To think Corbyn despises Britain?

[JamesMacGill]

When I was a bit more ‘sixth form politics’ I used to really like Jeremy Corbyn, thought he was a genuine alternative to fatcats, warmongers and austerity enthusiasts.

Now I’ve grown up a little but still follow him on social media. I’ve become increasingly concerned about his almost obsessive coverage of Gaza, to the exclusion of almost everything else that affects Britain. He posts repeatedly commemorating virtually every event where he perceives Britain to have been an oppressor, while rarely acknowledging the reverse.

Today it’s Hiroshima, and while I don’t think anyone is going to delight in the deaths of civilians regardless of whether they were an ally or not, it just feels at this stage that he actively dislikes Britain and exclusively sympathises with anyone who was/is against us. As usual he is very clear in naming America as the nuke dropping aggressor, yet on 7/7 his post only referenced ‘bombings’ and how ‘all faiths came together’. No mention of the aggressors there, or even that it was an act of terrorism.

I think he has gone far beyond simply viewing things through a global, objective lens and the thought of him becoming PM (unlikely but you never know) brings me out in a cold sweat.

AIBU?

No interest in the victims of grooming gangs, in fact Sarah Champion had to resign for speaking out about them.

He loves Islamists and he hates Britain, I'm very much looking forward to watching him fail again. He can count on votes from child groomers, terrorists and their supporters though. 600000 and counting.

What attack has the UK suffered on the scale of Hiroshima/Nagasaki?

Even the Blitz in WW2 wasn't anything like the scale we did to German cities.

I'm not sure why you wish to minimise these horrors that the West has done to others, perhaps with good reason but thats of little comfort to people vaporised in nuclear blasts or firestorms.

On hatred for Britain, i believe members of the Royal Family have been to German cities to remember the dead of Dresden etc.

The only person/party that hates the UK is Farage and Reform... bonkers hat someone who claims that Corbyn hates the UK, cheers for Reform.

I'd also add a few Tories to those that hate the UK too, the supporters of Austerity have caused untold damage to the UK.

When Corbyn was leader of the Labour Party it was a gift to the Conservatives, now he is set up another party he is yet again a gift to the right as he will assist splitting the vote, just like Farage did with the Conservatives.

I agree with all that, except that he definitely was seen that way in London. As was Dianne Abbott.

The people were the same. The official founding date doesn’t reflect reality, as they all worked together on making him party leader.

I know someone high up in the Leave campaign and they very much put their success on Corbyn’s shoulders

i also know the pro remain group of constituents who tried to talk to him and he wouldn’t - as a constituent MP he won’t listen to views he doesn’t agree with. And if that’s the majority view in the constituency then he won’t represent it in parliament.

but just as we have a new party on the right I think it will be good to balance that with a new party on the left and open up more (respectful) debate which will hopefully lead us back to a good equilibrium

Because I think the leader of the UK shouldn’t be heavily invested in working against our interests in the name of suicidal empathy.

I don’t support Reform so that’s irrelevant to me.

My DM is an old school, CND, Greenham Common, leftwing feminist activist, and she can't stand Corbyn for all the good reasons expressed here. I do my own thinking but that tells me a lot.

bless he is trying to recreate the days when he was seen by some as the saviour of left wing politics and look where that lead to a massive Tory majority

this is such an ego trip for Corbyn there is already an well established left wing party that he sits (and always has done) very comfortably in the Socialist Labour Party

he is the gift that keeps on giving to the right and continues to be a thorn on the side for the Labour PM

this is his contribution to UK politics

Add to this the supporters of privatisation and profit, hence ridiculous energy bills and polluted rivers and seas while the energy and utility companies make fortunes.

As usual he is very clear in naming America as the nuke dropping aggressor, yet on 7/7 his post only referenced ‘bombings’ and how ‘all faiths came together’. No mention of the aggressors there, or even that it was an act of terrorism.

Err, they were BRITISH.

That's a fair point. Initially it was his gang (McDonnell, him, Abbott) who put him forward. People's Assembly was important too.

But it was a terrorist act. He wouldn’t name that would he? And even less the backers of those attacks. He’s incredibly slippery.

He isn't going to become PM. He got very near to it in 2017 due to Theresa May's woeful election campaign. However, he could certainly facilitate the election of a Reform government due to splitting the left-wing vote.

He has always been a passionate advocate for Palestinians, ever since he became an MP in 1983. He isn't really my cup of tea as I found him tetchy and' holier than thou' and I don't think he is particularly intelligent (unlike John McDonnell who I much preferred).

He is free to advocate for the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank as he doesn't care about keeping the USA/Trump as an ally. He is a pacifist which has always been viewed with suspicion and would want to unilaterally give up the UK's nuclear weapons and would immediately stop selling arms to Israel.

I don't think that he despises Britain. He just has a very different vision for the UK than other politicians. I wouldn't vote for his party, unless I needed to vote tactically to keep Reform out. However, I doubt that his new party will put up a candidate in my constituency, a former Red Wall seat.

He is obviously a good constituency MP as he was voted in when he stood as an Independent candidate after being expelled from the Labour party.

You think it is wrong for a party leader to be aware of and comment on worldwide issues?

Or that if someone cares about children dying in Gaza then it proves they 'don't care about the UK'?

That's a bizarre logic.

I am not his biggest fan but I can't see anything wrong about posting on social media about Gaza and Hiroshima.

Radicalised Muslims from immigrant families. Anti west terrorists.

I am unfortunate enough to be his constituent and I think the reason he got back in was because Labour fielded completely the wrong candidate and put people’s backs up. They are going to have to do a lot better picking a candidate at the next election.

momentum were the only people who knocked on my door during the campaign and were very polite but couldn’t answer some of my questions on his position on things. Labour only turned up on my doorstep on election day to ask if I’d voted yet and would I be voting for them

How is remembering Hiroshima and condemning Israeli actions in Gaza, working against our interests?

Esp when Corbyn isn't or leader nor will he be, he'll be 80yo by the time of the next GE.

The former Tory Govt really work against all our interests, no thread from you on that was there?

That's not logic at all and not what the op said.

Well what would you conclude if somebody who wanted to lead a country and its citizens could hardly bear to acknowledge any history sympathetic to us, but practically foamed at the mouth to repeatedly relive anything that wasn’t?

I don’t know any other country leader that does this, unless you do?

He's too old.
Lost a few elections.
I think you can have principles and policies but actually being in government is very different.

Thank you! Very well said.

At least corbyn splits the vote, making it less likely we’ll have a labour gvt again. Good work.

Thats only your opinion.

Like i said, he'll be 80 in 4 years time.

Yes. 💯 correct