Marks & Spencers bra fittings and trans women - they've missed the point

[IdaGlossop]

A mother complained to M&S when her daughter was approached in-store by a trans woman asking if she could be of assistance. The daughter needed a bra fitting and was upset as she could see that the member of staff was male. M&S apologised.

Today, in response to the incident, M&S have announced that bra fittings are for biological women only. The solution to the mother's complaint is to not deploy trans women staff in the lingerie department! Banning trans women from having bra fittings discriminates against trans women and doesn't solve the original problem.

YANBU = M&S have messed up with this decision
YABU = Banning trans women from bra fittings protects biological women from being offered bra fittings by trans women staff

www.thepinknews.com/2025/08/18/ms-bra-fitting-trans/

Agree, more than happy for everyone to be reminded of M&S’s gross misogyny

You're new here aren't you OP?

They did review the fitting policy as the SuperTRA rants on X and direct contacts etc provided evidence that the management were opening up their female staff to sexual harrassment from men.

As for providing training so their male staff do not hang out in ladies undies?
Who knows 🤷‍♀️

Are you serious? When Ministry of Justice statistics show that trans-identifying men are twice as likely as other men to commit sex offences? When men use the pretence of 'identifying as a woman' to get off on listening to women urinating? And have you read the accounts by TiMs themselves of having started out by stealing their mother's or sister's underwear? Do wake up.

Nooooo. Surely they wouldn't lie?

I stand corrected. I had thought (from a couple of years ago) that a space mattered to the meaning of the word. I'm very glad it doesn't!

Oh. No worries. The space matters to some people. But not in the meaning.

The space matters hugely to some people because it allows people to play with language and make the ‘trans’ part of the compound noun into an adjective. They use it when they say trans women are just another women like ‘tall’ women.

this tells me you know nothing about trans people Holy molly When you do feminising hrt you grow breasts like have you not done your own research on trans Do you even know what gender dysphoria is

and do you hear yourself You do realise some women might be weirdos or something Does that mean that we should ban all women from getting a bra fitted and i'm you're saying your friend works in a court and see that in that court There's not very nice people in there that's like saying I went to a prison and there was bad people in there

if it was a CIS woman would it be Assault on a Child Plus she wasn't unaccompanied

Oh yeah i'm so very sorry if with tits needs to get a bra fitted regardless of gender Whether that be a trans woman a trans man or any other person I think you're forgetting that a lot of the population have tits I need bras Not just trans women and sis women you probably haven't even taken into account what intersex person is

Ooh, I think I've filled about half the bingo card just from this morning!

Yep and resurrecting a 4 month old thread just to lecture us on our transphobia because we dont want men in our spaces or women being forced to touch some creepy blokes moobs

And totally disregarding all rules of traditional grammar and spelling in the process 😁

Ah well you see your problem here is that we HAVE done our research.

not every person claiming to be trans has gender dysphoria and even if they do as males they cannot demand access to naked female bodies as part of their coping mechanism. That doesn’t work for us. We’re saying no.

It's still a NO!

Oh a scolding, how exciting!

I cant commment on that 🫢

But I will bet the Marks and Spencer M&S SM team will be just delighted to see the question of why M&S management are allowing their female staff be subjected to sexual harrassment pop up again this morning. 💅

I’m sure there are “specialist shops” that males who want to up and wear a bra can go to for assistance. They don’t belong in women’s spaces such as getting a bra fitting from a poor unsuspecting woman just trying to do her job. Trans women are males and need to either use an online service or a shop which offers a specific service for males like them.

If they dislike and fight against this then they are just showing typically male behaviour in not caring about actual women and only seeking their own satisfaction and treating women like props.

Mwa ha ha.

🤷‍♀️

M&S SM staff can test how effective fluffy pillows are for protection when placed on desk keyboards or over screens?
🤕 👀

I've heard that they don't even need a shop.

Wasn't there a trans woman who claimed that his work colleagues gave him their spare bras?

@lifeturnsonadime 😂 let’s just file that under things they fantasize will happen but would never ever actually happen.

They are hurting women if they, as biological men insert themselves into womens spaces

So what? Lots of fat men have tits too. None of them have the right to insist women measure them for bras.