To hope that Trump gets his Nobel Peace Prize?

[OhShutUpThomas]

I do not like anything about the man.

BUT, he is clearly after peace. I think he wants peace for two reasons; one, to enable more golf time, and two, to win a Nobel Peace Prize.
I don’t think the reason is because he is super kind and thoughtful or anything.

I think that his odd and unpredictable behaviour is starting to make other world leaders afraid of him (not to be confused with respect).
When others say ‘don’t do this or we will sanction you’ he says ‘don’t break your nuclear rules or I’ll bomb you’ and then proceeds to actually do so without delay.

This strange, autocratic, narcissistic style will either lead to huge issues, or might just be crazy enough to make other tyrants think twice about how they act. Enabling more time for golf.

I probably haven’t explained it very well. But his actions, whatever we think of them, have pretty much stopped the fledgling Israel/Iran war in its tracks. I wonder how long it would have gone on with nothing but disapproving glances and aid from the western world.

To reiterate: I don’t like Trump, I don’t think he’s right, but I do have to wonder whether his slightly unhinged leadership style might not scare the rest of the world into behaving a bit better.

YABU - I am talking rubbish
YANBU - I don’t like it either, but you might have a point

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You see funding a genocide and enabling ethnic cleansing as peaceful? You view humiliating Zelenskyy on the world stage and accusing him of starting the war as peaceful? Bringing the military onto the streets against his own citizens is peaceful?

YANBU. I think his bumbling, larger than life, supervillain persona is just that. He's not as stupid as he makes out. He's still an odious man though.

No I don’t see any of those things as peaceful.

What I’m saying is that I genuinely believe that, for his own selfish reasons, Trump wants peace in the wider world. And that if he is actually nuts enough to scare others into behaving better, that would only be a benefit surely?

I don’t mean that I think he’s right or clever.

He's capable of knocking heads together, I'll give him that, but he is a bullying, narcissistic, odious, dangerous clown, with not an ounce of style or grace, who will be remembered as a complete disaster for the USA and the world. I am a peaceful person, but I cannot help the feelings of disgust I get when I see him on the news, and I will take delight in his inevitable downfall and hopefully imprisonment 😀

Well, since he came to power he has shown marked support for Russia, the clear aggressor in the war in Ukraine, and there is all out war in the Middle East. So no, I don't think a peace prize is likely or deserved.

If he were to receive it, I think it would cease to mean anything at all.

I believe in peace too. Can I have it?

Trump doesn't want peace OP. He's an isolationist and wants to retract from international obligations. The Afghanistan occupation cost trillions and MAGA want to stop getting involved in protracted conflicts. There was a lot of internal tension over getting involved with Iran.

The problem with bullies is that sooner or later somebody hits you back. Unfortunately, we will all pay the price when someone does that to Trump.

Violence is not a route to peace. It is a route to simmering anger until the dam breaks.

A peace prize for unprovoked bombing?

He may want peace but his style and the division he creates not to mention his racism, misogyny, bullying, disablism etc mean he is not fit to win the nobel peace prize and if he does it will be tarnished and have lost all meaning

Trump bombing his way to people stopping bombing each other has the same vibe as hitting a child for hitting people. And it's about as affective, as we can see from the embarrassingly short time his ceasefire lasted. Also, I'm not completely sure he understands that a cease-fire isn't "peace".

Even if I agree with your premise, I don’t see that scaring others into submission is actually peace. And it certainly isn’t a peace that will hold.

No, I don’t think a man who renders citizens of his own nation to death prisons in another country will be getting a phone call from the committee.

If he truly wanted peace, he’d stop funding Isreal.

He's not as stupid as he makes out.
The thing is, Trump isn't portraying himself as stupid. He thinks he's the Best President Ever, and says so all the time.
Problem with that though is that he is actually just stupid, (and racist with multiple convictions, and a proven liar, and a rapist)

Make no mistake - everything Trump does is not for peace but in pursuit of his own self interests and that of the US. He sees everything as a business deal or opportunity, and if he thinks a particular country, war or skirmish is bad for business, he will quash it. But if it suits him, the country, or the right wing narrative, war is just fine. He’s not after peace, he’s after accolades and money.

So basically you're saying 'if we give him what he wants, perhaps he'll stop bullying everyone in the playground and be nice to us'.

If you can cite one example of that ever working - not at the level of international politics, necessarity, just at a primary school would do - then I'll certainly give your proposition some thought.

You are deeply naive

Can you guarantee free custard for all? If so, I support you 😀

You want a convicted rapist & felon to win the Nobel Peace Prize.

Trump is a perpetual liar and acts only to increase his, and is already obscenely wealth supporters, wealth. He doesn't abide by the laws of yhe country he presides over and threatens anyone who stands up to him.

The man deserves nothing but contempt.

Completely agree.
Putin so terrified of him that he ended the war on day one like he promised.

Israel so afraid of him that they break every pretend cease fire as soon as his back is turned.

Big strong man bring peace

I’m not sure that qualifies him for the Nobel Peace Prize though…

All of this.

He is only interested in money and self-glorification.