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To feel like DIL wants the money but not a relationship with us?

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grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 14:43

My son and his wife have three children under 10. Over the years, my husband and I have supported them financially in many ways: we gave them a substantial deposit for their house, paid for years of nursery fees, gifted him a larger car when their family grew (as a result they own a car each), helped with holidays, and pay for 2 of the children’s private school, among other things.

We’ve always said we’re happy to support our children. We do it because we want our children to live a comfortable life, not expecting anything in return. But as a family we are close, and have always had a warm relationship. We’ve done the same for one of our daughters, who has two children and stays at home full-time. In her case, we help with monthly expenses so she doesn’t have to return to work. She’s warm, appreciative, involves us in her day-to-day life, and we feel like we’re part of their family.

My DIL, however, is a different story. She also wants to be a stay-at-home mum — but my son prefers that she keeps working part-time. He’s said she struggled quite badly with her mental health when she was home full-time during maternity leave (she’s admitted to this too), and that the structure and balance of part-time work is healthier for both of them. During each of her maternity leaves he said they’d argue far more and came close to divorce on a couple of occasions.

That said, she’s made it clear more than once that she expected us to step in financially so she could stop working, like our daughter has. She’s asked outright. We said no, kindly but firmly, because it’s not in our son’s interests. We’ve supported them in many other ways, but we’ve never agreed to fully fund a lifestyle that our own son isn’t comfortable with.

Since then, the tone with her has changed. She’s polite when we see each other, but cold. I’m never invited over unless my son arranges it (which is fine - we’re his family), but even then occasionally after he’s arranged it I’ll get a message or call giving me exact times when I have to leave. This isn’t at all like my son and I know by his voice this isn’t coming from him and he feels uncomfortable with the tight rules and restrictions on when his parents can visit. If I offer to babysit, she’s “already asked her mum.”, although she’s also mentioned her mum finds babysitting hard and has asked my son to pay for a regular babysitter or nanny during the week so she can have time off. If I drop things off for the kids, she’s stiff and awkward, like I’ve overstepped. She makes passive comments “well, some mums get to be at home”. Her own mum lives further away but is at their house far more often than I am.

There are other things too. My daughter (who is close to my son) told me he actually got into trouble recently for taking the children to see us one Saturday while DIL was out with a friend. She’d apparently told him she wanted him to spend the day “just with the kids,” as if including their grandparents somehow made it less valid.

And one incident still sits badly with me. I had pre-arranged a quick Sunday morning visit, brought pastries which they’ve previously liked, and while she was polite, as I left, I clearly heard her say: “I just don’t want them getting used to seeing her this often.” For context: we live 15 minutes away, and I see the children once a week for a few hours, sometimes less.

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs. If she thinks she sees too much of me, I don’t want to impose. I was going to position it as “you deserve a break!” but truthfully, I just feel worn down. If I’m not wanted in the day-to-day, maybe I’ll put my energy into the bits where I am welcome.

AIBU to feel like she wants the benefits of having generous in-laws — without actually having to deal with us? I’ve never overstepped, I’ve never criticised her parenting, I’ve done everything “right”… and I still feel like I’m being treated as a bit of a problem.

OP posts:
Summerhillsquare · 26/07/2025 15:40

Just spend some time (and not money! ) appreciating how utterly privileged you are, and stop trying to control one another.

ZingyLemonMoose · 26/07/2025 15:40

I assume your son does 50% of the childcare, cooking, cleaning etc if he is able to dictate whether she does paid work or not? If not, maybe you could subsidise him going part time so that he can. Or perhaps pay a cleaner and meal subscription so you aren’t totally favouring your daughters family over your sons.

I have to say, if you were my MIL and would only help if my husband allowed it, I’d sack you all off and none of you would be dictating how much I had to be away from my children.

joliefolle · 26/07/2025 15:41

MumWifeOther · 26/07/2025 15:40

He doesn’t want his wife not working at all and she can only afford it if his parents fund this. He has legitimate reasons for this. They agree with him. They don’t have to treat their DIL the same as their daughter.

So give your two children the same amount of money and the DS decides how to use his (i.e. not funding his wife being a SAHM).

diddl · 26/07/2025 15:41

Your DIL is a CF and no doubt sees your daughter living a certain lifestyle. And believes she deserves the same.

Looking at it simplistically, why don't her kids deserve to have her at home as much as daughter's children?

Why does her husband get to veto that?

taybert · 26/07/2025 15:41

The mistake you’ve made is funding specific aspects of your children’s lifestyles. It’s kind to help out but dictating what they spend money on is always going to lead to situations like this where you have too much in the say of the lives of grown adults. Mat leave is different to being a SAHM to older children and she’s presumably got reasons she wants to do that. Whilst you don’t owe her anything, maybe she’d prefer a smaller car, the kids at state school and not to work (which would’ve saved the nursery fees) but it’s not an option even though there’s money around. She probably feels a bit trapped by the help you do provide. The question of whether she works or not should be one entirely decided between your son and her, with no interference from anyone else.

If you want to help your children and their families just give them money and let them choose how to spend it as a couple/family. Don’t create a scenario where you’re “helping” in a way that sides with your son to keep your DIL doing something she is unhappy with.

godmum56 · 26/07/2025 15:41

MumWifeOther · 26/07/2025 15:36

She sounds very ungrateful and entitled, and I wish I had a MIL like you 🥰

who gets involved with making decisions about your health?.....no not gets involved, sticks her beak in.

Ooodelally · 26/07/2025 15:41

She sounds a spoilt little madam but the Disney idea is batshit and will undermine your whole argument entirely!

Digdongdoo · 26/07/2025 15:42

This is a mess of your own creation. If you want to give money to your DC, give them each the same amount and let them decide what to do with it. You're way too involved in their personal lives. Boundaries are way too blurred. You're using money as control and it's not healthy.

JLou08 · 26/07/2025 15:43

You told her the money you give is for what is in your sons best interests, not your grandchildren, not your DIL. So no, I don't think she is happy taking your money but not having a relationship. You made it clear all gifted money is for what your son wants only. DIL isn't taking your money, your son is.

TheMimsy · 26/07/2025 15:43

@grannyhasaq the amount you give both your children - is it equal over the last 10 years or so? Does it kinda balance out?. Like maybe son had help with a large mortgage deposit - but daughters had more regular smaller amounts and over x many years it’s balanced out?

TheOtherAgentJohnson · 26/07/2025 15:43

justasking111 · 26/07/2025 15:37

Financially it's very savvy advice to pay school fees etc to avoid some of the tax burden upon death.

Imagine you'd won many millions on the lottery you could pay off your kids mortgages, pay school fees, hire a lear jet for family holidays to St Kitts, no queueing in passport control.

Well I can dream can't I 😂

Yes it totally makes sense financially, there’s only so much you can do for yourself with pots of cash anyway. It’s the attached strings that cause the problems, and it’s very common for monied people to use it for control.

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 15:43

@justasking111 it is, we aren't in that league but we received a 6 fig sum to limit later iht later. It was from the in-laws but very clear it was our family not just DH.

TheFormidableMrsC · 26/07/2025 15:44

tattychicken · 26/07/2025 14:59

I think she is very obviously being treated as " less than" your children, and your son isn't handling the situation well.

I think you should have a conversation just with her about how she feels about working/SAHM. You let your son decide for her by the sounds of it. Has she actually got a voice? Does your son listen to her?

The being annoyed that he took the children to yours could be unreasonable, or actually quite understandable. I used to get irritated when if I had a very infrequent day out, DH suddenly went to visit his parents for the day, knowing his Mum would fuss round the kids and sort lunch and pick up the pieces for him. I wanted him to eg take them to the zoo, take them swimming, do something with them, just him and them. I felt he was serving the work and responsibility and passing them on to his Mum.

But why should she be treated the same? The OP is supporting her own children from which DIL is benefitting hugely. I think she’s got an absolute nerve. I can’t believe the cheek of her! Why can’t her parents pay for her to stay at home? What a greedy, grabby cow.

OP, I think you need to step back and stop being so generous. I also think you’d be wrong to invite your son and his kids on holiday and make her pay for herself. That will only inflame things.

mylovedoesitgood · 26/07/2025 15:45

This all sounds so unhealthy, using money to control your relationships, further confirmed with a really toxic plan to deliberately exclude your DIL from the Disney trip. There are always strings attached when it comes to giving away money, which you’re aware of. Think of the long game here - what if they split up and she gets full custody? You may see your grandkids even less than you do now.

JMSA · 26/07/2025 15:45

diddl · 26/07/2025 15:41

Your DIL is a CF and no doubt sees your daughter living a certain lifestyle. And believes she deserves the same.

Looking at it simplistically, why don't her kids deserve to have her at home as much as daughter's children?

Why does her husband get to veto that?

It’s not the in-laws’ job to fund that! 😄

ItsameLuigi · 26/07/2025 15:46

SayNoToStilton · 26/07/2025 15:28

Where to even start with this!
I’d be totally lying if I said I didn’t wish someone would throw money at me and my kids to have a clearly very comfortable standard of living. BUT if accepting that generosity meant never feeling like I had a voice within my own household and when it came to my own children, I would be furious.
I do think it raises eyebrows that DIL would actually have the front to ask you to pay for her to be a SAHM when you are already shelling out thousands in school fees etc, but on the topic of entitlement as others have said the Disney suggestion is very telling as to your clear feelings of entitlement.

Agree with you so much. My mum would always offer to pay for things, give me large sums of money for my kids but then if I said no to her visiting, she would flip out. We have a tricky relationship and I wasn't always up for seeing her mentally. I explained many times I'd prefer her to not give me money/gifts if it means I owe her, she'd deny it but then bring it up anytime she didn't get what she wants. Not saying it's what the OPs doing just found your reply very relatable.

hmmimnotsurewhy · 26/07/2025 15:46

Anunusualone · 26/07/2025 14:51

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs

please say you’re joking

and IF your son accepted this offer, you should be utterly ashamed of him.

I wouldn’t want you within a 5 mile radius of my children in your DIL’s shoes

Your DIL has entered the thread.

Digdongdoo · 26/07/2025 15:48

TheFormidableMrsC · 26/07/2025 15:44

But why should she be treated the same? The OP is supporting her own children from which DIL is benefitting hugely. I think she’s got an absolute nerve. I can’t believe the cheek of her! Why can’t her parents pay for her to stay at home? What a greedy, grabby cow.

OP, I think you need to step back and stop being so generous. I also think you’d be wrong to invite your son and his kids on holiday and make her pay for herself. That will only inflame things.

Well exactly. OP is supporting her DC, not DIL. DIL doesn't need to be grateful for a financial arrangement that comes with strings and isn't intended to benefit her in the first place. Perhaps she'd rather forgo the private school and new car in favour of more autonomy.

Caerulea · 26/07/2025 15:49

Ew. No one is looking great here.

Shitmonger · 26/07/2025 15:49

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 15:06

@tattychickenthe thing is, of course my children are dearer to me than a DIL or a SIL. Isn’t that obvious to any mother? Your child is your child.
she seems to tell him what he can and can’t do quite a lot, so I would guess she does have a voice?
regarding the time when he came to see us, he frequently has the kids alone and just spends time with them alone, but equally sometimes he will come to see us. Definitely not every time, far from it.

she seems to tell him what he can and can’t do quite a lot, so I would guess she does have a voice?

It doesn’t sound like she does. Your son is making major life decisions for her because he thinks he knows what’s best for her better than she knows herself. Your son is controlling and she doesn’t like you because she feels like the two of you are against her.

heroinechic · 26/07/2025 15:49

First things first, you have been very generous and that is kind of you.

However, it sounds like you would help them out if she was a SAHM, but only if your son approves, and that’s the tricky bit. She probably feels like she has very little control over the arrangements. What her husband says, goes. It’s possible that she feels like things are conditional and comes with you exerting some control over her/their lives.

Why are you concerned with your son’s interests and not hers or the three children? If her being a SAHM would give her more time to cook nutritious meals, give them more quality time, focus on educational exercises etc then it may be in the best interests of your grandchildren.

Offering to pay for a holiday for everyone but her is an awful idea, and guaranteed to cause problems for you. If your son would consider that, you haven’t raised him properly. Have you tried things like this before? It would go a long way to explaining her behaviour.

Catswhiskers3 · 26/07/2025 15:53

I think you should treat both families the same
If you give your daughter money
You should give your son the same money
What they do with it is up to them
Anything else is unfair and likely to cause resentment

Catswhiskers3 · 26/07/2025 15:54

You sound very involved and controlling
Your Dil is trying to keep you at arms length
With good reason

ginasevern · 26/07/2025 15:56

This is the problem when parents or in-laws are so, so generous with their children. It's one thing to help out now and then (a broken boiler maybe) but this is basically subsidising them. As a result there will be unfulfilled expectations on both sides and over-enmeshment. None of which ever ends well.

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 15:56

But why should she be treated the same? The OP is supporting her own children from which DIL is benefitting hugely. I think she’s got an absolute nerve. I can’t believe the cheek of her! Why can’t her parents pay for her to stay at home? What a greedy, grabby cow.

She doesn't need to be treated the same but the OP shouldn't be expected to be treated like the DIL mum. Treated both families equally will result in less friction. Presume her parents aren't funding any of their dcs lives, not many can't afford to do that.