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To feel like DIL wants the money but not a relationship with us?

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grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 14:43

My son and his wife have three children under 10. Over the years, my husband and I have supported them financially in many ways: we gave them a substantial deposit for their house, paid for years of nursery fees, gifted him a larger car when their family grew (as a result they own a car each), helped with holidays, and pay for 2 of the children’s private school, among other things.

We’ve always said we’re happy to support our children. We do it because we want our children to live a comfortable life, not expecting anything in return. But as a family we are close, and have always had a warm relationship. We’ve done the same for one of our daughters, who has two children and stays at home full-time. In her case, we help with monthly expenses so she doesn’t have to return to work. She’s warm, appreciative, involves us in her day-to-day life, and we feel like we’re part of their family.

My DIL, however, is a different story. She also wants to be a stay-at-home mum — but my son prefers that she keeps working part-time. He’s said she struggled quite badly with her mental health when she was home full-time during maternity leave (she’s admitted to this too), and that the structure and balance of part-time work is healthier for both of them. During each of her maternity leaves he said they’d argue far more and came close to divorce on a couple of occasions.

That said, she’s made it clear more than once that she expected us to step in financially so she could stop working, like our daughter has. She’s asked outright. We said no, kindly but firmly, because it’s not in our son’s interests. We’ve supported them in many other ways, but we’ve never agreed to fully fund a lifestyle that our own son isn’t comfortable with.

Since then, the tone with her has changed. She’s polite when we see each other, but cold. I’m never invited over unless my son arranges it (which is fine - we’re his family), but even then occasionally after he’s arranged it I’ll get a message or call giving me exact times when I have to leave. This isn’t at all like my son and I know by his voice this isn’t coming from him and he feels uncomfortable with the tight rules and restrictions on when his parents can visit. If I offer to babysit, she’s “already asked her mum.”, although she’s also mentioned her mum finds babysitting hard and has asked my son to pay for a regular babysitter or nanny during the week so she can have time off. If I drop things off for the kids, she’s stiff and awkward, like I’ve overstepped. She makes passive comments “well, some mums get to be at home”. Her own mum lives further away but is at their house far more often than I am.

There are other things too. My daughter (who is close to my son) told me he actually got into trouble recently for taking the children to see us one Saturday while DIL was out with a friend. She’d apparently told him she wanted him to spend the day “just with the kids,” as if including their grandparents somehow made it less valid.

And one incident still sits badly with me. I had pre-arranged a quick Sunday morning visit, brought pastries which they’ve previously liked, and while she was polite, as I left, I clearly heard her say: “I just don’t want them getting used to seeing her this often.” For context: we live 15 minutes away, and I see the children once a week for a few hours, sometimes less.

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs. If she thinks she sees too much of me, I don’t want to impose. I was going to position it as “you deserve a break!” but truthfully, I just feel worn down. If I’m not wanted in the day-to-day, maybe I’ll put my energy into the bits where I am welcome.

AIBU to feel like she wants the benefits of having generous in-laws — without actually having to deal with us? I’ve never overstepped, I’ve never criticised her parenting, I’ve done everything “right”… and I still feel like I’m being treated as a bit of a problem.

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Anunusualone · 26/07/2025 14:51

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs

please say you’re joking

and IF your son accepted this offer, you should be utterly ashamed of him.

I wouldn’t want you within a 5 mile radius of my children in your DIL’s shoes

JealousyIsADisease · 26/07/2025 14:52

Tell her to ask her DM to cough up so she can be a SAHM! Or that if she goes back to work full time you pay for DS to be a SAHD, that way he’s treated equally to his sister lol.

In all seriousness, I think the mistake was saying it’s not in your DS interests tbh. It sounded, not only that he’d been offloading about her, but really quite judgmental tbh. It’s no wonder she feels quite prickly and is keeping you at a distance.

HardworkSendHelp · 26/07/2025 14:54

I would cut all financial support and let her work it out herself. She does sound hard work.

NoKnit · 26/07/2025 14:54

Obviously totally need to hear your DILs side to the story to be able to comment properly as your post comes across as very one sided

NotrialNodeal · 26/07/2025 14:55

Wow she has such a cheek to ask you of anything! I cannot believe the audacity! You owe her nothing and yet despite the huge financial help you have provided to your son and her and their children she has the brass neck to ask for more and then be cold with you. I cannot believe how entitled she is. Unbelievable. I'm raging for you!

SoScarletItWas · 26/07/2025 14:55

If my MIL manufactured a trip to Disney just so that she could throw out the pass-agg ‘oh I thought you didn’t want to see so much of me’, that would be the end of any relationship.

Her comment that she wanted your son to have the kids on his own when she was with her friends makes me wonder how much childcare he does.

A few hours every week also feels a lot to me; I assume this is at a weekend when they’re not at work? Maybe they want to do family stuff on those limited days?

That said, you clearly do a lot for them and that’s great. Are you sure she’s not picking up that you expect her to be more grateful. It sounds like there are strings attached.

I’m not ignoring the fact that you refused to contribute to her being a SAHM. She shouldn’t have used that as an excuse for cooling off - but it doesn’t sound like you’ve ever really gelled. I find it really hard being around my MIL to the extent I have been alone with her for probably no longer than 10 minutes in over 30 years.

ResidentPorker · 26/07/2025 14:55

YANBU. She sounds like a spoilt ungrateful bitch. But you’re a MIL so according to some on here you’re the devil.

Hankunamatata · 26/07/2025 14:56

You pay for dd to be a sahp (whoch blows my mind tbh). Dil asked the same and you said no so she doesnt feel like she is family.
You son needs to man up and tell her that he was the one who said for parents not to fund this

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 14:56

@JealousyIsADiseasesorry if that’s how the post came across but I didn’t share anything that my son said in private, I only said that I would do it if there’s agreement between the two, but it’s not a secret (to her, to us, or to anyone) that my son would oppose her being a SAHM. There’s no evidence of offloading (and anything he says in private stays private) - it was a discussion, or multiple, where she’d push for us to pay the equivalent of her wages if she became a SAHM and my son openly saying that’s not a good idea.

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JaneEyre40 · 26/07/2025 14:58

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 14:43

My son and his wife have three children under 10. Over the years, my husband and I have supported them financially in many ways: we gave them a substantial deposit for their house, paid for years of nursery fees, gifted him a larger car when their family grew (as a result they own a car each), helped with holidays, and pay for 2 of the children’s private school, among other things.

We’ve always said we’re happy to support our children. We do it because we want our children to live a comfortable life, not expecting anything in return. But as a family we are close, and have always had a warm relationship. We’ve done the same for one of our daughters, who has two children and stays at home full-time. In her case, we help with monthly expenses so she doesn’t have to return to work. She’s warm, appreciative, involves us in her day-to-day life, and we feel like we’re part of their family.

My DIL, however, is a different story. She also wants to be a stay-at-home mum — but my son prefers that she keeps working part-time. He’s said she struggled quite badly with her mental health when she was home full-time during maternity leave (she’s admitted to this too), and that the structure and balance of part-time work is healthier for both of them. During each of her maternity leaves he said they’d argue far more and came close to divorce on a couple of occasions.

That said, she’s made it clear more than once that she expected us to step in financially so she could stop working, like our daughter has. She’s asked outright. We said no, kindly but firmly, because it’s not in our son’s interests. We’ve supported them in many other ways, but we’ve never agreed to fully fund a lifestyle that our own son isn’t comfortable with.

Since then, the tone with her has changed. She’s polite when we see each other, but cold. I’m never invited over unless my son arranges it (which is fine - we’re his family), but even then occasionally after he’s arranged it I’ll get a message or call giving me exact times when I have to leave. This isn’t at all like my son and I know by his voice this isn’t coming from him and he feels uncomfortable with the tight rules and restrictions on when his parents can visit. If I offer to babysit, she’s “already asked her mum.”, although she’s also mentioned her mum finds babysitting hard and has asked my son to pay for a regular babysitter or nanny during the week so she can have time off. If I drop things off for the kids, she’s stiff and awkward, like I’ve overstepped. She makes passive comments “well, some mums get to be at home”. Her own mum lives further away but is at their house far more often than I am.

There are other things too. My daughter (who is close to my son) told me he actually got into trouble recently for taking the children to see us one Saturday while DIL was out with a friend. She’d apparently told him she wanted him to spend the day “just with the kids,” as if including their grandparents somehow made it less valid.

And one incident still sits badly with me. I had pre-arranged a quick Sunday morning visit, brought pastries which they’ve previously liked, and while she was polite, as I left, I clearly heard her say: “I just don’t want them getting used to seeing her this often.” For context: we live 15 minutes away, and I see the children once a week for a few hours, sometimes less.

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs. If she thinks she sees too much of me, I don’t want to impose. I was going to position it as “you deserve a break!” but truthfully, I just feel worn down. If I’m not wanted in the day-to-day, maybe I’ll put my energy into the bits where I am welcome.

AIBU to feel like she wants the benefits of having generous in-laws — without actually having to deal with us? I’ve never overstepped, I’ve never criticised her parenting, I’ve done everything “right”… and I still feel like I’m being treated as a bit of a problem.

I would stop funding your children's lives. It's not helping (in the case of your son's family). They should learn to be independent adults.

tattychicken · 26/07/2025 14:59

I think she is very obviously being treated as " less than" your children, and your son isn't handling the situation well.

I think you should have a conversation just with her about how she feels about working/SAHM. You let your son decide for her by the sounds of it. Has she actually got a voice? Does your son listen to her?

The being annoyed that he took the children to yours could be unreasonable, or actually quite understandable. I used to get irritated when if I had a very infrequent day out, DH suddenly went to visit his parents for the day, knowing his Mum would fuss round the kids and sort lunch and pick up the pieces for him. I wanted him to eg take them to the zoo, take them swimming, do something with them, just him and them. I felt he was serving the work and responsibility and passing them on to his Mum.

MrBallenIsaFittie · 26/07/2025 14:59

NoKnit · 26/07/2025 14:54

Obviously totally need to hear your DILs side to the story to be able to comment properly as your post comes across as very one sided

All posts are one sided, that's the nature of the beast. Would you instantly believe the DIL if she posted her side?
For what its worth @grannyhasaq you are free to adopt me and my family if you so wish 😆 I would love to have had such generous people involved in my children's lives.

TomatoSandwiches · 26/07/2025 14:59

Your son doesnt sound very supportive of her tbh, she sounds resentful of him, how often is he doing childcare with running to you?

MauriceTheMussel · 26/07/2025 14:59

Idk, it’s hard to say without hearing her side, but you do seem to think giving money entitles you to have people act a certain way in return. I assume money is a gift, which means you can’t attach implied or explicit conditions.

The Disneyland thing is just straight up nuts.

NoKnit · 26/07/2025 14:59

Obviously totally need to hear your DILs side to the story to be able to comment properly as your post comes across as very one sided.

My in-laws keep giving us money for this that and the other, no strings attached nice of them but I do really wish they wouldn't. Their attitude is they can't take it with them and it would go to my DH anyway but still. Perhaps she actually feels like that?!

Poonu · 26/07/2025 15:00

Maybe she just doesn't like you and just using anything as an excuse. Basically you can't win so don't give her the bullets to shoot you with.

ExtraOnions · 26/07/2025 15:00

The problem is your son … it needs to be made very clear that the person behind the decision, for her not to be a SAHM, is him. You are getting the blame for his decision.

She’s pissed as she sees the difference in the way her, and your DD are living …. And it’s down to her husbands choices. She thinks it’s down to you.

Meadowfinch · 26/07/2025 15:00

I think it's hard to accept that sometimes people just don't like each other. Difficult if they find themselves in the same family, but the best thing to do is to keep contact to a minimum.

I'd deal with it head on. Talk to your son, tell him that you know his wife doesn't like you much but that you value the interaction you have with him and his children.

Suggest a practical solution, that he brings the DCs to see you once a week (Sunday morning?), which gives her a little time on her own, allows you to see your son and his children, and means you and DIL don't have awkward exchanges. You aren't on her territory and she isn't on yours.

Poonu · 26/07/2025 15:00

Your son is stuck in the middle I guess and he has to pick his wife.

Anunusualone · 26/07/2025 15:00

The idea that this son would say

“yes please mummy, take me and the children away for free but yes… charge my wife” is not actually least bit surprising given the Op even thinks this would be a reasonable suggestion.

OP, you sound quite profoundly unpleasant on the basis of your idea

EggyBreads · 26/07/2025 15:01

This cannot be real. You want to pay for everyone to go to Disney but not her? You obviously don’t like her and you sound far too involved in the minutiae of your children’s lives.

tattychicken · 26/07/2025 15:02

Yes, the whole Disney idea is rather unpleasant.

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 15:02

It would be interesting to hear her side

NotrialNodeal · 26/07/2025 15:02

NoKnit · 26/07/2025 14:59

Obviously totally need to hear your DILs side to the story to be able to comment properly as your post comes across as very one sided.

My in-laws keep giving us money for this that and the other, no strings attached nice of them but I do really wish they wouldn't. Their attitude is they can't take it with them and it would go to my DH anyway but still. Perhaps she actually feels like that?!

Why do you wish your in laws would stop giving you money when there is no strings attached?

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 15:03

@SoScarletItWasi can’t tell you for sure how much childcare he does but she does a sport one evening a week, when he looks after all 3 kids, from what they both say does regular dinners / lunches with friends when he’s with the children, and I know he does regular drop offs and pickups for the kids. I would say he is quite an involved dad, but of course I cannot tell you for sure as I don’t live with them. I’d say it’s 50/50 on when we visit - sometimes she’s busy with her friends or sport, and sometimes she’s home. It’s certainly not like he comes to see us every time he’s left alone with the children because we also travel or have other plans.

@Hankunamatataour son said he disagrees with her being a SAHM to us and to her in front of her, he’s also private said to us (which we didn’t mention) that it’s been discussed many times with just 2 of them and he doesn’t want that. It’s not a secret.

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