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To vote for Jeremy Corbyn’s new party over Reform

368 replies

Bunion8 · 28/07/2025 17:09

Just wondering how people here are feeling politically these days — especially those who are disillusioned Starmer and the Tories.

With Reform UK gaining momentum and Jeremy Corbyn & Zarah Sultana launching a new left-wing party I’m curious:
If you had to choose between the two, which would you be more likely to vote for — and why?

I know they’re obviously very different politically, but both seem to be tapping into dissatisfaction with the status quo. Reform appeals to those who feel let down by immigration policy, the economy and ‘woke’ culture, while Corbyn’s party is focused on wealth inequality, public ownership, Gaza, and climate justice.

Would love to hear where people stand — especially if you don’t usually vote, or have changed political allegiances recently.

YABU - Vote Reform
YANBU - Vote JC

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LarkspurLane · 28/07/2025 17:40

I'm in a LibDem/Tory area so I'd vote LibDem again. I think Reform would scupper the Tories chance here but you never know.
I'm left wing but I wouldn't like Corbyn as PM - I'd take him 100 times over Farage though.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 28/07/2025 17:40

Tekknonan · 28/07/2025 17:23

I'd rather stick needles in my eyes than vote for Reform.

That's how I feel.

Bunion8 · 28/07/2025 17:41

Jamaicanmoon · 28/07/2025 17:31

What a biased summary you have of the two parties - all negatives for Reform and all positives for Corbyn.

I think either of those two will be an absolute disaster in power. Neither have the experience in their parties for government. Having said that I would pick Reform. Even if you hate him, Farage has been extremely successful as a politician having successfully achieved a referendum he wanted, and then won it. Whether you hated that this happened is irrelevant to it being successful in terms of a politician achieving his goal. It was a major goal too. Corbyn has failed massively. Spent his life as a backbencher, surprised everyone, including himself, in becoming leader and then led his party to a historic defeat. He has achieved precisely none of his political goals.

So I'd vote Farage simply because he has been more successful politically.

I apologise, It probably speaks to my own leanings. I’d edit the post but I’m not sure how.

I recognise that Reform should be credited for their vision of a low tax, pro- corporate future, for Farages clarity and consistency and support of free speech. (What else am I missing?)

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Guavafish1 · 28/07/2025 17:42

1000%

party for the every day person

SparklyEmeraldShoes · 28/07/2025 17:43

smallglassbottle · 28/07/2025 17:19

Jeremy Corbyn wants to get rid of nuclear weapons and lives in the socialist cloud cuckoo land of a 6th form politics student.

Farage is a grifting, oily snake who stinks of controlled opposition. He doesn't give a toss about this country, it's all an act.

This. I wouldn't vote for either of these third-rate fools.

DeLaRuiz · 28/07/2025 17:44

helphelpimbeingrepressed · 28/07/2025 17:39

They’d have about 5 minutes of Liz Truss policies in steroids before the whole economy collapses and the IMF is called in.

tbh I expect Jeremy Corbyn’s new party would have much the same outcome.

Yes! No confidence is being inspired… sad state of affairs.

No3392 · 28/07/2025 17:45

Corbyn. Would be tempted to anyway, never mind against reform.

I would rather gouge my eyes out with a rusty spoon than vite reform.

Bumblebee72 · 28/07/2025 17:46

Reform all the way for me. We've already had a party that was lead by Corbyn it was awful. Reform will make the changes we need to bring the state spending under control and reduce taxes. They will stop the import of cheap labour and get the Brits back to work. The UK needs to go back to being the industrial powerhouse it once was rather than the land of the snowflakes as it is now known.

OneAmberFinch · 28/07/2025 17:47

Reform is yet another boomer pensioner welfare grift party but still better than Gaza/climate omnicause nonsense.

Jumpthewaves · 28/07/2025 17:48

I've not had a chance to look at them in detail yet.

However, I will definitely not choose Reform, I am amazed by just how many people are willing to be taken in by Nigel Farage and his crew. He's a proven liar and some people want more, it's like returning to a cheating, lying husband.

Jumpthewaves · 28/07/2025 17:49

Bumblebee72 · 28/07/2025 17:46

Reform all the way for me. We've already had a party that was lead by Corbyn it was awful. Reform will make the changes we need to bring the state spending under control and reduce taxes. They will stop the import of cheap labour and get the Brits back to work. The UK needs to go back to being the industrial powerhouse it once was rather than the land of the snowflakes as it is now known.

I wish the laugh emoji was still available! This is hilarious!

SisterTeatime · 28/07/2025 17:50

Murdoch1949 · 28/07/2025 17:25

What a choice you've given - Reform or Corbyn. I gave Corbyn a chance when he was ejected as leader of the Labour Party. He is a well known excellent speaker, a highly popular MP amongst his constituents, got one of the highest majorities. However, he was an absolutely crap leader of the Opposition. I listened to every PMQs each week on the radio when he faced off against the Prime Minister and he was an abject failure. He could not make clear arguments, could not debate effectively, he was dire. He had his chance as leader and totally f.ed it up. Having said that, I'd top myself before voting Reform.

I tend to agree with this. My thinking at the time was that he was fairly elected by the party and therefore as a Labour supporter I backed him (so to speak). He was a shit leader, fucked the whole country over with his approach to Brexit, is friends with Hamas, wants to bring back the 1970s, and is all in all a waste of space.

Farage OTOH is actively malevolent.

Bumblebee72 · 28/07/2025 17:51

Jumpthewaves · 28/07/2025 17:49

I wish the laugh emoji was still available! This is hilarious!

Hopefully the workshy will be laughing on the other side of their faces when they get what is coming to them. As a country we do not need to handing out sweeties to everyone - we're become the benefits cease pit of the world.

OneAmberFinch · 28/07/2025 17:53

Bunion8 · 28/07/2025 17:41

I apologise, It probably speaks to my own leanings. I’d edit the post but I’m not sure how.

I recognise that Reform should be credited for their vision of a low tax, pro- corporate future, for Farages clarity and consistency and support of free speech. (What else am I missing?)

Don't edit it - I think whether you see things like "immigration" or "Gaza" as positives or negatives is half the answer to your question!

teawamutu · 28/07/2025 17:53

None of the above. Magic Grandpa and Poundshop Trump are both incompetent self-regarding twats and they can both fuck off.

Jumpthewaves · 28/07/2025 17:53

Bumblebee72 · 28/07/2025 17:51

Hopefully the workshy will be laughing on the other side of their faces when they get what is coming to them. As a country we do not need to handing out sweeties to everyone - we're become the benefits cease pit of the world.

But Farage won't do any of that anyway. He'll just filter some money off to him and his mates on the way to privatising the NHS.

FluffPiece · 28/07/2025 17:54

ThatsABitExcessive · 28/07/2025 17:13

Reform. I’ve always been a conservative voter but I switched to Reform and I’m very excited by the prospect of them finally sorting out the country.

Considering Farage has the worst attendance and participation rate of any MP, was worse as an MEP, and James McMurdock has lost the whip and been suspended over potentially fraudulent loans, and Daniel Taylor, who was suspended from the party for threatening to kill his wife, which part exactly of their conduct so far are you excited by….? 🤨

DrCoconut · 28/07/2025 17:55

ShesTheAlbatross · 28/07/2025 17:36

I think some people wouldn’t view the summary of reform as all negative, nor the summary of Corbyn as all positive.

Farage’s political success is why I don’t want him in power. I don’t want him to achieve the things he wants.

Same here. We will all (apart from wealthy white people) be in a terrible mess if Farage ever gets in power. I think the OP was very generous in their assessment of him.

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 28/07/2025 17:56

Bumblebee72 · 28/07/2025 17:51

Hopefully the workshy will be laughing on the other side of their faces when they get what is coming to them. As a country we do not need to handing out sweeties to everyone - we're become the benefits cease pit of the world.

The workshy? There are considerably more people looking for work than there are jobs available. I don't think Reform have a magic wand that will fix that, and it's a problem that will only get worse as AI is increasingly used by companies to save money by reducing the numbers they need to employ.

Bumblebee72 · 28/07/2025 17:56

Jumpthewaves · 28/07/2025 17:53

But Farage won't do any of that anyway. He'll just filter some money off to him and his mates on the way to privatising the NHS.

Of course they will. Reform is the only option at the next election - anyone is a vote for the continuation of the decline of the UK. Hopefully labour won't have created so many more benefit scroungers by then that there will be no one left to vote for sense.

Jumpthewaves · 28/07/2025 17:58

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Bumblebee72 · 28/07/2025 17:59

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 28/07/2025 17:56

The workshy? There are considerably more people looking for work than there are jobs available. I don't think Reform have a magic wand that will fix that, and it's a problem that will only get worse as AI is increasingly used by companies to save money by reducing the numbers they need to employ.

The magic wand will be stopping and removing the immigrants doing the jobs.

FluffPiece · 28/07/2025 18:00

Bumblebee72 · 28/07/2025 17:51

Hopefully the workshy will be laughing on the other side of their faces when they get what is coming to them. As a country we do not need to handing out sweeties to everyone - we're become the benefits cease pit of the world.

You talk about the workshy - are you aware that Farage is the worst performing MP in terms of his attendance, voting rate, speaking rate, holds no in person clinics in Clacton and in fact has been there less than a dozen times, and has only ever mentioned his supposed constituency 4 times in parliament? He’s about as workshy as they come.

dairydebris · 28/07/2025 18:00

Ooooooo I get it I love this game!

Would you rather have a face for a butt or a butt for a face?

Would you rather run naked through spiders or nettles?

Just no!

DrCoconut · 28/07/2025 18:00

Regarding us becoming an industrial powerhouse again. You need industries for that. They've mostly been killed off causing mass unemployment and post industrial decline in many areas. The amount of money needed to revive the UK as an industrial anything would be huge.