is too much? Will there be a point at which the UK we knew has disappeared, and another country taken shape? In other words, do you accept the fact that the culture of the country as a whole will change - what if you yourself dislike it when this happens? Do you believe different cultural groups can be forced to tolerate each other, perhaps by political force? Do you accept that some groups will be negatively affected (young white working class girls/women, for example) but that’s the price to be paid?

I’d be very interested to know, and not in a goady way.

Being opposed to dehumanising people doesn't mean accepting of mass immigration.

Being opposed to intimidating gatherings outside vulnerable people's homes doesn't mean accepting of mass immigration.
Being opposed to putting people in the same group because of their circumstances doesn't mean accepting of mass immigration.

Being opposed to violent thugs and online agitators doesn't mean accepting of mass immigration.

Being sympathetic to refugees doesn't mean accepting of mass immigration.

Being opposed to the above, doesn't mean you supported the previous government's efforts to enrich their mates by reducing the processing rate so you could pay your mates taxpayer money to house those in the system.

Being opposed to the misinformation, disinformation and hate rhetoric being spread doesn't mean you support mass immigration.

Refusing to be frightened by the invisible bogeyman doesn't mean you support mass immigration.

Don't conflate the two.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 17:41

genesis92 · 23/08/2025 17:34

Ohhhh so it’s only the right that don’t have jobs if they protest? It’s amazing how extinction rebellion, Antifa and all other far left protesters seem to hold down their “full time jobs” as well as making a career out of protesting. The left protest the most, by far.

Turn your brain on

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Left protesters are there as well anyway, they’re the ones in balaclavas and face masks.

Timeforabitofpeace · 23/08/2025 17:43

Well said @LlttledrummergirI

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 23/08/2025 17:45

Agree. Brilliantly put @LlttledrummergirI.

BIossomtoes · 23/08/2025 17:46

I wonder who did all these undesirable jobs you mention before we had large scale mass immigration?

Nobody did them. Before 1948 there was no health service and precious few care homes. Immigration was encouraged because there was a labour shortage. The Windrush generation was invited to come and help rebuild the country.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 17:46

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 17:40

Sadly, you don’t get to choose, as like those drunk sweaty thugs outside hotels, I was born here.

amazing, you can’t control the people who are allowed to live here either! Maybe that explains the obesssion with immigration. The one little thing we think we can control……

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‘amazing, you can’t control the people who are allowed to live here either’
Is it just the UK who can’t control who is allowed to live in their country as you mentioned that you ‘wouldn’t be able to get a visa to live anywhere else’ ?