To be appalled at Catherine Zeta-Jones' face?

[Supercompetitivesibling]

We've been waiting to watch season two of Wednesday and when we saw it today we were all really shocked at the state of CZJ's face. My children struggled to recognise her!
She's obviously had a facelift between S1 and S2, but it was really badly done. Her lips are all stretched out and her eyes are pulled up to her hairline. She looks like she is heading into Jocelyn Wildenstein territory.
It's really sad, because she was always such a pretty woman and it was good to see an older woman (not 20-something) looking amazing in a TV show.

What? It's a normal action to call someone's alleged face alterations 'appalling' - what world do you live in? I'm not her PR by the way, just a normal person who doesn't believe in being nasty.

I voted YANBU. Because while I don’t have any issues per se with plastic surgery in principle (or CZJ face in particular), as obviously their face, their choice - I must admit I find the state of many actors faces distracting now (male and female).

It’s not even just older actors - many in Hollywood now seem to have foreheads that don’t move, puffy checks compared to the rest of their face and/or stretched and overly full lips etc. I guess it’s just a new kind of beauty trend - maybe I’d have been just as distracted by the overly plucked brows of the starlets of yesteryear if I watched more old films?

But I must admit I do often prefer to watch Hollywood TV and film from the pre-2010’s when surgery/fillers just didn’t seem so obvious. Or UK film/tv where for the most part, it doesn’t seem quite as bad yet (or at least generally a bit more subtle). Perhaps selfishly I don’t want to be distracted from the dialogue or the cinematography by some actors “interesting” looking face! 😳

Raoul Julia?

I'm sorry to say she looks likee she had had a lot of work. If we hadn't normalised this sort of look people would be horrified. But now it's not as bad as some others so we think it's alright.

It's your bog standard Hollywood face. Don't look young, don't look old either, just like you've had some work done. It's the uniform of being a celebrity it seems.

At least it's a face lift and not fuck loads of fillers.

I would NEVER EVER say something like what @Supercompetitivesibling posted out loud, not to mention making a public post about it.

So, no - I can’t say I have.

And I’m not Jesus - obviously.

Gomez in Wednesday actually looks far closer to the Charles Addams original character than previous actors did.

Catherine Zeta jones like many actresses has probably had a bit of work done but she does get a lot of make up on her in Wednesday to look more like Mortica. She still looks great in real life.

Seriously, OP using the word appalled really doesn't warrant the clutching.

I can understand why that word felt appropriate in the heat of the moment for OP.

It is appalling that women are butchering their faces. And it is appalling when people we recognise start morphing into something from the animal kingdom. That's not being deliberately callous. It's incredibly unsettling.

I think she looks ok in that picture Racoon posted - and it's because that stretched to fook look is becoming normalised to me I think.

Yes she's still beautiful, amazing, stunning and brave. Yet let's be allowed to reflect on the discomfort. It doesn't mean she is an appalling human being in any way.

Yes - thanks, thought I’d posted his name as a ps a couple of minutes later but perhaps I didn’t press ‘post’ 🙈

I've said exactly the same, it's pathetic to keep posting that.

Gomez = Raul Julia, no one else can come close imo so it doesn’t matter how many others have played him.

Let us take a moment and be thankful that we don't work in industries where we have to mutilate our bodies, at great risk to ourselves, to ensure we continue to get work. I can't imagine living like that. I doubt all that many celebs do is for shallow reasons of their own. It's because the entire industry is shallow, and those who "age gracefully" either don't get work, or just get the role of batty grandma until they retire.

Btw I agree that woman can't win. "Age gracefully" yet if a celebrity woman actually dares to, she gets horrible comments.
What is actually seems to mean is have procedures but ensure they're subtle.

Look at all the flak Judy Finnegan gets.

Years ago I saw a post that said Prince Philip "looks a bugger" - the guy was about 95. Was he supposed to have had Botox, fillers, hair transplant?

I hadnt noticed anything unusual about her in Wednesday, still looks like herself to me.
I haven't seen her irl though. Can't judge from Morticia as I think she is supposed to look abit fake and unexpressive, isnt she?

I don't rate Anjelica Houston as Morticia. Fabulous Miss Battle-Axe, though!

To be fair, I don't envy women like her. She was the most utterly stunning woman in her prime so it must be tough losing your looks compared with, for example; me 😅

Wouldn't mind her money, but not the pressure to look perfect.

When I think about the disparity in aesthetic ageing between men and women, this is the couple that comes to mind. He probably looks slightly younger, less lived in, Judy looks absolutely fine, just older and a woman who has birthed children.

She seems to be comfortable as does he which is refreshing.

I don't understand why men aesthetically age better from an evolution perspective when women are judged on their appearance before anything else.

It makes me think that from a reproduction perspective only, couples aren't possibly meant to be monogamous together past child rearing...so men can continue to propogate their seed with a new fertile next option 🤮. I'm digressing way too much 😆

I started the second series of Wednesday tonight and it is noticeable. I'm not judging her for it but there's no point pretending either. Though I don't think the makeup is helping - they've given her the palest eyebrows going. She's got a stunning face and the character has pitch black hair, she needs stronger eyebrows.

Were you looking, perhaps, at her persona in Wednesday where she looks quite funereal?

I think she's a very beautiful woman, and it's hard as PP say to grow old gracefully as a celebrity, especially as female whose looks are very much part of her success.

I think if it's been done well, her face-lift should be enhancing her looks, which personally I think it does.

I remember being compared to her when I was an 18 year old and in the audience of Who Wants to Be A Millionaire. My godfather won £500k and my dad was one of the "phone a friends". For some reason, the camera and production crew decided that they would rather keep showing me and the other girl who was the daughter of the other friend on call, and we were taking up more air time than Pete Lee in the hot seat 😳😆😂 A journo for the Daily Express compared me to C Z-J and mentioned I was subtle variations on the theme of Catherine....praise indeed 😆😂 I couldn't see it myself, but being compared to a beautiful star like her made my week at the time - so I don't like to hear anything bad said about her 😄😅

Are you sure thats not just makeup etc for the programme? Because l watched her on The one show and she looked gorgeous and natural.

Unkind

You may not be Jesus, but you are certainly acting as if you are.

Unkind. There are SO many other things to be appalled by in the world right now, namely the genocide in Gaza. Throw your energy into making the world a better place OP.