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Why does everyone say they love being fat until they get their hands on skinny jabs?

699 replies

Holmints · 06/08/2025 09:46

I’m seeing this so much on social media. People screaming from the rooftops how they love their bodies. Hate comments come and they combat them with body positivity, I admired them so much.

Lately though, the very people who were oh-so-body-positive are popping back up five stone lighter. Some comment on it and some don’t, as if they’re waiting for people to ask. Hang on a minute, I thought you loved your big body? Did you love being fat or not?

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pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:25

SkylarFalls · 08/08/2025 12:19

You do remember what thread you're on? No?

Why not go and start one about your Ma's BP meds if you are no longer even trying to tenuously link that to weight loss

Jesus you are horrendous. I wouldnt want to meet you in real life. Disgusting

I was asked to provide a link to show that pharmaceutical companies are bribing doctors.

In general. There was no mention of WLI in that poster's post. And we had already been talking about doctors bribing pharmaceutical companies in general.

When i provide a link showing exactly what i was asked to provide, slme posters hate that i could actually provide the link for what was asked,
so they then change the subject to something else

SkylarFalls · 08/08/2025 12:26

goldenquestion · 08/08/2025 12:21

Oh that's really sad, sounds like you've had a really tough time from 'friends' and associates being overweight.

Not the good 'uns who looked past it. Of course I've had good friends through weight gains and losses

But there's a LOT of people out there who I didn't really dislike, they were just in my outter orbit, UNTIL I lost weight and then suddenly I have value to them! Now I actively dislike those people, and it's just one of many examples of how life CAN be a little happier in some ways when you're fat Vs thin (specifically ex fat type of thin)

pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:27

goldenquestion · 08/08/2025 12:24

No, you said your mother was misdiagnosed purposely by a GP, in order to prescribe her medication she did not need, in exchange for a bribe from a pharmaceutical company.

That's the only thing you've been asked to 'prove'. And you've not done it. You've gone off on a tangent about the marketing practices of pharma companies. One does not equal the other. I want to see evidence of the scenario you mooted, no more or less. Which if it happened should be insanely easy. It would have been local news, if not national, when the GP was struck off for breaching many parts of their code of practice.

You are lying and anyone can read back and check.

A poster wrote this to me about news articles:

"Just one that actually shows DOCTORS are being BRIBED will do.

I replied specifically to this poster with a link to an article

goldenquestion · 08/08/2025 12:28

pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:25

Jesus you are horrendous. I wouldnt want to meet you in real life. Disgusting

I was asked to provide a link to show that pharmaceutical companies are bribing doctors.

In general. There was no mention of WLI in that poster's post. And we had already been talking about doctors bribing pharmaceutical companies in general.

When i provide a link showing exactly what i was asked to provide, slme posters hate that i could actually provide the link for what was asked,
so they then change the subject to something else

Edited

See my post above. I'll say it again. You were asked for evidence your mums doctor was bribed to misdiagnose her in order to prescribe her a med she didn't need for a backhander payment. 0 evidence of this so far. Or even evidence doctors are being bribed. Just that pharma companies have faced penalties for poor marketing practice.

goldenquestion · 08/08/2025 12:29

pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:27

You are lying and anyone can read back and check.

A poster wrote this to me about news articles:

"Just one that actually shows DOCTORS are being BRIBED will do.

I replied specifically to this poster with a link to an article

That was me that wrote that. I still haven't seen evidence of that.

Big pharma companies marketing their products to the people that prescribe them (whether ethically or unethically) is not evidence that a doctor is being bribed

pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:29

goldenquestion · 08/08/2025 12:28

See my post above. I'll say it again. You were asked for evidence your mums doctor was bribed to misdiagnose her in order to prescribe her a med she didn't need for a backhander payment. 0 evidence of this so far. Or even evidence doctors are being bribed. Just that pharma companies have faced penalties for poor marketing practice.

Are you blind? Or is there something wrong with you?

I was replying to the poster who asked me to provide evidence that pharma are bribing doctors.

I was replying to her.

Her post is still there! Read it!

MothPhobic · 08/08/2025 12:30

NewWin · 06/08/2025 09:54

I can't imagine anyone loves being fat really

This. I feel the whole body positivity movement to a large extent has in a way gaslite so many people into thinking they were happy and healthy, when really they weren't. Some yes. Most no.

I used to be fat. I was miserable most of the time. I wasn't living life. I lost 100lbs naturally and now I'm a size 8-6. I can't bear to look at old photos of myself. They make me want to cry.

pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:30

Does anyone have any thoughts on the doctors receiving 5 million in secret payouts from pharma companies in Ireland?

No one has responded to that news article yet. Strange that...

goldenquestion · 08/08/2025 12:30

pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:29

Are you blind? Or is there something wrong with you?

I was replying to the poster who asked me to provide evidence that pharma are bribing doctors.

I was replying to her.

Her post is still there! Read it!

That poster was me.

Lets assume your non evidence is proof that pharma companies bribe doctors, just to shut you up. Can we move now to the part where you evidence that your mum was purposely misdiagnosed in order for her doctor to receive a direct payment from the makers of a drug she didn't need.

goldenquestion · 08/08/2025 12:31

pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:30

Does anyone have any thoughts on the doctors receiving 5 million in secret payouts from pharma companies in Ireland?

No one has responded to that news article yet. Strange that...

More than one person has responded to that.

ConcernedOfClapham · 08/08/2025 12:31

Agix · 06/08/2025 10:00

Of course people should love their bodies as their body is. What, you want them to sit there despising their body? Wait, don't answer that... We all know society wants fat people to sit there and despise themselves.

Many people found weight loss very difficult, or very slow, or the actions needed to enable weightloss lowered their quality of life (calorie counting, lack of food joy, making time and energy for exercise etc) so sustainable weight loss was extremely hard for them.

Of course they had to make peace with their bodies.

Now they have an injection which makes that weight loss much easier. It didn't mean they didn't make peace with their bodies previously, or learn to love the skin they felt stuck in... It means a new option is on the table.

I remember watching a fat positive influencer back in the day in YouTube. She said straight out "if there was a magic wand to make myself thin, of course I'd wave it, but I can't".

Well, the injections are that magic wand, so now they're waving it.

Don't get me wrong, I have issues with the injections - I have anorexia, have been in treatment and forced to eat more and gain weight, and take great issue with it now being okay to eat extremely little when you paie for an injection to make it possible for you to do so... but it is apparently a mental illness and a medical problem when I do it for free (I'm back at it now though - what they gonna do? I'm not eating any less than injection patients) .

But my issues arnt with the people taking them. I totally get it, really. I wish people could be better than me but I now realise that they're not - only difference between me and all these mounjaro takers is that I can starve myself without the injections. We're all the same, and society is to blame for it.

A very well written post, although a difficult one to read. Agix has explained it better than I ever could. But really, OP - the bottom line is you sound resentful of people who (probably as a defence mechanism) tried to come to terms with their size and not be forced into a slough of self-hatred. Now you seem to resent them because there’s an ‘east’ solution, and they’re rushing to take it. In the kindest possible way, what difference does it make to you either way, OP?

Nevertheless, I wish you both well x

pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:33

goldenquestion · 08/08/2025 12:30

That poster was me.

Lets assume your non evidence is proof that pharma companies bribe doctors, just to shut you up. Can we move now to the part where you evidence that your mum was purposely misdiagnosed in order for her doctor to receive a direct payment from the makers of a drug she didn't need.

You didnt answer my question. So answer that first.

Again, what are your thoughts on the five million pounds that Irish doctors received in payouts from pharma companies?

pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:36

goldenquestion · 08/08/2025 12:29

That was me that wrote that. I still haven't seen evidence of that.

Big pharma companies marketing their products to the people that prescribe them (whether ethically or unethically) is not evidence that a doctor is being bribed

The article is not about pharma companies marketing their products to doctors.

The article said that the doctors were found to be receiving secret payments from Pharma companies.

The article also said that the doctors refuse to have their names to be published.

KT1113 · 08/08/2025 12:39

pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:33

You didnt answer my question. So answer that first.

Again, what are your thoughts on the five million pounds that Irish doctors received in payouts from pharma companies?

goldenquestion · Yesterday 15:18

pamelanoon · Yesterday 15:16
Does anyone have any thoughts on how the pharma company paid 22 millipn pounds to healthcare professionals in the UK, to promote Ozempic in the UK?
Do you still think it is a wonder drug.
A lot of the hype came from the marketing of it
Yes I think it’s a wonder drug because the results speak for themselves.
Being a commodity doesn’t make it less effective. Sky TV is pretty heavily advertised, it still does what they say it does.

SwingTheMonkey · 08/08/2025 12:40

pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:33

You didnt answer my question. So answer that first.

Again, what are your thoughts on the five million pounds that Irish doctors received in payouts from pharma companies?

You really are badly derailing this thread with your nonsense. Why don’t you start your own thread to discuss this because it has nothing to do with the op.

SkylarFalls · 08/08/2025 12:40

pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:33

You didnt answer my question. So answer that first.

Again, what are your thoughts on the five million pounds that Irish doctors received in payouts from pharma companies?

Well for 1. It's a totally different country and health system to where I buy my WLIs from so... Meh.

  1. It didn't "work", if you think it's proof that WLIs are being expedited by this, Ireland was behind most countries re availability of WLIs
  1. I never thought the pharmaceutical industry wasn't for profit, and wasn't open to corruption, that doesn't mean there can't be any good end products though
pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:41

KT1113 · 08/08/2025 12:39

goldenquestion · Yesterday 15:18

pamelanoon · Yesterday 15:16
Does anyone have any thoughts on how the pharma company paid 22 millipn pounds to healthcare professionals in the UK, to promote Ozempic in the UK?
Do you still think it is a wonder drug.
A lot of the hype came from the marketing of it
Yes I think it’s a wonder drug because the results speak for themselves.
Being a commodity doesn’t make it less effective. Sky TV is pretty heavily advertised, it still does what they say it does.

That was a different article.

I asked for her opinion on the most recent article

KT1113 · 08/08/2025 12:41

pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:41

That was a different article.

I asked for her opinion on the most recent article

Are the articles not saying the same thing? Drug companies pay healthcare workers to promote their drug?

SkylarFalls · 08/08/2025 12:42

KT1113 · 08/08/2025 12:39

goldenquestion · Yesterday 15:18

pamelanoon · Yesterday 15:16
Does anyone have any thoughts on how the pharma company paid 22 millipn pounds to healthcare professionals in the UK, to promote Ozempic in the UK?
Do you still think it is a wonder drug.
A lot of the hype came from the marketing of it
Yes I think it’s a wonder drug because the results speak for themselves.
Being a commodity doesn’t make it less effective. Sky TV is pretty heavily advertised, it still does what they say it does.

Apart from all the replies you've already had on this you mean?

pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:43

KT1113 · 08/08/2025 12:41

Are the articles not saying the same thing? Drug companies pay healthcare workers to promote their drug?

No posters said that the first two that I provided were not specific enough, in showing that Doctors are actually bribed by pharma companies.

They asked for one showing that.

So I provided another one showing how doctors are bribed.

pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:43

SkylarFalls · 08/08/2025 12:42

Apart from all the replies you've already had on this you mean?

What?

pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:45

Its very strange how posters are angry at me, when they should be angry at the corrupt doctors accepting bribes, and a system that allows this to happen.

Many individuals and organisations keep calling for more transparency of the money that doctors receive. But it hasnt happened yet

SwingTheMonkey · 08/08/2025 12:47

pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:45

Its very strange how posters are angry at me, when they should be angry at the corrupt doctors accepting bribes, and a system that allows this to happen.

Many individuals and organisations keep calling for more transparency of the money that doctors receive. But it hasnt happened yet

Edited

I honestly couldn’t give a monkeys. Mounjaro has been a life saver for me. Even if doctors are being bribed to promote ozempic, it doesn’t affect me and doesn’t take away from the fact that it’s a brilliant drug for many people.

pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:51

SwingTheMonkey · 08/08/2025 12:47

I honestly couldn’t give a monkeys. Mounjaro has been a life saver for me. Even if doctors are being bribed to promote ozempic, it doesn’t affect me and doesn’t take away from the fact that it’s a brilliant drug for many people.

Right so we have gone from posters saying:

"There is no way that doctors are receiving bribes".

To

"I don't care if they are".

This is why the world is fucked

SomeOfTheTrouble · 08/08/2025 12:53

pamelanoon · 08/08/2025 12:45

Its very strange how posters are angry at me, when they should be angry at the corrupt doctors accepting bribes, and a system that allows this to happen.

Many individuals and organisations keep calling for more transparency of the money that doctors receive. But it hasnt happened yet

Edited

Not angry at you, just bored by the derail and wish you’d take it elsewhere.

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