To think Corbyn despises Britain?

[JamesMacGill]

When I was a bit more ‘sixth form politics’ I used to really like Jeremy Corbyn, thought he was a genuine alternative to fatcats, warmongers and austerity enthusiasts.

Now I’ve grown up a little but still follow him on social media. I’ve become increasingly concerned about his almost obsessive coverage of Gaza, to the exclusion of almost everything else that affects Britain. He posts repeatedly commemorating virtually every event where he perceives Britain to have been an oppressor, while rarely acknowledging the reverse.

Today it’s Hiroshima, and while I don’t think anyone is going to delight in the deaths of civilians regardless of whether they were an ally or not, it just feels at this stage that he actively dislikes Britain and exclusively sympathises with anyone who was/is against us. As usual he is very clear in naming America as the nuke dropping aggressor, yet on 7/7 his post only referenced ‘bombings’ and how ‘all faiths came together’. No mention of the aggressors there, or even that it was an act of terrorism.

I think he has gone far beyond simply viewing things through a global, objective lens and the thought of him becoming PM (unlikely but you never know) brings me out in a cold sweat.

AIBU?

Same.

Apparently Labour are taking away allotments and Jezza has one, so I think that shows a pro-UK sentiment in him and an anti-UK sentiment in the government that means I am conflicted, as usual. This government has a terrible fear of growing food which I find quite scary though.

I have no intention of risking my life for Britain. I wouldn’t lift a finger to defend a country that hates itself, is ashamed of its past and has completely lost its identity. The left have won. They’ve got what they wanted. They’ve used mass immigration to impose a new identity on us, and they’ve used the publishing industry to demonise our national heroes and ridicule our history. Just talk a stroll around the history section of Waterstones. It might as well be re-named the ‘how Britain ruined the world’ section. I’ve long since given up on Radio 4. The final straw was a programme on Jane Austen. Within five minutes the guests were talking about sugar plantations, and that was it, they spent the rest of the programme discussing colonialism and slavery. The left have created a new country with a new identity, and THEY can go and defend it. Owen Jones can go fight. In fact, all those smug, sneering Oxbridge liberals can go. Good luck when you’ve got Owen Jones and Stewart Lee and Louis Theroux as the first line of defence.😀

'Apparently he's a good constituency MP'

He's a good enough MP for some of his constituents, but not for those who do not meet his cookie-cutter model of political worthiness, e.g. white middle classes from whence he came.

His election team in 2024 fought a particularly dirty campaign to discredit the official Labour Party campaign. Left a sour taste.

Corbyn is on his last lap in Islington. He may or may not be voted in again as an independent.

Good luck when you’ve got Owen Jones and Stewart Lee and Louis Theroux as the first line of defence

LOL

It’s bloody marvellous this lunatic is creating a new party, creates the perfect path for left wing decimation

They might have won the battle, but they certainly haven’t won the war. The war is coming

I'm fascinated to hear how "spoke about the Hiroshima bombing" and "opposes the Gaza genocide" equate to hating Britain.

Does loving Britain have to exclude those things?

Untrue about the allotments. Even the National Allotment Society says so.

https://www.localgov.co.uk/Editors-Comment-Are-councils-selling-off-allotments/62815

It’s almost as though there is yet another smear campaign starting!

Sometimes posters on here write something so clearly disingenuous, you know it’s not worth explaining yourself - they already know, they just want to frame it through an utterly nonsensical lens.

It feels like ‘something’ is coming. I think last summer’s rioting will pale in comparison to whatever that something is - we now have regular protests in market towns and suburbs, I have never ever seen this before. The momentum just doesn’t seem to be fading off in the way it usually does.

It is getting a bit chilly at night now. Rioters don't like getting cold.

I don't think Corbyn hates Britain. He hates the USA which (for all its flaws, particularly the underclass) is the world's great power and leader in technology. He can't forgive the USA for achieving this status via capitalism because he believes that socialism is inevitable (an old Militant Labour slogan), even though it has never worked properly anywhere it's been tried.

Rather than change his mind, he has dedicated his life to proving that the USA is the bad guy and that their opponents such as Iran, Russia and Hamas are misunderstood. He was allowed to stay in Labour for decades as an irrelevance, until the party membership succumbed to the sentimental view that they had lost in 2015 because they weren't radical enough. That wasn't the case, it was because Cameron did OK in his first term - I think we can say that now after the last ten years of turmoil - and incumbent PMs don't get ejected unless they are struggling.

His leadership of Labour ultimately reduced them to their worst result for 80 years. "Oh, Jeremy Corbyn!" was a bit of fun at a music festival, not a political realignment. And the OP is right in that he is just a classic protest politician. So why worry about him?

Thatcher was having talks with her 'enemy'- people who were not on her side and tried to kill her. She was also Prime Minister so was in a position to influence change in policy. Corbyn was talking to his friends and promising them things he could not deliver. He also had no place being there. he was not a member of the government or on any cross party committees. he was a constituency MP of a London constituency. That was it.

The idea that "the left" have imposed high immigration is a bit of a stretch...

It's definitely true that Tony Blair embraced immigration and multiculturalism but he is also, notably, the most centrist Labour PM there has ever been (pre Blair, Labour were immigration-skeptical). The biggest surge we've seen in net immigration was under the Tories, post-Brexit.

On a per year basis, Net Migration under Blair and Brown averaged around 200,000.

Under the Tories (Cameron, May, Johnson and Sunak) it more than doubled - closer to 425,000 per year - and it'd be closer to 500,000 if you excluded the Covid years.

You're confusing views on racism with immigration policy.

Hello Labour Party HQ, how you doing?

Could you give me more details about the Jane Austen program, please? I’m a real Janeite, and I must have missed it.

I think it's good to be critical of one's cpuntry in order to affect change for the better.

The 'genocide' (incorrect) that his 'friends' Hamas started, and whose terrorist attacks he refuses to denounce, even on 8 Oct when they were still raiding homes and butchering civilians?

The context was that this was to the exclusion of all else.

I am more fascinated in how someone as post-national as Corbyn would propose to build anything good or sustainable with the smoking embers of what his and his fellow travellers have so fervently sought to destroy.

This is true, the Boriswave spectacularly overshot anything Corbyn would ever have dreamt of in terms of migration to the UK. I think the mistake is seeing the Conservatives as right wing. They are not. There are no viable right wing alternatives in the UK. Not even Reform. The Conservatives are liberals. And it is various flavours of that or nothing which is on offer.

Oh yes and we never had to house any of those 200k in hotels did we? or have them cross the channel in small boats.

The 'right wing gave us Brexit and migration went from approx 200k to 1m in the final years of the Sunak Govt, many of whom were dependents, children/parents....

Only falling back to 400k under the so called "Left.... still too high imho.

But Corbyn is the problem....

I think I can say, with 100% confidence, that OP is not Labour Party HQ

I think it's good that Jeremy.Corbyn and Zarah Sultana have started a new party from the grass roots up, we need a party for the people paid for with membership, we had £millions from membership, as billionaires with their own agenda are for Labour, Conservative and Reform.

I like and many.others like the polices from 2017 2019 they are not that radical mainstream in other countries. In 2019 Corbyn got more votes than Starmer in 2024 Starmer won by default as conservatives so bad.

We need to keep to the non proliferation treaty, spending billions on weapons and not welfare.
The arms manufacturer are pushing governments to spend on weapons so that means we have to have wars to use them up then make more. So it continues

The antisemitism was a scam used by stafers in the party to bring him down. And by the MSM. See The Labour Files.

Corbyn and Zarah and the party won't let that happen this time.

As for Gaza what horrific war crimes and starvation ethnic cleansing is being used by Isreal with impunity who want all of Palestine.

It didn't all start on October 7th for decades Isreal has been taking more and more land killing Palestinians. The UK has been complicit by sending spy planes there and giving Isreal real time intelligence, arms and diplomatic cover shameful our government to be participating in the genocide of the Palestinians.

I have signed up for the new party

The antisemitism was a scam used by stafers in the party to bring him down

Awww was it really? Poor Jezza. Shame the Equality and Human Right Commission disagreed with you.

https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/media-centre/news/investigation-antisemitism-labour-party-finds-unlawful-acts-discrimination-and