Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

[Holmints]

I’m seeing this so much on social media. People screaming from the rooftops how they love their bodies. Hate comments come and they combat them with body positivity, I admired them so much.

Lately though, the very people who were oh-so-body-positive are popping back up five stone lighter. Some comment on it and some don’t, as if they’re waiting for people to ask. Hang on a minute, I thought you loved your big body? Did you love being fat or not?

People who don't LIKE themselves don't spend £££s on themselves and their own wellbeing by buying WLIs,

You have to have high hopes for yourself to have a long and happy life if you're investing that kinda cash in yourself and your longevity!

If I was SOOOO miserable fat, why would I say "I want to stick around and live this life of mine for as long as I can"?

Sorry for the thread ambush. I have a lot of feelings on this subject. Just be glad you didn't try me on this in person right now!

I am not dim at all. How low of you to resort to calling someone stupid.

The 1.1 grade that I achieved in my Bachelors degree makes me know that I am not dim at all.

Any ‘effect’ of the jabs (which btw have been used by the NHS for years) will be hugely outweighed by the health benefits of not being obese or overweight.

It’s crazy to think the right option is to remain overweight or obese because one might be worried about a side effect of the jabs. Remaining fat out of choice is in reality a choice of massively increasing your probability of serious ill health. There is hardly a single illness which isn’t more likely if you are overweight.

The risk of getting breast cancer, for example, is hugely affected by being overweight. It’s almost the single biggest factor - along with smoking and drinking. It’s not just about living longer - it’s about living a well life without chronic illnesses.

Yes they do go around bribing doctors.

There are many reported instances.

That's so true, you can do easily be a little home body when you're invisibly fat. People don't even remember you enough to decide to not invite you when you're un-fun shaped, so you don't even have to make excuses. You can be in your cosy bubble.

E.g. I worked in an office that had a monthly wine and nibbles night where people who had left the office had a catch up with people who were still there. I HAD been there when the people who left used to work there. Never got invited. Made plenty of small talk about it "oh how is X doing in her new job?" Etc..

I was never invited. I didn't actually mind I was able to cop out, no drama.

When I LOST weight, then it got awkward:
Are you coming? You never come, you should come this time!
No I'm not invited
OF COURSE YOU ARE
Nope
YES YOU ARE
I'm not in the chat, check.
Why did you leave? I'll re add you
I didn't leave, I was never added
YES YOU WERE IM SURE YOU WERE, I've re added you so you have to come next time

And now, I don't WANT to go on principle!

Absolutely no way have you got a first class degree and can't understand how to cite an accurate source. I believe that as much as I believe the claim about your mums mythical doctor.

And yet, you've yet to be able to find any instances of this to support your point.

If you're not dim then you're doing a fabulous impersonation of being so.

Was your <cough> degree <cough> in Applied Conspiracy Theory?

Yep

This type of medication has already been around and in use for YEARS.

We already know about the risks and side effects, and thus how to balance them with the risks of remaining obese. We already know the side effects after YEARS of them being reported on, and as such can chose to use WLIs in sensible ways that minimise and mitigate the side effects. (There are always groups that abuse anything, see for example: FOOD!)

Do not speak at us like we're bloody teenagers insisting that vaping is FINE because none of our friends got sick from them YET.

Most users of WLIs are WELL into adult hood. They're extremely popular amongst menopausal women. Who for the most part aren't idiots or naive children!

I have already provided several.

How many more do you want?

Im not dim. You are just rude.

Just one that actually shows DOCTORS are being BRIBED will do.

No way have I got a first class degree?

Lol.

I will just look at my Degree cert and laugh at your crazy posts

Here is one.

The title is "Irish doctors received 5 million in secret payments from drug firms"

https://extra.ie/2020/01/05/news/irish-news/doctors-secret-payments-drug-firms

Another example is wedding invites

Fat: people act relieved if you RSVP no
They'll chase your RSVP early but it's always phrases like "no worries if you can't come we just need to know the final numbers sooner rather than later" - actively inviting you to decline.

And there's no repercussions when a fat woman declined, nobody cries to their aunties who then phones you up to ask why you aren't coming.

Declining when you're slim though, in the first instance it's assumed you ARE going. So when you decline it's 😯 and their aunties tell your aunties how upset the couple are that you can't make it ... People try to problem solve your excuse. Suddenly you have babysitters coming out your ears so you can make it after all!

You are stepping into a light that you might not have asked for when you slim down.

And honestly, I think it's made me deliberately regain weight whenever I've lost it before.

WLIs really shine in the maintenance stage though and I have been able to use them to keep me going through the adjustment periods where before I woulda gone "f-CK this I don't really want this"!

Lol at you choosing a country that's been YEARS BEHIND most in WLI roll out. They've only recently gone on public sale there! I think Mounjaro has only been available for a few months there!

There is a huge difference between being a sales rep and giving bribes.

I have posted yet another article above of how pharmaceutical companies are bribing doctors.

I can only speak for myself. I have been obese since primary school, first went to weight watchers when I was 11yrs old, and weighed over 11 stone by that point. My weight matched my age until I maxed out at around 21/22 stone.

The first bullies decided my weight was fair game and I should be tortured for it when I was 8, they kept switching out for new bullies and new ways to make my life miserable until I left college at 18, but any gaps were filled by random strangers hurling insults out car windows as they drove past or calling me a fat ugly bitch for no reason at all as I walked down the street on a night out.

I tried over and over and over and over again to , every diet, every doctors suggestion, I was desperate to not be a target. But publicly and verbally I maintained a happy go lucky, oh so positive attitude, I put on a big personality persona, I made sure I was the best at my job, I was the one everyone wanted to work with, I gave them no reason except my fatness to dislike me or see me as inferior.

Then last year after ignoring all my health symptoms because I was too busy being the best at work, and knew that the answer would just be ‘you need to lose weight’ if I went to the doctors, I got really poorly. Eventually I realised I needed to accept the flack from the Docs and seek help, and in was immediately diagnosed with T2 diabetes, my sugar level were so high I was at risk of losing consciousness and I was immediately put on Insulin.

Following that intervention I was prescribed Mounjaro by the diabetes team and since Sept last year I’ve lost 5 stone, gone from Obese to Healthy BMI, size 22/24 to size 10/12. I am much happier and healthier now, more relaxed, I feel less pressure to be perfect and no one has hurled abuse at me for the way I look for months, strangers are actually nice to me now.

So that’s why I used to harp on about being happy. I was trying to convince myself and the world that I was.

What are you on about.

I never said that the article had anything to do with WLI injections.

We are talking about doctors receiving bribes from pharmaceutical companies in general.

I was asked to provide a link showing this, and I did.

This bun fight about bribing Drs is very interesting and all, but as most people are reaching out to private pharmacists to purchase WLIs I’m not entirely sure it’s hugely relevant here?
Yes companies are marketing the product. Yes people are influenced by marketing. No, that doesn’t negate the benefits of WLIs for those taking them.

If you’re not talking about WLIs, maybe start a new thread to discuss? This discussion (fight) is completely derailing this one.

You do remember what thread you're on? No?

Why not go and start one about your Ma's BP meds if you are no longer even trying to tenuously link that to weight loss

Oh that's really sad, sounds like you've had a really tough time from 'friends' and associates being overweight.

Agree, how can paying for an expensive drug forever be a good idea for weightloss? Its like botox as soon as you stop the wrinkles come back. There has to be a bad pay off internally surely? My sister did the injections, lost 2 or 3 stone in what seemed like weeks, it all came back when she stopped taking them as she could no longer afford it. Unsustainable and very un natural.

No, you said your mother was misdiagnosed purposely by a GP, in order to prescribe her medication she did not need, in exchange for a bribe from a pharmaceutical company.

That's the only thing you've been asked to 'prove'. And you've not done it. You've gone off on a tangent about the marketing practices of pharma companies. One does not equal the other. I want to see evidence of the scenario you mooted, no more or less. Which if it happened should be insanely easy. It would have been local news, if not national, when the GP was struck off for breaching many parts of their code of practice.