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AIBU?

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To feel like DIL wants the money but not a relationship with us?

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grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 14:43

My son and his wife have three children under 10. Over the years, my husband and I have supported them financially in many ways: we gave them a substantial deposit for their house, paid for years of nursery fees, gifted him a larger car when their family grew (as a result they own a car each), helped with holidays, and pay for 2 of the children’s private school, among other things.

We’ve always said we’re happy to support our children. We do it because we want our children to live a comfortable life, not expecting anything in return. But as a family we are close, and have always had a warm relationship. We’ve done the same for one of our daughters, who has two children and stays at home full-time. In her case, we help with monthly expenses so she doesn’t have to return to work. She’s warm, appreciative, involves us in her day-to-day life, and we feel like we’re part of their family.

My DIL, however, is a different story. She also wants to be a stay-at-home mum — but my son prefers that she keeps working part-time. He’s said she struggled quite badly with her mental health when she was home full-time during maternity leave (she’s admitted to this too), and that the structure and balance of part-time work is healthier for both of them. During each of her maternity leaves he said they’d argue far more and came close to divorce on a couple of occasions.

That said, she’s made it clear more than once that she expected us to step in financially so she could stop working, like our daughter has. She’s asked outright. We said no, kindly but firmly, because it’s not in our son’s interests. We’ve supported them in many other ways, but we’ve never agreed to fully fund a lifestyle that our own son isn’t comfortable with.

Since then, the tone with her has changed. She’s polite when we see each other, but cold. I’m never invited over unless my son arranges it (which is fine - we’re his family), but even then occasionally after he’s arranged it I’ll get a message or call giving me exact times when I have to leave. This isn’t at all like my son and I know by his voice this isn’t coming from him and he feels uncomfortable with the tight rules and restrictions on when his parents can visit. If I offer to babysit, she’s “already asked her mum.”, although she’s also mentioned her mum finds babysitting hard and has asked my son to pay for a regular babysitter or nanny during the week so she can have time off. If I drop things off for the kids, she’s stiff and awkward, like I’ve overstepped. She makes passive comments “well, some mums get to be at home”. Her own mum lives further away but is at their house far more often than I am.

There are other things too. My daughter (who is close to my son) told me he actually got into trouble recently for taking the children to see us one Saturday while DIL was out with a friend. She’d apparently told him she wanted him to spend the day “just with the kids,” as if including their grandparents somehow made it less valid.

And one incident still sits badly with me. I had pre-arranged a quick Sunday morning visit, brought pastries which they’ve previously liked, and while she was polite, as I left, I clearly heard her say: “I just don’t want them getting used to seeing her this often.” For context: we live 15 minutes away, and I see the children once a week for a few hours, sometimes less.

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs. If she thinks she sees too much of me, I don’t want to impose. I was going to position it as “you deserve a break!” but truthfully, I just feel worn down. If I’m not wanted in the day-to-day, maybe I’ll put my energy into the bits where I am welcome.

AIBU to feel like she wants the benefits of having generous in-laws — without actually having to deal with us? I’ve never overstepped, I’ve never criticised her parenting, I’ve done everything “right”… and I still feel like I’m being treated as a bit of a problem.

OP posts:
cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 15:57

@ginasevern exactly

RadioWhatsNew · 26/07/2025 15:57

@grannyhasaq how old are you DDs children and how old are you DS children?

R0ckandHardPlace · 26/07/2025 15:57

”Yes of course we’ll pay for all your house deposit, your nursery fees, the children’s school fees, for your car, AND give you money for you to stay at home and not have to work! Anything else? A cleaner? A pony? A live-in masseuse?” What an entitled little brat! How old is she, expecting her in-laws to bankroll a lavish lifestyle for her?

Explain to her that you are paying HER children’s school fees. Her children are her (and your son’s) responsibility. You are not going to do that if she isn’t prepared to make her own financial contribution to the family.

saraclara · 26/07/2025 15:57

I was absolutely with you until you mentioned the Disney thing @grannyhasaq . Which is so spiteful and destructive that I could barely believe what I was reading.

Yes DIL is being grabby, and. it's ridiculous for her to expect you to do for her what you'd do for your own daughter. Especially when they, as a couple, have had, and continue to have, such a lot of financial help.

But seriously, your holiday idea is beyond spiteful.

justasking111 · 26/07/2025 15:59

My friends has a sister who is insanely jealous of her. Friend and husband have worked hard to make a home, raise children with no financial support from family.

Sister on the other hand lives in a lovely home in-laws bought in a posh area of London. She doesn't work, husband self employed work up and down so parents help out financially at times.

Financially she wants for nothing. But she's so unhappy she's fallen out with her family and his. It's really baffling because both families are loving people who adore their grandchildren yet visiting is severely rationed by her.

Her children are more invisible than Prince Harry's and that's saying something. They never come to family events, they've cousins, aunts, uncles, they've never met.

It's bizarre. Takes all kinds I suppose.

prelovedusername · 26/07/2025 16:00

If she wants to live a certain way, dress well etc, they clearly aren’t in financial need. There’s no reason for you to give them money so don’t. If you have it to spare, put it aside in a trust for the DGC’s education or FTB deposit, they might be glad of it in the future.

The extent to which you fund your DC is your business but it seems excessive. Your DD not working has implications for her future state pension, so it’s not necessarily helping her in the long run.

I think there are issues between your DS and DIL that you’d do better to keep out of.

WizardOfAus · 26/07/2025 16:00

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 15:19

I don’t know 100% of details on their finances but from what I can deduce and the things they’ve said, his salary pays for family expenses (mortgage, bills, holidays, food, activities, meals out, kids’ activities, housekeeper, private healthcare including private maternity etc) and her salary is more like “play money” for herself so to be used on her sport, dinner with friends, new pair of sunglasses, hairdressers, clothes etc

It sounds like you know 100% the details of their finances and that is fucking odd.

I’ve never sat down with my mother, father or MIL and FIL and told them how we spend our family money. How do you know all this?!

JayJayj · 26/07/2025 16:01

Lots to unpack and obviously only one side of the story.

She could have had PPD/PPA which is why she struggled during maternity. Maybe your son wasn’t very supportive. I struggled going back to work 4 days a week so I dropped my role and work 14 hours a week doing 2 overnight shifts. That way I am SAHM 90%.
I can fully understand why she would want to be home and think it’s unfair of her husband to not at least trial it.

The money situation, if you want to help then help but it shouldn’t come with stipulations.

I would also be annoyed if, a day my husband gets to have with his children, to spend some quality time with them. And he decides to not do that. It is a problem. Why can’t he spend one on one time with them without you?

You wanting to take them to Disney land without her says a lot about you. What a vindictive thing to do. I can see why your DIL probably doesn’t like you.

MounjaroMounjaro · 26/07/2025 16:01

I wouldn't bet my house on them staying married for much longer, OP. You're wrong about the holiday - I think your common sense has gone out of the window with that one - but I can see she's a piece of work and is giving you the cold shoulder.

As others have said, I'd try to arrange a time once a week where she gets a break and you see your son with the kids. As for money, if you have any spare I'd put it to one side for after they split up.

Starlight7080 · 26/07/2025 16:02

Well paying for everything seems nice but really you just make it so they can't look after themselves.
And makes them behave like spoilt adults.

needNC · 26/07/2025 16:02

ResidentPorker · 26/07/2025 14:55

YANBU. She sounds like a spoilt ungrateful bitch. But you’re a MIL so according to some on here you’re the devil.

This !

Radionowhere · 26/07/2025 16:03

Hankunamatata · 26/07/2025 14:56

You pay for dd to be a sahp (whoch blows my mind tbh). Dil asked the same and you said no so she doesnt feel like she is family.
You son needs to man up and tell her that he was the one who said for parents not to fund this

Edited

This. But also, you sound suffocating. It's not for your DIL to refuse financial assistance that your son would accept, to the detriment of their children, but equally it's fairly obvious she struggles with the access you clearly feel it should afford you to her family unit.

heroinechic · 26/07/2025 16:04

R0ckandHardPlace · 26/07/2025 15:57

”Yes of course we’ll pay for all your house deposit, your nursery fees, the children’s school fees, for your car, AND give you money for you to stay at home and not have to work! Anything else? A cleaner? A pony? A live-in masseuse?” What an entitled little brat! How old is she, expecting her in-laws to bankroll a lavish lifestyle for her?

Explain to her that you are paying HER children’s school fees. Her children are her (and your son’s) responsibility. You are not going to do that if she isn’t prepared to make her own financial contribution to the family.

Oh yes, weaponise the children by threatening to remove them from school unless she dances to your tune. Brilliant. That’ll help.

Tauranga · 26/07/2025 16:04

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 15:19

I don’t know 100% of details on their finances but from what I can deduce and the things they’ve said, his salary pays for family expenses (mortgage, bills, holidays, food, activities, meals out, kids’ activities, housekeeper, private healthcare including private maternity etc) and her salary is more like “play money” for herself so to be used on her sport, dinner with friends, new pair of sunglasses, hairdressers, clothes etc

I think this post is made up, completely.

The scenario where your son can afford a housekeeper, and your DIL has a job which pays for her sports and sunglasses makes little sense. There is more than enough cash for her to SAH.

You are just having a lovely daydream.

diddl · 26/07/2025 16:04

If I had the chance to be a sahm & my husband vetoed it I'd probably be pissed off!

She perhaps sees it as her kids being treated differently?

JHound · 26/07/2025 16:06

Everybody in this sounds terrible.

  1. You are using money to buy influence and access

  2. Your DIL is controlling

  3. You son has no backbone to speak of.

SchoolDilemma17 · 26/07/2025 16:06

You have spoiled them all too much and are trying to buy affection by buying more and more. Now DIL is super entitled too and thinks you owe her a lifestyle. What a dysfunctional mess all around. Why can’t none of your kids fund their own families?

needNC · 26/07/2025 16:07

Pollqueen · 26/07/2025 15:21

In all the years I've been on MN and all the awful MIL threads I've read, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that they'd be interested in hearing the MIL's side. Just saying

Exactly my thoughts!

JHound · 26/07/2025 16:07

diddl · 26/07/2025 16:04

If I had the chance to be a sahm & my husband vetoed it I'd probably be pissed off!

She perhaps sees it as her kids being treated differently?

I mean she is not their daughter so why would she expect to be treated the same as their daughter.

Cosyblankets · 26/07/2025 16:07

I think the whole set up is strange tbh. I was brought up with a good work ethic. To work and save and be independent. I cannot imagine being funded by my parents as an adult.

Wrapetywrap · 26/07/2025 16:09

I think the OP need to cut the umbilical cord for both kids. I think you are far too involved and none of this is normal.

Your DC both have multiple children themselves are aren't able tobe fully financially responsible for them and rely on you instead? What is wrong with all of them. Why are they all so workshy and entitled. It's a total mess and of your own making. DIL sounds like hard work too.

WiddlinDiddlin · 26/07/2025 16:09

I can see why the pass-ag Disney thing seems appealing but it would make things so very much worse.

Rise above it, it is the only thing you can do.

It also feels like DIL is blaming you for her not being able to be a SAHM - I wonder if your DS is letting her think that to some degree, if so, thats something he/they need to sort out between them, it's really not for you to stick your oar in.

I suspect there is some underlying issue with the difference in their earning capacity - he has it all, high income, generous and wealthy parents... she hasn't. Again, that is something they need to sort out for themselves or it will destroy their relationship.

thiswilloutme · 26/07/2025 16:10

my late MIL was amazing, they were wealthy compared with us - and helped us with things like house deposits etc. What happened, financially, between ExH and his parents was their concern. I never engaged with it, either practically or emotionally. When money did come in however it was family money and we both decided how it should be spent.

I did make sure though that I never expected a lifestyle that I could not fund from my own salary should the marriage end. So from my POV DIL is being unreasonable.

When it did end (yes, the younger, thinner OW that he worked with - so predicable 🤷🏼‍♀️) my relationship with MIL turned out to be rock solid and we continued to be supportive friends until her death many years later.

Having said that - there was no way on earth my MIL would have suggested anything like the Disney trip. I saw her bite her tongue when dealing with other obnoxious spouses of her offspring and making sure everyone was treated equally. she would not have even contemplated anything so spiteful.

The very fact you can think this is OK says a lot about you tbh @grannyhasaq

diddl · 26/07/2025 16:10

JHound · 26/07/2025 16:07

I mean she is not their daughter so why would she expect to be treated the same as their daughter.

Because it's about the kids not just her?

Like a lot of situations though probably neither party is completely good or bad!

Scentedjasmin · 26/07/2025 16:11

The fact is that you absolutely favour your son and own daughter. You see your grandchildren once a week, which is quite a lot, especially when it will involve you DIL giving up her time too to host/clean the house, when i'm sure that she'd rather be relaxing. You bought your son a car. Yes, she benefits from the arrangement, but I guarantee that you were thinking of your son more than her when you did so. Why should it be for your son to decide how much she works? The fact that she may well have had pnd after the kids were born doesn't mean that she should be punished for it now. It's as though she is being denied a voice and you are complicit in it. Of course your relationship with your own daughter is closer. That's to be expected. That doesn't mean that your dil is automatically cold. It very much comes across as though she is not seen as an equal member of the family and as though you expect to be able to input into her and her kids lives, including seeing them regularly and taking them away without her. You expect to buy access to your grandchildren and expect her to be grateful whilst not treating her the same as your daughter.