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AIBU?

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To feel like DIL wants the money but not a relationship with us?

475 replies

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 14:43

My son and his wife have three children under 10. Over the years, my husband and I have supported them financially in many ways: we gave them a substantial deposit for their house, paid for years of nursery fees, gifted him a larger car when their family grew (as a result they own a car each), helped with holidays, and pay for 2 of the children’s private school, among other things.

We’ve always said we’re happy to support our children. We do it because we want our children to live a comfortable life, not expecting anything in return. But as a family we are close, and have always had a warm relationship. We’ve done the same for one of our daughters, who has two children and stays at home full-time. In her case, we help with monthly expenses so she doesn’t have to return to work. She’s warm, appreciative, involves us in her day-to-day life, and we feel like we’re part of their family.

My DIL, however, is a different story. She also wants to be a stay-at-home mum — but my son prefers that she keeps working part-time. He’s said she struggled quite badly with her mental health when she was home full-time during maternity leave (she’s admitted to this too), and that the structure and balance of part-time work is healthier for both of them. During each of her maternity leaves he said they’d argue far more and came close to divorce on a couple of occasions.

That said, she’s made it clear more than once that she expected us to step in financially so she could stop working, like our daughter has. She’s asked outright. We said no, kindly but firmly, because it’s not in our son’s interests. We’ve supported them in many other ways, but we’ve never agreed to fully fund a lifestyle that our own son isn’t comfortable with.

Since then, the tone with her has changed. She’s polite when we see each other, but cold. I’m never invited over unless my son arranges it (which is fine - we’re his family), but even then occasionally after he’s arranged it I’ll get a message or call giving me exact times when I have to leave. This isn’t at all like my son and I know by his voice this isn’t coming from him and he feels uncomfortable with the tight rules and restrictions on when his parents can visit. If I offer to babysit, she’s “already asked her mum.”, although she’s also mentioned her mum finds babysitting hard and has asked my son to pay for a regular babysitter or nanny during the week so she can have time off. If I drop things off for the kids, she’s stiff and awkward, like I’ve overstepped. She makes passive comments “well, some mums get to be at home”. Her own mum lives further away but is at their house far more often than I am.

There are other things too. My daughter (who is close to my son) told me he actually got into trouble recently for taking the children to see us one Saturday while DIL was out with a friend. She’d apparently told him she wanted him to spend the day “just with the kids,” as if including their grandparents somehow made it less valid.

And one incident still sits badly with me. I had pre-arranged a quick Sunday morning visit, brought pastries which they’ve previously liked, and while she was polite, as I left, I clearly heard her say: “I just don’t want them getting used to seeing her this often.” For context: we live 15 minutes away, and I see the children once a week for a few hours, sometimes less.

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs. If she thinks she sees too much of me, I don’t want to impose. I was going to position it as “you deserve a break!” but truthfully, I just feel worn down. If I’m not wanted in the day-to-day, maybe I’ll put my energy into the bits where I am welcome.

AIBU to feel like she wants the benefits of having generous in-laws — without actually having to deal with us? I’ve never overstepped, I’ve never criticised her parenting, I’ve done everything “right”… and I still feel like I’m being treated as a bit of a problem.

OP posts:
IKnowAristotle · 26/07/2025 15:03

Use some money to buy a pair of scissors and cut the apron strings.

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 15:03

Presumably if you helped with the house, car & private school fees she could work part time regardless?

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 15:05

it was a discussion, or multiple, where she’d push for us to pay the equivalent of her wages if she became a SAHM and my son openly saying that’s not a good idea.

she asked outright to pay her a salary whilst she stays at home? do you do this for your daughter? are you very rich?

PhilippaGeorgiou · 26/07/2025 15:06

NoKnit · 26/07/2025 14:54

Obviously totally need to hear your DILs side to the story to be able to comment properly as your post comes across as very one sided

I disagree. Yes, it is one-sided. Of course it is, it's the OP posting her story. But the central issue (perhaps lost in the sea of words) is that DIL has asked the OP to pay for her to give up work, and if they won't do that they don't want OP to have a close relationship with the children. That's be a hard "no" from me, regardless of what her son said and regardless of what she has given her daughter. Her job is not to fund the DIL's preferred lifestyle.

I'd also be cutting back on what I do give - if it makes you feel better, put it aside in a high interest account in the kids names for when they are adults.

Quite seperately, it's very generous but is it really a good thing to be letting your children become dependant on you for the lifestyle they want to have? You won't be there for them forever...

samplesalequeen · 26/07/2025 15:06

ResidentPorker · 26/07/2025 14:55

YANBU. She sounds like a spoilt ungrateful bitch. But you’re a MIL so according to some on here you’re the devil.

Exactly!

your first mistake was giving her a sniff of the money.

I’d pull the plug financially. Imagine expecting your in-laws (or anyone!) to fund your lifestyle 🤣🤣

StrawberryCranberry · 26/07/2025 15:06

OP please don't do the Disney thing, that would be really awful.

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 15:06

@tattychickenthe thing is, of course my children are dearer to me than a DIL or a SIL. Isn’t that obvious to any mother? Your child is your child.
she seems to tell him what he can and can’t do quite a lot, so I would guess she does have a voice?
regarding the time when he came to see us, he frequently has the kids alone and just spends time with them alone, but equally sometimes he will come to see us. Definitely not every time, far from it.

OP posts:
nomas · 26/07/2025 15:07

YANBU. I think you did so much for them that she expects it.

Your son needs to tell her to not be such an entitled twat.

How old are the kids now, she should go back to work full time if she wants more money.

verycloakanddaggers · 26/07/2025 15:08

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs. This is completely toxic.

You and your son both sound pretty bad in this story.

Would very much like to hear the DIL's take.

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 15:09

I disagree. Yes, it is one-sided. Of course it is, it's the OP posting her story.

All posts are obviously one sided but the Disney thing clearly shows an element to me at least that the DIL will have a very different perspective.

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 15:09

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 15:03

Presumably if you helped with the house, car & private school fees she could work part time regardless?

She works part time, but wants to stop working completely. She also understandably wants to live a certain lifestyle, go to events, holiday well, dress well etc

OP posts:
Anunusualone · 26/07/2025 15:10

I want you to suggest that you take away son and grandchildren for free but charge her.
Please do!

Because IF your son says yes…. Then 🤢, you have a truly pathetic son OP

either way, the DIL will have an awesome dinner party story to share with girlfriends that will will beat all horror-MIL stories!!

SoSoLong · 26/07/2025 15:10

MauriceTheMussel · 26/07/2025 14:59

Idk, it’s hard to say without hearing her side, but you do seem to think giving money entitles you to have people act a certain way in return. I assume money is a gift, which means you can’t attach implied or explicit conditions.

The Disneyland thing is just straight up nuts.

It goes both ways though, it seems like Dil is rationing access to the grandchildren unless she is paid to stay at home.

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 15:10

She works part time, but wants to stop working completely. She also understandably wants to live a certain lifestyle, go to events, holiday well, dress well etc

So currently her part time work funds all of the above?

nomas · 26/07/2025 15:10

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 15:09

I disagree. Yes, it is one-sided. Of course it is, it's the OP posting her story.

All posts are obviously one sided but the Disney thing clearly shows an element to me at least that the DIL will have a very different perspective.

I think it’s understandable that when OP has given so much and yet DIL still wants more and acts so coldly, that OP has a wish to hurt her back but not actually do it.

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 15:11

I think it’s understandable that when OP has given so much and yet DIL still wants more and acts so coldly, that OP has a wish to hurt her back but not actually do it.

I don't think the Disney thing is rational at all, sounds toxic to me.

TheOtherAgentJohnson · 26/07/2025 15:12

The Disney thing is so bananas pass-agg that there’s no way I can take your word that your side of this story is objective, OP.

I’m going to assume this is a wind-up, because who in their right mind even thinks of something that bonkers.

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 15:12

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 15:05

it was a discussion, or multiple, where she’d push for us to pay the equivalent of her wages if she became a SAHM and my son openly saying that’s not a good idea.

she asked outright to pay her a salary whilst she stays at home? do you do this for your daughter? are you very rich?

We are quite comfortably off.
yes, I do that for my daughter. It’s not really a salary, more like giving her large sums of money to cover any expenses for her

OP posts:
MrsTerryPratchett · 26/07/2025 15:13

I thought this one sounded like 6 of one, half a dozen of the other. Slightly too enmeshed family, using money to light control. But she sounds grabby and annoying. Then you floated the Disney idea. And the balance shifted to, poor DIL, there’s definitely more to this and not on her side. The Disney plan is mean and weird.

ARichtGoodDram · 26/07/2025 15:13

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip hotel, park tickets, travel and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs. If she thinks she sees too much of me, I don’t want to impose. I was going to position it as “you deserve a break!” but truthfully, I just feel worn down. If I’m not wanted in the day-to-day, maybe I’ll put my energy into the bits where I am welcome.

If you do that you'll blow up any relationship you have with her, and it'll put your son (and your grandchildren) in a horrendous position stuck between you.

It sounds to me like the agreement (between both of them) was that she'd not work after having children, like your dd, but because it caused so much stress between them while she was on ML your son has changed his position. That's entirely his right to do so, but it would be understandable if that was the plan that she's not happy that it's changed.

She's not going about dealing with it well, but matching rudeness with more rudeness will simply make life harder for your son and grandchildren.

Vivienne1000 · 26/07/2025 15:14

Would you like to be my Mother in Law?
having had zero support from any parent ever, I would have loved to have had all that help!
You sound amazingly generous, but tread carefully here. She sounds selfish and ungrateful, but don’t exclude her or there will be trouble ahead.

samplesalequeen · 26/07/2025 15:14

OP, can I ask are you and/or your daughter in law from a different cultural background? ie one where it’s normal to be so reliant on in-laws? I’m just trying to get my head around her thinking this is normal and her sense of entitlement. I’m staggered that she thinks you should be funding her life.

thepariscrimefiles · 26/07/2025 15:16

You seem to want to control your adult children by using your obviously significant wealth to facilitate their lifestyles. I can understand helping them with house deposits, but you are paying for nursery and private school, cars and holidays. Your DIL is unreasonable to expect you to facilitate her being a SAHM, but I'm not sure why you do this for your daughter either.

Your plan to exclude your DIL from a family holiday to Disney unless she pays for herself will be the final nail in the coffin of your relationship with her and possibly the end of your son's marriage if he agrees with what you are doing.

No-one in your family comes out of this looking good. It's all very materialistic and transactional.

BusMumsHoliday · 26/07/2025 15:16

No one is covering themselves in glory here.

You are using money as a means of control. You say you don't expect anything in return but you clearly do, otherwise you wouldn't be posting about how much you give and how frosty DIL is, and why can't she be warm like your DD. To be clear, wanting to spend time with your DC is fine; throwing a trip to Disney in your DILs face because you can afford it, is not. You also blatantly say you feel closer to your DS and DD, and then criticise her for turning to her own mother more - which is hypocritical to say the least. She's going to sense this from you and this will be one reason why you're feeling a strained relationship.

Your DS seems to think he knows his wife's mental health better than she does. Having poor mental health during mat leave is very different to her wanting to be an SAHM. She may well have had PND. How involved is he as a father?

Your DIL does sound pretty entitled and I can see that her asking for more money after you've given a lot would be annoying.

But from your perspective, you can either write the cheques and genuinely expect nothing back or stop giving money altogether. Using money to control is never going to end well.

tattychicken · 26/07/2025 15:17

Your son, and then you, have decided she will continue to work. She has had no voice in that discussion and decision and sounds understandably pretty unhappy about it.

If you are able and willing, say openly to both of them that if they decide between them for her to be a SAHM for X years, you will financially support that, but the decision is up to them. Then wait to see what they decide.

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