To think Corbyn despises Britain?

[JamesMacGill]

When I was a bit more ‘sixth form politics’ I used to really like Jeremy Corbyn, thought he was a genuine alternative to fatcats, warmongers and austerity enthusiasts.

Now I’ve grown up a little but still follow him on social media. I’ve become increasingly concerned about his almost obsessive coverage of Gaza, to the exclusion of almost everything else that affects Britain. He posts repeatedly commemorating virtually every event where he perceives Britain to have been an oppressor, while rarely acknowledging the reverse.

Today it’s Hiroshima, and while I don’t think anyone is going to delight in the deaths of civilians regardless of whether they were an ally or not, it just feels at this stage that he actively dislikes Britain and exclusively sympathises with anyone who was/is against us. As usual he is very clear in naming America as the nuke dropping aggressor, yet on 7/7 his post only referenced ‘bombings’ and how ‘all faiths came together’. No mention of the aggressors there, or even that it was an act of terrorism.

I think he has gone far beyond simply viewing things through a global, objective lens and the thought of him becoming PM (unlikely but you never know) brings me out in a cold sweat.

AIBU?

Not at all. He jumped on bandwagons that were on their way and has been very much on the wrong side on lots of things, most recently antisemitism.

or inviting ex ira prisoners to the HOP just weeks after the Brighton Bombing

that was utterly disgraceful I think people forget (regardless of how you feel about the ira and the thatcher led government of the time) this was an attack on our democracy

the man is an agitator

I'm no Jeremy Corbyn fan girl, but I really don't understand what you are banging on about OP. He doesn't come across as hating Britain at all, just recognising that we had a part to play in some of these historical and current issues and we should not forget that.

I find it far more stomach turning when people get patriotic and proud of Britain oppressing people in history. I just find it odd that you would be proud of other people's suffering.

I do think this new party is a result of removing the whip from MPs who seem to actually want to defend the rights of their constituents. It baffles me, as to me, this is not a show of strength, just a desperate attempt to keep your MPs in line. I was angry when this happened to my MP - he is a good MP for his constituents - but that seems to be less important than doing as you are told. I've lost any respect for Labour because of this. It's weak.

Of course he doesn’t-don’t be silly.

But he only ever acknowledges the pain and suffering of other countries. Why lead a country you’re so ashamed of when you don’t have the public’s best interests at heart?

Thank you for your stunning input!

No. I think Corbyn isn't up to it (but who is right now?) but I definitely don't think he despises Britain. In fact, I think that like some on the right, though in a different way, he 'wants our country back' without having much practical idea of how to achieve it.

For real contempt for Britain, look nor further than right-wing columnists and influencers fulminating about how Britain is going to hell in a handbasket, and we are the laziest most entitled people in the world, and we need to be more like Trump's America.

I’ve seen you on other threads. And I’ve read your OP. That’s all you’re getting.

Proven smear campaign against Corbyn.
https://revsoc21.uk/2020/01/20/jeremy-corbyn-and-the-ira-smears/Jeremy Corbyn and the IRA smears – rs21 – revolutionary socialism in the 21st century

There's a really interesting programme on BBC Sounds called "Sideways", featuring a very impressive Ukranian pacifist and conscientious objector. There have always been pacifists in wartime, and they haven't shirked from dangerous work, either - in WW2, though they wouldn't fight, many were in the front lines in the Friends Ambulance Service.

There are many proven smear campaigns against Corbyn. That was one of them.

I think he does too. He’s an odious horrible man.

I don't know about "hates Britian" I imagine he doesn't think he hates it.

I think he has fallen prey to the left wing idea that anyone who is seen as being higher in a power hierarchy - and they are always simplistic power hierarchies - cannot be really good and is always the baddie. And that anyone lower in the power hierarchy is always good and never a baddie.

And it seems the higher ups can only atone for this through constant confession of wrongdoing.

In these models Britain and the west are always the oppressors, the fact that many other nations have violent, authoritarian, oppressive governments and even cultures sometimes simply doesn't compute.

Why do you think that?

I think you’re the only one seeing it that way.

Also the difference in death toll probably played a part in the different weight given.

A quick Google shows approx 150,000 and 246,0000 civilian were killed in the bombings which is an astronomical number.

😂😂😂😂
Yes, everything that mob says is the absolute truth!

Margarite Thatcher authorised high level talks with the IRA in the 80s, which led to the GFA... which ended the violence.

I don't recall her being vilified for that.

Obviously people in both Tory and Labour governments were involved n negotiation to being about peace in Northern Ireland. Corbyn nothing constructive to further peace. He was completely marginal.

Deck chairs + titanic.

Labour clearly have bigger problems.

A pacifist who refuses to denounce fundamentalist terrorism? Doesn't sound very pacifistic

I don't disagree but if Thatcher was having talks with the IRA, then he cannot he criticised for doing the same.

Ha ha we agree again.... this is starting to be a habit....

Shall we aim for the hat trick?

Have a great evening.

Of course he can. He had no authority, no power, no function and no real commitment to the peace process. His talking to the IRA achieved absolutely nothing.

https://labour-uncut.co.uk/2015/08/07/the-idea-that-jeremy-corbyn-laid-the-foundations-for-peace-in-northern-ireland-is-total-fantasy/