Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

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I’m seeing this so much on social media. People screaming from the rooftops how they love their bodies. Hate comments come and they combat them with body positivity, I admired them so much.

Lately though, the very people who were oh-so-body-positive are popping back up five stone lighter. Some comment on it and some don’t, as if they’re waiting for people to ask. Hang on a minute, I thought you loved your big body? Did you love being fat or not?

They think everyone on WLIs are losing weight too fast and getting ozempic face because the people in their lives who are using them sensibly and healthily know better than to confide in them that they're using the jab alongside their lifestyle changes!

and this! Thank you @SkylarFalls for expressing these points so well.

The surgery is a huge, and risky, undertaking as well as being prohibitively expensive. And the pills didn't take off I don't know one person who tried them and never heard that they even worked.
People are interested in the injections.

Not everyone though. It’s ridiculous to act like anything medical is without risk or side effects and plenty of people aren’t up for that.

I can't say I would never have had the surgery, but even though my weight had reduced my mobility and was causing other health issues, the risks Vs benefits of surgery was nowhere near tipped for me at that point!

The WLIs can be used as preventative medicine: you don't need to yet be totally incapacitated by your weight

And the risk profile is totally different.

So it's not really the same people

Although people I share close genetics with HAVE had weight loss surgery, so maybe as a family we are.

That's completely understandable, we should all risk assess any meds we take.
What's odd about WLI though is how obsessed people who aren't using them are with potential side effects. It doesn't happen with women taking the pill, or using painkillers etc, all of which have just as long a list of side effects.

Yes, if it were due to abundance of caution one would expect that to be more evenly applied. And to include mention of the risks of ongoing obesity too, which we surely all know are considerable.

It's because they're not it's completely disingenuous

If they were genuinely concerned for you re side effects, they would be glad to hear how you successfully managed and mitigated them. But they are not!

They don’t feel threatened by other people using birth control pills or painkillers, that’s why.

Obsessed is a strong word. I’d suggest anyone looks into the side effects and considers them before taking non-essential medication.

”Obesity cures” can undersell the side effects simply by saying you won’t be fat anymore. As though being fat is life’s worse case scenario. My original point was that not everyone wants to take GLP-1s, and there are a number of reasons for that.

I'm not saying you personally are obsessed, but it's a comment that comes up with alarming regularity.
Do you think you'd go onto a post about say contraception to remind other adults about the, potentially fatal, side effects? Or would you assume that as adults they've read the risks and considered them worth it vs having a child they don't want.
It is of course totally fine if you, or anyone, don't think the risks are worth it on balance but there are soooooo many posters on threads like this commenting with 'concerns' about potential side effects. None of them ever seemed too fussed about the same side effects for the same meds when used by diabetics either.

I don’t make a point of doling out medical advice because I feel there are far more qualified people out there to do so. I would say that diabetics probably have more reason to take these medications than someone who is just choosing to. But again, it’s a choice.

I have some crappy health conditions. When choosing my treatment for these conditions, I sat with my consultant and discussed the long-term effect of them alongside the long-term effects of not taking them. None of them had no side effects, and choosing to not take any of them would have resulted in paralysis probably followed by death. So I accepted the fairly crappy side effects.

From that perspective, I can definitely sympathise with someone who would abstain from a medication that they don’t necessarily need due to the side-effects of it.

I'm not suggesting you'd give out medical advice, just asking if you'd do what you did here about other non essential but life changing medications. Because WLI users are seeing it over and over again - 'but the side effects!!!!!' When we know the side effects and the risks and have balanced those against the risks that being obese presents - risks like cancer, cardiovascular problems etc.
It's a prescription medication for a recognised disease, but doesn't seem to be perceived as such by a lot of MNers.

I think that you’ve just misunderstood what I said. I compared these injections to the long list of obesity cures that came before them and the fact that not everybody was on board with those either. Someone else came and said “oh, but they were dangerous” and I pointed out that side effects may also be the reason that somebody would reject the injections.

Mumsnet is full of people doing shit that I think is a terrible idea, which is why I find it so compelling.

You can't legally / above board obtain WLIs unless you demonstrate your clinical need to the prescriber!

I’m confused about the long list obesity cures that came before WLI? What were they? Which ones have taken off like WLI? Because I can’t recall a single one that had the same success or popularity than WLI. I’ve certainly not used any obesity ‘cure’ before this one.

Look, if you don’t want to take them, no one is forcing you to. But don’t be salty because lots of people are using them successfully to reduce their weight. If you choose to remain overweight - that’s your choice. But it just makes you look jealous and silly to be concerned about others using them.

The side effects of HRT usage for me have been a lot worse than Mounjaro. I’ve had side effects with the pill, antibiotics, morphine I was given during a c-section. I had a horrendous reaction to the Covid vaccine.

No medication is without risk but Mounjaro seems to come with it a huge wave of negative opinion.

I have a background in drug development so I do know how to evaluate the risks and I still take medication.

What's a skinny jab? You mean weight loss injections? Where did they state this? You can love something whilst also changing it.

I’m not acting that way at all. I’m response to the poster saying people aren’t interested in WLI the same way they weren’t interested in surgery or pills I just pointed out that more people would be interested in the injections over the other two. One is surgery and the pills - do they even work? People who chose not to have surgery are taking the injections so obviously they see it as less risky. Not risk free. There’s a difference.

Again, not my specialist subject, but bariatric surgery and diet medication have definitely worked for plenty of people. I’m not sure why people have a hard time understanding why people wouldn’t want WLIs either 😂

I understand why people don’t want to use them. I don’t understand why they object to other people using them.

(Actually I do, I just want them to admit it’s because they don’t want other fatties to lose the weight 😉)

You’re definitely over invested in my indifference. At no point have I suggested I care what anyone else is up to regarding WLIs. My point alone was that there are plenty of reasons that people aren’t taking them.

There have always been people trying to lose weight by what they feel is the best means. Look at the people travelling to Turkey and Eastern Europe for budget bariatric surgery and the follow up aesthetic surgeries if it works.

I’m sure they worked well for some people who took them but they obviously weren’t the ‘cure’ for the weight problem as lots of people were still overweight and struggling.

I understand perfectly why some people don’t want to take WLI. I don’t care what people do or don’t do. If someone doesn’t take WLI it has zero impact on my life, likewise if they do take it.
I’m just pointing out that it seems many people are interested in WLI much more so than surgery or the pills.

I'd say it was because surgery is huge and drastic and irreversible, the pills that were around a few years back seemed to have a very common laxative side effect which is obviously unpleasant. MJ is a tiny subcutaneous injection with (for many) no or few, mild side effects. You can stop immediately and it clears your system in a few days if you don't react well. They're not the same.