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To feel so upset about the death of Diogo Jota?

202 replies

Anfieldgirl · 03/07/2025 21:25

I obviously didn't know him personally but I am a Liverpool fan and see him on the pitch every week. I just feel so upset by it, crying reading all the tributes. His poor poor family, to lose the 2 brothers. So sad.

OP posts:
murasaki · 04/07/2025 23:16

Well they have to investigate, at this point there is no proof.

Sakura7 · 04/07/2025 23:23

And maybe you could stop jumping to conclusions and let the investigation take place. Your posts are tone deaf and insensitive.

murasaki · 04/07/2025 23:27

Sakura7 · 04/07/2025 23:23

And maybe you could stop jumping to conclusions and let the investigation take place. Your posts are tone deaf and insensitive.

Agree, it's victim blaming at its finest. The police will do their investigation, until then, two young men are dead, their family devastated, and the football community and others mourn. And that stands whatever the police uncover.

BitOutOfPractice · 04/07/2025 23:30

Yanbu op. I’m a wolves fan and I feel really upset too. He was such an integral part of a special team for us, getting promoted, playing in Europe. He was really loved at the Molineux. He seemed such a genuine guy and always gave his all for the team. A really sad loss to football and, more importantly, his family.

I find the speculation on this thread and elsewhere really distasteful tbh.

AngelofIslington · 04/07/2025 23:38

@simsbustinoutmimiplease don’t apologise to @BeliesBeliefon my behalf.
For someone to say, of someone who had just died hours earlier, “he had no right to endanger other road user” when they are purely speculating on the cause of the accident and the fact that he was actually driving is disgusting and I stand by that.

curtaintwitcher78 · 04/07/2025 23:46

BitOutOfPractice · 04/07/2025 23:30

Yanbu op. I’m a wolves fan and I feel really upset too. He was such an integral part of a special team for us, getting promoted, playing in Europe. He was really loved at the Molineux. He seemed such a genuine guy and always gave his all for the team. A really sad loss to football and, more importantly, his family.

I find the speculation on this thread and elsewhere really distasteful tbh.

I agree. They don't know what happened and they're condemning him, but I bet half of them love Ant MacPartlin despite what he did.

ChitterChatter1987 · 04/07/2025 23:48

BeliesBelief · 03/07/2025 22:57

To be honest, yes and no.

I feel sorry for his wife and children, and his parents who have lost two sons in one night.

But it seems fairly likely his death was due to dangerous driving, and if that is confirmed, I have very little sympathy for him. Frankly, he’s lucky he didn’t take out any innocent strangers too - would there be such an outpouring of grief if his decision to drive at excessive speeds had killed a child, or a family, as well as himself? His legacy would certainly be tarnished.

I think there are few things more selfish than deliberate dangerous driving - be that speeding, driving under the influence, whatever. He had no right to endanger other road users.

Nobody else anywhere seems to be saying it, but I agree with this.

Of course it's incredibly tragic, especially for his parents, his wife, his children, his football club.
But I was only saying to DH earlier that many people die in similar situations every day.And a life is a life, celebrity or otherwise.

Ultimately, life is fragile, and especially as a parent you have to take responsibility to protect yourself from taking purposeful risks which could mean you lose it all and leave them without you.

Supercars are like wild cats.... you have to tread carefully as if you aren't careful with them then things can easily go wrong.

My thoughts are with those left behind.
Thank goodness nobody else (eg: in the car they were overtaking was hurt)

simsbustinoutmimi · 04/07/2025 23:49

curtaintwitcher78 · 04/07/2025 23:46

I agree. They don't know what happened and they're condemning him, but I bet half of them love Ant MacPartlin despite what he did.

Dangerous driving is scummy, whoever does it. Celebrity or no celebrity.

curtaintwitcher78 · 04/07/2025 23:51

simsbustinoutmimi · 04/07/2025 23:49

Dangerous driving is scummy, whoever does it. Celebrity or no celebrity.

I totally agree with you.

Sakura7 · 04/07/2025 23:51

simsbustinoutmimi · 04/07/2025 23:49

Dangerous driving is scummy, whoever does it. Celebrity or no celebrity.

Stop with the speculation, please. You don't know anything.

simsbustinoutmimi · 04/07/2025 23:51

Sakura7 · 04/07/2025 23:51

Stop with the speculation, please. You don't know anything.

I’m responding to the person who mentioned ant mcpartlin

ChessorBuckaroo · 04/07/2025 23:55

BitOutOfPractice · 04/07/2025 23:30

Yanbu op. I’m a wolves fan and I feel really upset too. He was such an integral part of a special team for us, getting promoted, playing in Europe. He was really loved at the Molineux. He seemed such a genuine guy and always gave his all for the team. A really sad loss to football and, more importantly, his family.

I find the speculation on this thread and elsewhere really distasteful tbh.

Agree completely. It's all about the family.

I'm a Liverpool fan and the overriding feeling is the devastation for his (and Andre's) poor family. The pictures of Jota and his wife at their wedding from last Sunday week and of them as teenagers, it's heartbreaking.

To have your wedding and then your funeral at the same venue inside a fortnight, it's hard to take in. The moments he gave us as a player are special of course, but it's his family who will feel this loss the most. Three kids, and the youngest, a wee girl, who will barely remember him. We are all just gutted for them.

burblish · 05/07/2025 00:06

This thread is a place for posters to express their sadness over a tragedy and their sympathy for the two young men who died and for the grieving people who loved them.

I just don't understand the mentality of those who are too tone deaf or driven by their own agendas to be respectful of that. Nobody is asking YOU to mourn the loss of Diogo Jota and Andre Silva, so why are you deliberately and persistently trying to derail the thread? Seriously, just why?

murasaki · 05/07/2025 00:09

What @burblish said with bells on.

MidnightMoon24 · 05/07/2025 00:14

Anyone speculating about speeding ect should be ashamed of themselves. From news reports so far it is a tragic accident and 2 siblings lost far too young. Liverpool fan here and the tributes from the people who really knew them speak far louder than members on mumsnet who seem to know more than the police investigating.

simsbustinoutmimi · 05/07/2025 00:15

Yes, brutal for the family and their children, who will grow up without their fathers.

CarCrashLifes · 05/07/2025 00:23

Not unreasonable at all. I’m not a Liverpool fan but a football fan and the death at his age with his recent marriage and small children is so very very sad and has upset me greatly

Flupflup · 05/07/2025 00:26

Cannot be bothered to comment on the whataboutery but as a Mother I cannot imagine dealing with my two sons dying in such a horrible way . I send my massive condolences to the boys parents and their family. Absolutely tragic,whatever the reason.

StrikeForever · 05/07/2025 00:28

simsbustinoutmimi · 04/07/2025 22:59

A god cannot control people’s actions, we have free will and he chose to speed dangerously in a car

You don’t know that and since you believe in God, I have to say, your comment isn’t very Christian is it?

MidnightMoon24 · 05/07/2025 00:34

simsbustinoutmimi · 04/07/2025 22:59

A god cannot control people’s actions, we have free will and he chose to speed dangerously in a car

Also reported your post. Were you there at the time? Do you know this as a fact? Speculation at best.

simsbustinoutmimi · 05/07/2025 00:45

MidnightMoon24 · 05/07/2025 00:34

Also reported your post. Were you there at the time? Do you know this as a fact? Speculation at best.

I’ve linked to someone else who asked the same thing as you below. There’s a news article. If you care to google “Diego Jota police investigate speeding” ‘I’m sure it (and many other articles) will come up.

there is a reason my post hasn’t been removed because I linked a reliable source

murasaki · 05/07/2025 00:48

Yes, they have to investigate. It doesn't mean it's true.

simsbustinoutmimi · 05/07/2025 00:49

murasaki · 05/07/2025 00:48

Yes, they have to investigate. It doesn't mean it's true.

The reality is, a car does not end up crunched like that if it’s a simple case of a tyre blowing out while driving at a sensible speed.

DCorMe · 05/07/2025 00:50

As a lifelong Liverpool fan who has been grieving for the last two days, you are absolutely NBU. Can you imagine his team mates walking back in on Monday after the funeral to training.
Unexpected death is so hard to process.

and now to family who my heart lies with - their parents, girlfriend, wife and children. Unimaginable as a mother to lose both of your children in one fell swoop.

YNWA and will all be our 20