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My niece has used my son's name

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guestofclanmackenzie · 29/07/2025 14:54

My niece has just had a baby. She lives in America so we only keep in touch very sporadically via social media.
She has announced the baby's name and I was surprised that both first and middle names are the same name as my son.
However, my son died five years ago at age 20.

They weren't particularly close cousins, but what I find extremely strange is not a word has been said to me or my DH about using his name. Not that I would expect her to ask permission, but to acknowledge it somehow.
Both my DH and I have messaged her separately on different social media platforms to say congratulations and BTW we love his name! Very little has been said back other than "thanks"
A couple of my son's friends have had babies and used my son's christian name for two of their babies as a middle name. They actually told me beforehand and asked how I would feel. I told them we're delighted by it. This is how I would feel if my niece had told us either before or after she gave birth.

But now, we're left awkwardly wondering whether something meaningful has happened in the naming of their baby; they loved the name and as a bonus, it's a nod to our son, or was it just a coincidence?

OP posts:
guestofclanmackenzie · 31/07/2025 15:53

Soontobesingles · 31/07/2025 07:45

I think in life it is best no to expect much from others or feel entitled to things. It is best not to place yourself at the centre because that is not where you are for others. Would It have been nice for your neice to check in with you on the name? Yes. Does she owe you this? No. For you, understandably as a mother, your grief is at the front and centre of your every thought. For your neice it is her own relationship with her cousin she is honoring by naming her child after him - not yours. In her mind the name may well have nothing to do with you, even if it has everything to do with your son. The best thing you can do is accept this, and not feel entitled to her time or feel snubbed because she didn’t seek permission. My DD is named after a deceased relative and it would never have crossed my mind to ask permission from the next of kin because the naming was to do with my relationship with my relative/child. It is a terrible tragedy that your son died so early, but do try to see that his death and life were not only yours.

Edited

Sorry I had to respond to this. Where in my OP have I come across entitled and wanting/expecting to be centre of attention?? Also, I specifically said in my post that I don't expect a family member or friend to ask permission as such to name their baby the exact same christian name and middle name as my son! I also, and do not believe, I have come across that I feel "snubbed"
Absolutely unbelievable.

OP posts:
guestofclanmackenzie · 31/07/2025 15:54

Wishimaywishimight · 31/07/2025 15:14

Ah okay, I hadn't seen those other threads.

Some people do seem to enjoy being combative for some reason 🙄

You're not kidding.

OP posts:
guestofclanmackenzie · 31/07/2025 16:53

Rememberwhatthedoorknobsaid · 31/07/2025 10:15

I am sorry that so many posters on here cannot empathise with how you feel about this. The ones who think it is a coincidence that your niece has chosen your son’s name are baffling - especially since you have confirmed a history there. I would feel very much the same as you and understand that you felt you need some kind of confirmation that your son’s name was chosen intentionally or as some kind of tribute rather than just leave you guessing why they chose it. Yes it was insensitive not to give you a heads up and acknowledge that you may have mixed emotions about the name. Yes they absolutely owe that to you regardless of the distance. Your son cannot be replaced and naming another child after him could have rightly triggered all sorts of emotions either good or bad. Or you might be thrilled with the name choice but feel unable to acknowledge that because you are uncertain whether or not there is a link to your son or not. I completely understand that this has thrown you and for what it’s worth I think it was an odd thing for them to do and sorry they did not pre-empt your possible feelings on the matter. Sorry for your loss.

Thank you so much you have totally hit the nail on the head with my feelings and the situation overall.

Despite some posters saying otherwise, I do not demand permission for my son's full name to be used or feel entitled and expect attention. It was just a simple confirmation whether or not that my son has been honoured in a meaningful way.
I've had confirmation now that it was intended so it's nice his name lives on.

OP posts:
MissScarletInTheBallroom · 31/07/2025 18:00

guestofclanmackenzie · 31/07/2025 16:53

Thank you so much you have totally hit the nail on the head with my feelings and the situation overall.

Despite some posters saying otherwise, I do not demand permission for my son's full name to be used or feel entitled and expect attention. It was just a simple confirmation whether or not that my son has been honoured in a meaningful way.
I've had confirmation now that it was intended so it's nice his name lives on.

Did she send you another message then? I can't see this in your updates.

guestofclanmackenzie · 31/07/2025 18:41

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 31/07/2025 18:00

Did she send you another message then? I can't see this in your updates.

I recieved a further message from her this morning but hadn't had chance to provide an update other than within my reply to the previous poster.

OP posts:
thepariscrimefiles · 31/07/2025 18:58

Soontobesingles · 31/07/2025 07:45

I think in life it is best no to expect much from others or feel entitled to things. It is best not to place yourself at the centre because that is not where you are for others. Would It have been nice for your neice to check in with you on the name? Yes. Does she owe you this? No. For you, understandably as a mother, your grief is at the front and centre of your every thought. For your neice it is her own relationship with her cousin she is honoring by naming her child after him - not yours. In her mind the name may well have nothing to do with you, even if it has everything to do with your son. The best thing you can do is accept this, and not feel entitled to her time or feel snubbed because she didn’t seek permission. My DD is named after a deceased relative and it would never have crossed my mind to ask permission from the next of kin because the naming was to do with my relationship with my relative/child. It is a terrible tragedy that your son died so early, but do try to see that his death and life were not only yours.

Edited

Scolding a bereaved mother is really not a good look.

These bits are spectacularly insensitive and unempathetic:

'In her mind the name may well have nothing to do with you, even if it has everything to do with your son. The best thing you can do is accept this, and not feel entitled to her time or feel snubbed because she didn’t seek permission.'

'It is a terrible tragedy that your son died so early, but do try to see that his death and life were not only yours.'

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 31/07/2025 19:10

guestofclanmackenzie · 31/07/2025 18:41

I recieved a further message from her this morning but hadn't had chance to provide an update other than within my reply to the previous poster.

What did she say? Do you think she might have seen or heard about this thread?

Soontobesingles · 31/07/2025 19:35

thepariscrimefiles · 31/07/2025 18:58

Scolding a bereaved mother is really not a good look.

These bits are spectacularly insensitive and unempathetic:

'In her mind the name may well have nothing to do with you, even if it has everything to do with your son. The best thing you can do is accept this, and not feel entitled to her time or feel snubbed because she didn’t seek permission.'

'It is a terrible tragedy that your son died so early, but do try to see that his death and life were not only yours.'

It’s not scolding. It’s pointing out the reality that even in deep grief you are not the centre of other people’s universe. As the niece has already evidenced this is about her and her child, not OP and hers.

thepariscrimefiles · 31/07/2025 19:47

Soontobesingles · 31/07/2025 19:35

It’s not scolding. It’s pointing out the reality that even in deep grief you are not the centre of other people’s universe. As the niece has already evidenced this is about her and her child, not OP and hers.

I've just seen OP's response to your post and you have definitely upset her.

RepoTheGeriatricOpera · 31/07/2025 19:52

Soontobesingles · 31/07/2025 19:35

It’s not scolding. It’s pointing out the reality that even in deep grief you are not the centre of other people’s universe. As the niece has already evidenced this is about her and her child, not OP and hers.

If there was a bereaved Mother stood in front of you would you be so adamant about having to point out she isn't the centre of the universe in relation to her sons name?

I suspect not.

Get some bloody empathy.

thebluehour · 31/07/2025 23:46

poetryandwine · 31/07/2025 03:54

I absolutely love hearing the names of those I love who died too young. People can differ but IME this is pretty typical. It is other people who are afraid memories will bring pain. But the pain is constant. It is a pleasure when others acknowledge our beloved dead.

Well, that's lovely for you - but it's not how it is for me, or any of my friends.

WildJustice · 31/07/2025 23:50

guestofclanmackenzie · 31/07/2025 16:53

Thank you so much you have totally hit the nail on the head with my feelings and the situation overall.

Despite some posters saying otherwise, I do not demand permission for my son's full name to be used or feel entitled and expect attention. It was just a simple confirmation whether or not that my son has been honoured in a meaningful way.
I've had confirmation now that it was intended so it's nice his name lives on.

I'm glad you got confirmation OP and it is lovely that your son's name stays alive.

Names are hugely important and usually carefully chosen by parents after lots of deliberation. There is obviously noway that your son did not come up for your niece when she was deciding. Names are usually associated with someone in your mind and that influences how much you like it, or how special it is to you.

To suggest that you are 'entitled' because you would assume that your niece would associate your son's name with your son seems intentionally cruel. It is suggesting that it is just any old name and his cousin, when considering it, wouldn't have even thought of your son, like he was forgotten because he wasn't important to her.

I honestly despair when I read threads on here sometimes. It seems to be just going downhill recently.

guestofclanmackenzie · 01/08/2025 00:17

Soontobesingles · 31/07/2025 19:35

It’s not scolding. It’s pointing out the reality that even in deep grief you are not the centre of other people’s universe. As the niece has already evidenced this is about her and her child, not OP and hers.

Actually, you said more than that and you intentionally twisted my words in a very sensitive post. If you believe I want to be centre of attention, then so be it. It says more about you. In reality, I'm the shell of the person I used to be and have spent the past five years laying low, almost living as a recluse and struggling to leave the house, but you carry on judging a bereaved mother and suicide survivor.
By the way, as I have already explained in another comment, my niece has this morning confirmed it was intentional to name her baby with a nod to my son.

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Isitreallysohard · 01/08/2025 00:25

Soontobesingles · 31/07/2025 19:35

It’s not scolding. It’s pointing out the reality that even in deep grief you are not the centre of other people’s universe. As the niece has already evidenced this is about her and her child, not OP and hers.

Oh fuck off. She doesn't think she's the centre of the universe and obviously it is a bit strange for the neice to name her son the same name and not acknowledge it. Seriously fuck off!

Isitreallysohard · 01/08/2025 00:27

guestofclanmackenzie · 01/08/2025 00:17

Actually, you said more than that and you intentionally twisted my words in a very sensitive post. If you believe I want to be centre of attention, then so be it. It says more about you. In reality, I'm the shell of the person I used to be and have spent the past five years laying low, almost living as a recluse and struggling to leave the house, but you carry on judging a bereaved mother and suicide survivor.
By the way, as I have already explained in another comment, my niece has this morning confirmed it was intentional to name her baby with a nod to my son.

That's really lovely OP that she did that, and a huge honour to your son. Sending love, my heart truly breaks for you 💗

Dancingintherainxxx · 01/08/2025 01:02

That's very strange and insensitive of her. Bizzare thing to do.

MarieAndTwinette · 01/08/2025 02:04

guestofclanmackenzie · 01/08/2025 00:17

Actually, you said more than that and you intentionally twisted my words in a very sensitive post. If you believe I want to be centre of attention, then so be it. It says more about you. In reality, I'm the shell of the person I used to be and have spent the past five years laying low, almost living as a recluse and struggling to leave the house, but you carry on judging a bereaved mother and suicide survivor.
By the way, as I have already explained in another comment, my niece has this morning confirmed it was intentional to name her baby with a nod to my son.

Your fragility comes across in all your posts. I am guessing this is why niece didn’t know how to broach the subject. Her gesture is lovely. Your son must have touched many people. I am so sorry for your loss.

SaratogaFilly · 01/08/2025 03:03

So sorry for your loss Op & well done for surviving the last 5 years - I can’t imagine the devastation you’re living through.

It’s strange she didn’t speak to you first but I’m glad she’s confirmed that she is honouring your DS & that you’re happy about that.

(Ignore the nastiness from some posters - totally uncalled for)

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 02/08/2025 11:52

Flavourful · 31/07/2025 09:32

She’s your niece, which tells me she’s either your or your husband’s brother or sisters child, whether or not they live thousands of miles away, surely they themselves knew the name of your son, and would have told their daughter about their cousin and using his name!
I think personally it’s quite rude not to have acknowledged the fact that they have used his first name, let alone the second, and would take it up with the parent not the niece who should have known better being your brother or sister.

Her parents are both dead. She’s clearly also suffered tremendous loss at a young age.

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 02/08/2025 11:56

RimTimTagiDim · 31/07/2025 08:26

A couple of my son's friends have had babies and used my son's christian name for two of their babies as a middle name

They must be very popular names if so many people you know have used them. I think it's understandable that someone you only know peripherally wouldn't immediately associate the names with your son.

I’m assuming they purposely named their babies after ops son. Nothing to do with popularity.

Tigergirl80 · 02/08/2025 18:52

Soontobesingles · 31/07/2025 19:35

It’s not scolding. It’s pointing out the reality that even in deep grief you are not the centre of other people’s universe. As the niece has already evidenced this is about her and her child, not OP and hers.

When a horrible person you are. It’s not about being the centre of attention. It’s about the life choice of a family member that affects the OP.

YourElatedTealBear · 03/08/2025 11:29

BabyCatFace · 29/07/2025 18:11

Nice sentiment but we don't need ChatGPT generated responses on mumsnet, please don't do it

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I wrote that myself! 🙄
Your contribution what to be a negative c*nt. You probably thought chatgpt wrote that too!

Soontobesingles · 03/08/2025 22:35

Tigergirl80 · 02/08/2025 18:52

When a horrible person you are. It’s not about being the centre of attention. It’s about the life choice of a family member that affects the OP.

My advice remains: if you expect anyone (be it your neice or an internet stranger) to consider the contours of your feelings in their actions, you will be disappointed. Don’t expect other people to centre or even consider you and you will be more resilient in life.

RimTimTagiDim · 04/08/2025 08:21

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 02/08/2025 11:56

I’m assuming they purposely named their babies after ops son. Nothing to do with popularity.

I think that's unlikely, but neither of us can know for sure.

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