To vote for Jeremy Corbyn’s new party over Reform

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Just wondering how people here are feeling politically these days — especially those who are disillusioned Starmer and the Tories.

With Reform UK gaining momentum and Jeremy Corbyn & Zarah Sultana launching a new left-wing party I’m curious:
If you had to choose between the two, which would you be more likely to vote for — and why?

I know they’re obviously very different politically, but both seem to be tapping into dissatisfaction with the status quo. Reform appeals to those who feel let down by immigration policy, the economy and ‘woke’ culture, while Corbyn’s party is focused on wealth inequality, public ownership, Gaza, and climate justice.

Would love to hear where people stand — especially if you don’t usually vote, or have changed political allegiances recently.

YABU - Vote Reform
YANBU - Vote JC

How many people are actually going to find this a difficult hypothetical question to answer? They are polar opposites.

Don’t vote for either. One will bankrupt the country, the other will bankrupt the citizens

Reform. I’ve always been a conservative voter but I switched to Reform and I’m very excited by the prospect of them finally sorting out the country.

I won't be voting for either, but I would vote for almost anyone over Reform. I'd rather not vote at all if a Farage party was my only option.

That said, I don't really want JC at the helm either.

Reform of course....voting for anyone else is just not common sense

Corbyn for me.

You couldn’t pay me to vote for Farage.

I wouldn’t vote for Corbyn either. But in OP’s hypothetical of those being the only parties, then I suppose I would. But it wouldn’t be either any sense of positivity or optimism or feeling that it would go well.

But they are completely different parties? I sit on the right, id never vote for left ever, it would never be a toss up between the two...

I would not select either but I would select Jezbollah over Reform.

Jeremy Corbyn wants to get rid of nuclear weapons and lives in the socialist cloud cuckoo land of a 6th form politics student.

Farage is a grifting, oily snake who stinks of controlled opposition. He doesn't give a toss about this country, it's all an act.

Basically me. I would never vote Reform. So in OP’s example it would only be Corbyn if I was forced to pick. But likely neither.

Rock and a hard place. Devil and the deep blue sea. Frying Pan and Fire. Corbyn and Farage. 😭🤮

I'd rather stick needles in my eyes than vote for Reform.

What a choice you've given - Reform or Corbyn. I gave Corbyn a chance when he was ejected as leader of the Labour Party. He is a well known excellent speaker, a highly popular MP amongst his constituents, got one of the highest majorities. However, he was an absolutely crap leader of the Opposition. I listened to every PMQs each week on the radio when he faced off against the Prime Minister and he was an abject failure. He could not make clear arguments, could not debate effectively, he was dire. He had his chance as leader and totally f.ed it up. Having said that, I'd top myself before voting Reform.

Well I'm in Scotland and I vote for pro independence parties.

I don't know what Jeremy Corbyn's new parties stance is on Independence but I'm assuming it will be pro the union.So I doubt I will end up voting for it supposing they do have candidates in Scotland.

If I lived down in England then yes I would vote for Jeremy's party.

I never ever would vote for Reform. And I never ever would, and never have, voted Tory.

What a biased summary you have of the two parties - all negatives for Reform and all positives for Corbyn.

I think either of those two will be an absolute disaster in power. Neither have the experience in their parties for government. Having said that I would pick Reform. Even if you hate him, Farage has been extremely successful as a politician having successfully achieved a referendum he wanted, and then won it. Whether you hated that this happened is irrelevant to it being successful in terms of a politician achieving his goal. It was a major goal too. Corbyn has failed massively. Spent his life as a backbencher, surprised everyone, including himself, in becoming leader and then led his party to a historic defeat. He has achieved precisely none of his political goals.

So I'd vote Farage simply because he has been more successful politically.

JC wouldn't be my first choice. But nothing could make me vote for Reform.

If it were between them I would seriously plan to leave

I agree, it was his lack of leadership over Brexit that made me lose faith. But the reality seems to be now, who DO we choose? There don’t seem to be any good choices, just “least worst”.

I would vote for the party who doesn't plan to privatise health care. So anyone but Reform.

I think some people wouldn’t view the summary of reform as all negative, nor the summary of Corbyn as all positive.

Farage’s political success is why I don’t want him in power. I don’t want him to achieve the things he wants.

I don’t honestly know what Reform would actually do if they got into power. I’m not clear at all what it is posdible for them to achieve.

Corbyn seems like a failiure doing a PR campaign hoping rebranding will make us forget his fails.

Gosh. I don't necessarily think protest votes are bad, but that's a real choice between a rock and a hard place.

Overall I suppose, theoretically, there are more Reform issues that I would like to see handled. Though I also may find I am concerned with some of the issues the other new party is looking at as well.

But I suspect I won't be crazy about what their actual policy ideas are. For example, I want environmental issues addressed, but I suspect that I may not be on board with their approach.

But then, I'm not super happy with the quality of the Reform candidates and I think a lot of their policy ideas will be crap too.

In the end I always put a lot of emphasis on who my local candidate is, I think having good people in the house is often more important than what party they are from. And the nitty gritty of being able to write effective policy and law is given too little attention.

They’d have about 5 minutes of Liz Truss policies in steroids before the whole economy collapses and the IMF is called in.

tbh I expect Jeremy Corbyn’s new party would have much the same outcome.

Have they said how yet?