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AIBU?

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To feel like DIL wants the money but not a relationship with us?

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grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 14:43

My son and his wife have three children under 10. Over the years, my husband and I have supported them financially in many ways: we gave them a substantial deposit for their house, paid for years of nursery fees, gifted him a larger car when their family grew (as a result they own a car each), helped with holidays, and pay for 2 of the children’s private school, among other things.

We’ve always said we’re happy to support our children. We do it because we want our children to live a comfortable life, not expecting anything in return. But as a family we are close, and have always had a warm relationship. We’ve done the same for one of our daughters, who has two children and stays at home full-time. In her case, we help with monthly expenses so she doesn’t have to return to work. She’s warm, appreciative, involves us in her day-to-day life, and we feel like we’re part of their family.

My DIL, however, is a different story. She also wants to be a stay-at-home mum — but my son prefers that she keeps working part-time. He’s said she struggled quite badly with her mental health when she was home full-time during maternity leave (she’s admitted to this too), and that the structure and balance of part-time work is healthier for both of them. During each of her maternity leaves he said they’d argue far more and came close to divorce on a couple of occasions.

That said, she’s made it clear more than once that she expected us to step in financially so she could stop working, like our daughter has. She’s asked outright. We said no, kindly but firmly, because it’s not in our son’s interests. We’ve supported them in many other ways, but we’ve never agreed to fully fund a lifestyle that our own son isn’t comfortable with.

Since then, the tone with her has changed. She’s polite when we see each other, but cold. I’m never invited over unless my son arranges it (which is fine - we’re his family), but even then occasionally after he’s arranged it I’ll get a message or call giving me exact times when I have to leave. This isn’t at all like my son and I know by his voice this isn’t coming from him and he feels uncomfortable with the tight rules and restrictions on when his parents can visit. If I offer to babysit, she’s “already asked her mum.”, although she’s also mentioned her mum finds babysitting hard and has asked my son to pay for a regular babysitter or nanny during the week so she can have time off. If I drop things off for the kids, she’s stiff and awkward, like I’ve overstepped. She makes passive comments “well, some mums get to be at home”. Her own mum lives further away but is at their house far more often than I am.

There are other things too. My daughter (who is close to my son) told me he actually got into trouble recently for taking the children to see us one Saturday while DIL was out with a friend. She’d apparently told him she wanted him to spend the day “just with the kids,” as if including their grandparents somehow made it less valid.

And one incident still sits badly with me. I had pre-arranged a quick Sunday morning visit, brought pastries which they’ve previously liked, and while she was polite, as I left, I clearly heard her say: “I just don’t want them getting used to seeing her this often.” For context: we live 15 minutes away, and I see the children once a week for a few hours, sometimes less.

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs. If she thinks she sees too much of me, I don’t want to impose. I was going to position it as “you deserve a break!” but truthfully, I just feel worn down. If I’m not wanted in the day-to-day, maybe I’ll put my energy into the bits where I am welcome.

AIBU to feel like she wants the benefits of having generous in-laws — without actually having to deal with us? I’ve never overstepped, I’ve never criticised her parenting, I’ve done everything “right”… and I still feel like I’m being treated as a bit of a problem.

OP posts:
verycloakanddaggers · 26/07/2025 15:17

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 15:12

We are quite comfortably off.
yes, I do that for my daughter. It’s not really a salary, more like giving her large sums of money to cover any expenses for her

So you treat the two families differently, giving less to one side because your DS has decided his wife should work because it's better for him?

Honestly this sounds like toxic soup, a fair proportion of which seems to come from you originally.

Give both families the same treatment/cash and let the couples work out (or not) their marriage issues on their own.

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 15:17

yes, I do that for my daughter. It’s not really a salary, more like giving her large sums of money to cover any expenses for her

So if your son was up for DIL being a SAHM would you do the above? I get that it's your daughter vs your dil but I think both families should be treated equally b

Ohitshot · 26/07/2025 15:17

Wow that is a lot of money you must be handing your adult children!

In this case I think you have been supporting them financially too much. They have become quite entitled, well your dil has based on what you say.

SoScarletItWas · 26/07/2025 15:17

She works part time, but wants to stop working completely. She also understandably wants to live a certain lifestyle, go to events, holiday well, dress well etc

Why is DIL “selfish” for wanting this when DD has it all funded by dear mama???

I am not meaning who should pay for it. But the fundamental desire to be a SAHM is judged selfish and entitled for one member of the family, and not for the other. One of the mothers may well be resentful that one set of GC get a SAHM while her children don’t.

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 15:17

It's pretty controlling imo

Barney16 · 26/07/2025 15:18

The Disneyland plan is awful. Truly awful. If you were my MIL and you did that I would immediately stop all contact with you. If my husband went along with that plan our relationship would be over.

DemonsandMosquitoes · 26/07/2025 15:18

You are involved in your daughters ‘day to day’ life!?
Too much. Stop doling out the cash and focus on your own life and not that of your DC.
The Disney thing hints at far more about you than all this. And not favourable.
Unhealthy all round.

ThePoshUns · 26/07/2025 15:19

I have only read the OPs posts, but what stands out to me is that a lot of decisions about your DIL seem to have been made without her being consulted. Your som rbi is it is better for her that she works part time, yet your DIL wants to be a stay at home mother. Maybe she finds you and your son to be colluding against her?
It comes to me as pretty controlling.

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 15:19

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 15:10

She works part time, but wants to stop working completely. She also understandably wants to live a certain lifestyle, go to events, holiday well, dress well etc

So currently her part time work funds all of the above?

I don’t know 100% of details on their finances but from what I can deduce and the things they’ve said, his salary pays for family expenses (mortgage, bills, holidays, food, activities, meals out, kids’ activities, housekeeper, private healthcare including private maternity etc) and her salary is more like “play money” for herself so to be used on her sport, dinner with friends, new pair of sunglasses, hairdressers, clothes etc

OP posts:
Vaxtable · 26/07/2025 15:20

It’s her issue with your son and she shouldn’t be imposing this disagreement on you

shes obviously jealous that you support your daughter to be a sahm but if your son isn’t prepared to support her desire then you are correct not to

if she brings it up just refer her back to your son

as to Disneyland, sorry you are wrong there, you need to invite them all

Ohitshot · 26/07/2025 15:20

Do you work yourself op? Or are you retired?
Wondering if you have a bottomless amount of money. What’s your plan for supporting them financially going forward?

Pollqueen · 26/07/2025 15:21

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 15:02

It would be interesting to hear her side

In all the years I've been on MN and all the awful MIL threads I've read, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that they'd be interested in hearing the MIL's side. Just saying

CandyCane457 · 26/07/2025 15:21

the thing is, of course my children are dearer to me than a DIL or a SIL. Isn’t that obvious to any mother? Your child is your child.

Yes and this is why she is closer to her mum- in your post you suggest displeasure at her being closer to her mum and asking her own mum to babysit even though she finds it hard, surely it is obvious why?

Your post is interesting as there were a few points where as I was reading I thought “this DIL sounds awful and so entitled!” But then your Disney suggestion has made me wonder if you’re quite horrid and there’s a lot more back story and reason as to why she is the way she is with you. As others hve said, this is a post where I’d really love to hear her side of the story as well!

PennywisePoundFoolish · 26/07/2025 15:22

The Disney plan is just awful. You say yourself it's natural to be closer to your DC than in-laws, but also don't understand why she asks her mum to babysit more than you.

Of course she can't demand you fund her to be SAHM. It reads to me that she's still struggling with her mental health and is possibly unhappy in her marriage. It doesn't sound like your son has much warmth for her, and I think she's acutely aware of how you feel about her.

I'd be stressed at the prospect of divorcing a man whose parents would fund his legal expenses.

I guess her life is a bit of gilded cage.

Anunusualone · 26/07/2025 15:23

Pollqueen · 26/07/2025 15:21

In all the years I've been on MN and all the awful MIL threads I've read, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that they'd be interested in hearing the MIL's side. Just saying

I have!

But for this MIL, the very fact she thinks charging her DIL to go on holiday with her husband and children - who the Op is paying for, speaks VOLUMES about the OP. And means I’m very open minded to this DIL’s version of events. And my gut is…. I’d be team DIL!

SoSoLong · 26/07/2025 15:23

verycloakanddaggers · 26/07/2025 15:17

So you treat the two families differently, giving less to one side because your DS has decided his wife should work because it's better for him?

Honestly this sounds like toxic soup, a fair proportion of which seems to come from you originally.

Give both families the same treatment/cash and let the couples work out (or not) their marriage issues on their own.

It's not obvious to me she is giving them less? Years of nursery fees, private school for 2 children, new car for DS vs cash gifts to DD for her to stay at home? Both children get a lot of help, just for different things.

LittlleMy · 26/07/2025 15:23

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 15:19

I don’t know 100% of details on their finances but from what I can deduce and the things they’ve said, his salary pays for family expenses (mortgage, bills, holidays, food, activities, meals out, kids’ activities, housekeeper, private healthcare including private maternity etc) and her salary is more like “play money” for herself so to be used on her sport, dinner with friends, new pair of sunglasses, hairdressers, clothes etc

Oof she’s living the dream! Yet still wanting more 😬. Difficult to be attracted to a healthy of working age person who wants to be ‘kept’. Don’t know how your DS remains with such a person. Couldn’t be me.

diddl · 26/07/2025 15:24

So what does your SIL think of you paying for your daughter to stay home?

Presumably he said yes because you wouldn't have done it otherwise would you?

Ramblingaway · 26/07/2025 15:24

If you don't want to start tearing your family apart, and causing a split between yourselves and possibly also your son and daughters, I'd suggest a different approach in future. Work out what you can afford/wish to give them, and just give it as as a yearly sum. No strings attached, no clauses about how it is to be used, and ideally an equal amount to each child, regardless of marital status etc. They can the decide for themselves, in consultation with their spouse (if they all have one) how it will be spent. My father in law has adopted this approach for years (although we're not talking anywhere near the amount you are). If you brought your kids up well, they'll use it sensibly! If you didn't, it's probably too late now anyway, no matter how many strings and clauses you attach to it.

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 15:24

OP, can I ask are you and/or your daughter in law from a different cultural background? ie one where it’s normal to be so reliant on in-laws? I’m just trying to get my head around her thinking this is normal and her sense of entitlement. I’m staggered that she thinks you should be funding her life.

I know quite a few people where their parents fund their homes, renovations, private school etc. it's a bit weird on one hand but in their "posh" circle very normal.

bumblecoach · 26/07/2025 15:24

Quite frankly, it sounds as though you’ve done enough and it’s time for her to get her arse back to full-time work.
If she keeps this up, she’s going to find herself a divorced single mum and then she’ll really know what life’s all about

godmum56 · 26/07/2025 15:25

ThePoshUns · 26/07/2025 15:19

I have only read the OPs posts, but what stands out to me is that a lot of decisions about your DIL seem to have been made without her being consulted. Your som rbi is it is better for her that she works part time, yet your DIL wants to be a stay at home mother. Maybe she finds you and your son to be colluding against her?
It comes to me as pretty controlling.

This. I think there is a big muddle here. The only person who has a right to make decisions that affect your DIL's health is your DIL. Would you have given an equal amount of money to your son if there wasn't the "mental health" issue? If she sees you ganging up on her with your son, I am not surprised that she doesn't like you much.

Velvian · 26/07/2025 15:25

It sounds really tricky and I think the money is making things a lot worse.

I can see how you have offended your DIL. You are funding some of their lifestyle, which gives you control and a vested interest in areas parents and PILs of adult children usually have no input into.

Your DS has a closer line to the funds, which creates a potentially unhealthy dynamic in their relationship, it is a power imbalance. Your son has said to her in front of you that she can't be a SAHM due to her mental health; that is totally unacceptable and betrayal of their privacy, more particularly her privacy.

You have made it clear to your DIL that you don't really care about her as a person, it's no wonder that she is cautious around you.

VintageDiamondGirl · 26/07/2025 15:26

You very generous, OP and your DIL is very ungrateful.

I think you’re going to have to just take a deep breath, keep calm and carry on.

This must be difficult for your son at times, too.

NoKnit · 26/07/2025 15:26

NotrialNodeal · 26/07/2025 15:02

Why do you wish your in laws would stop giving you money when there is no strings attached?

Well various reasons I'd rather they spent it on themselves like my MIL moaning about her £2 flip flops from primary hurting her feet but thinks spending any more is a total waste of money for example she doesn't need to scrimp and save on bad footwear. Also I do feel a bit bad because my own parents whilst comfortable are not in same position to give us sums of money in one go and tell us to spend it on the house or holidays or whatever.

Don't get me wrong nothing wrong with my in-laws they are nice people obviously we have different views on things but they are OK. But they earned this money they should just treat themselves to some luxury