To feel so upset about the death of Diogo Jota?

[Anfieldgirl]

I obviously didn't know him personally but I am a Liverpool fan and see him on the pitch every week. I just feel so upset by it, crying reading all the tributes. His poor poor family, to lose the 2 brothers. So sad.

Back at you - you made two completely untrue and unsubstantiated claims, and I simply refuted them.

@BeliesBelief It reflects so, so poorly on you that you have disrespectfully encouraged people to rubberneck at images of the wreckage of the car in which two young men died, in your ghoulish glee to prove you somehow know more than the official investigators at this point. Sickening. Your time would be better served by taking a long, hard look at yourself instead.

I quoted what I’d read last night. I now see they haven’t confirmed the driver. The wording in the statement I saw said there was “no suggestion of dangerous driving”, presumably to steer people away from speculation until the investigation was carried out. Yet here we are.

Diogo Jota had had lung surgery and had pulmonary discomfort, which is why he didn't fly.

It doesn't fit the profile of a speeder for me.

They were travelling at 12.30am, it could have been the combination of the dark, tiredness and the tyre blowing out.

We simply don't know.

Do you understand or feel any empathy? (Just generally speaking in any circumstance).

Could you imagine being upset that someone has died and being told that it was “probably their own fault” by someone who has very little evidence for that assumption?

I’m just really struggling to understand the basis of your interactions here, and why you want to cause further distress to people who are saddened by someone’s death- is this just reflective of you as a person? Is it rewarding/satisfying for you to know you’ve caused that? It’s such an intriguing (if not fairly horrifying) aspect of someone’s character.

Some of the assumptions on here are just bloody awful. Why do people have to point fingers and jump to conclusions.
Even if the car was going faster than the limit do people really think the two deaths were justified or less tragic? Remember that some roads are 100 kph limits, get a blow out at that speed and your chance of controlling a car is minimal.

Surely we can just feel bloody sad that 2 young brothers, with so much infront of them, have died in such a horrific accident.
Diogo and Andre were the only children so their parents have lost both children in one accident.
And please let's not forget Andre, he may not have been as well known to the public but he was still their son.

Imagine being such a sad pathetic individual that you get your kicks out of slagging off people who died in a tragic accident online.
making shit up just to try and justify your own sanctimonious point of view
It must be such a sad lonely little life to live like that

There are always people on MN ready and mounted on their high horse about driving.

Those lads were on the motorways up to Santander. I've driven them many times, they're quiet roads, especially late at night. The speed limit is 120kmph—that's not a magic number that would keep them safe. Whether they were on it, under, or over it, a blown out tyre would likely be impossible to control.

It's not gloating, don't be ridiculous.

The other thread was ruined by self-appointed morality police. It's a discussion forum, get over it.

I follow lower league football, but tbh was only vaguely aware of him before yesterday.

It's still very sad. I think the combination of circumstances, his brother being with him, the very recent wedding and young children, the fact that he was only driving because of the op.

I also think when we hear of these tragedies involving footballers we "want" to think they were being reckless, which means similar could never happen to us and ours, but that doesn't appear to be the case here.

It’s devastating for the family. A distant relative lost both her sons in a road accident as well and her pain was awful to witness. She said you can’t grieve for both at the same time, you grieve them singularly and when you grieve for one, you feel guilty that you forgot your other son, and the pain is renewed.
Even though this was many years ago, it’s stayed with me.

People are allowed to find your attitude extremely distasteful and express that- it’s not a case of “getting over it”, people can rightly call out behaviour they find disgusting.

When I was a teenager, my seven year old cousin was killed when a 19 year old boy racer smashed into her family’s car. Her ten year old brother suffered a traumatic brain injury and has never been the same since - he was a bright and articulate boy who I’m sure would have achieved great things, but now he’s in his mid-fifties, has never moved out of his increasingly frail parents’s home, has regular seizures, and struggles to string a sentence together.

Incidentally, the 19 year old was killed too. I have no sympathy or empathy whatsoever for him. His stupid, reckless decisions - prioritising thrill-seeking over the safety of his fellow road users - wrecked an entire family’s lives. I have no respect for anyone who speeds and never will.

As a family, we support Wolves where Diogo Jota made his name in the UK before going to Liverpool. My 22 year old son was visibly upset yesterday as he was one of his heroes, along with all the other Portuguese players at that time.
An utter tragedy.
My sister lost her 26 year old son 3 years ago-to lose one is awful enough but two? No words.

You can call me all the names under the sun, my field of fucks lies barren.

I will always ask for facts though. I will also respect the grief of others and no amount of 'ooh deal with it' (couldn't you come up with anything more original?) will change that.

Very sorry to hear about the loss of your cousin and the injury caused to her brother. It must be very painful as a family and I can understand how that would impact your reaction to news of this nature.

So sorry to hear that. This footballer was lucky he did not kill anyone else on the road in the process. His brother is dead and I can’t imagine how his brothers family are feeling about this.

Whether his brother encouraged the speeding or not we will never know

My friend lost her son in a car accident. Yes, he was driving far too fast for the conditions and it's lucky no one else was killed.

He's still her son though. Do you think "knowing" it was his fault made the loss easier or harder to bear? What about everyone saying he got what he deserved on SM?

Feeling about what? You have absolutely no bloody idea what happened!

Also his brother's family is his family. Give over.

It was extremely sad and I've been heartbroken since reading the news. I did raise my eyebrows though when I read about Lambo + straight stretch of road + overtaking + past midnight. Yes the tyre blew out - but chances are you can probably control your car in this circumstance if you're doing 60mph. Not if you're doing 120mph.

I'm very biased about dangerous driving, that's because of personal circumstances, and while this incident is extremely sad I really do hope it didn't happen because of extreme speed. I really do hope so.

RIP, their. poor families 💔

Good for you. We have all now been thoroughly told about your view. Could you leave it there?

But when your tyre blew up, your car presumably didn't come out like a crunched up Coke can nor did it catch on fire.

It's extremely sad and I have to admit to shedding a tear or two, but really those supercars aren't really driven at reasonable speeds. Their vehicle was obliterated. I'd be surprised if it was being driven below 150mph when the incident happened. So very sad but the sadder thing is that it looks like it was potentially 100% avoidable.

I feel the same. I heard at work and just after had a meeting and I couldn’t focus. I felt a bit daft but at least it’s not just me. I am a Liverpool fan since 15yo and have just got back into them at the start of this season. Regardless of that he seemed like a lovely guy and his brother too. Can’t stop thinking about his mum and dad and his wife and kids.