Anyone else terrified!!

[Netflixandchill25]

I’m starting to find all these deals between Trump and the dodgy Middle East nations quite scary. Latest being the AI deal with Abu Dhabi.

Not really

well... they are autocracies that support terrorism (SOME of them), abuse in the sense of don't give right to their foreign (non western) workers, give few right to women, torture and barbarously chop to pieces one of their citizens ... one could say more. Not saying the west hasn't spent a trillion dollars destroying iraq and afghanistan,, however, 2 wrongs don't make a right..

far too conservative- there is not always a "there are two sides to every story" to justifying giving a platform to extremists and whackjobs...

The South African president was in the white house today and thanks Trump for his role making progress with the war between Congo and Rwanda. I guess your precious BBC didn't mention this did they?

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/congo-rwanda-sign-agreement-peace-economic-development-washington-sources-say-2025-04-25/

And yet your scared of WWIII

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cpqe7rp388vt?post=asset%3Add1d9596-5fe8-4966-840c-7dea75e843f2#post

The BBC gave a blow by blow account of the meeting so it did reference this.

You're not very intelligent yourself.....
Sorry for the late reply, I have a life unlike you.

Well this post has aged like a fine wine…!!!!

@Netflixandchill25 no it hasn't

Not really, Trump reached out to Iran asking them to negotiate to avoid war and they were strong headed and dragged things out while continuing to build their nuclear weapon until Israel attacked yet according to you Trump started WWIII right?

https://apnews.com/article/iran-united-states-nuclear-negotiations-talks-82d23c70e0890808c64794487651f532

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2025-04/news/trump-sends-iran-letter-amid-military-threats

The Trump administration had multiple meetings with Iran with the next one supposed to take place today until Iran pulled out after the attacks. Please explain how Trump has started WWIII, go on???

You're so obsessed with blaming Trump for everything 😂 😆 while giving Iran a pass and I guess Israel isn't a sovereign country in its own right, it must be Trump. Israel has been wanting to attack Iran for a while now and Trump actually tried to delay it while pushing Iran to come to the table and reach a deal but somehow it's Trump's fault.

Even CNN which hates Trump acknowledges that Trump didn't want Israel to attack: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/06/12/politics/trump-israel-iran-strike-us-diplomacy

Trump has done way more than Biden did to try to prevent war, if the Iranian dictators don't want peace and Israel decides to attack that is not on Trump.

Let me tell you some things he has done for peace:

1. Intervened to help calm thing down between Pakistan and India that could have escalated.

https://www.npr.org/2025/05/10/g-s1-65664/pakistan-india-retaliation-underway

1. Negotiating with Congo and Rwanda to end the war which I guess you don't care about because it's not in Europe.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/us-pushes-june-peace-deal-between-rwanda-congo-2025-06-12/

1. In his first term he pushed the Abraham Accords in the Middle East which even Biden continued when he came into office. https://www.npr.org/2022/07/09/1110109088/biden-is-building-on-the-abraham-accords-part-of-trumps-legacy-in-the-middle-eas

Was it perfect no, but it was a big step forward, here is a summary:
"The Abraham Accords are a series of diplomatic agreements, primarily between Israel and several Arab nations, aimed at normalizing relations and fostering cooperation. These agreements were signed on September 15, 2020, with the United States playing a key role in mediating the deals. The initial agreements were between Israel and the United Arab Emirates, and Israel and Bahrain. Later, agreements were reached with Morocco and Sudan. "

1. He reached out to the Iranian leaders asking for negotiation while making it very very clear that they will not be allowed to build a nuclear weapon. Iran had the choice, negotiate an agreement or go down the path of destruction and they dragged things on and on while continuing to build the bond which was confirmed by an independent UN body recently:

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/iaea-board-declares-iran-breach-non-proliferation-duties-diplomats-say-2025-06-12/
But I guess you're also one of those who claim it's just for domestic energy use right???

1. Even though it didn't succeed he reached out North Korea to try to build bridges without violence.

Please explain what any of the current fighting has to do with Trump's economic deals with Saudi Arabia and the UAE etc? Is your argument that those deals caused this war??? The war that has been long running with tit for tats, or those deals caused Iran to sponsor terrorist groups like the Houthis to disrupt global shipping lines, or the Iranians to sponsor Hezbollah to kill over 1200 Israelis with many captured or the many actions to cause chaos in countries like Syria etc? That's all due to Trump and he deals with Saudi Arabia? You do realize countries Saudi Arabia will play a very important role in stabilizing the Middle East right and it's better to have good relationships with them? The Middle East has always been a volatile region.

The US has made it clear that they were not involved in the Israel attacks and will be forced to retaliate if Iran attacks any US based yet Iran has threatened not only the US but the UK but I guess it the US retaliates against an Iranian attack on a US base then it's all Trump's fault, because the BBCCCC told you so.

Do you blame Starmer for sending UK jets to the Middle East or your only issue is with Trump?
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/britain-moving-jets-middle-east-support-regional-security-pm-starmer-says-2025-06-14/

Glad someone is talking some sense on this thread.

As a teenager I was convinced we would die in some nuclear armageddon created by the Soviet/US nutters.

I've since learned it's only a 'state of fear' that those in power use to keep the majority in line. It used to be the 'fear' of going to hell.

If you turn the 'news' off then life carries on I've found. I do listen to the 'news' now but don't let it scare me.

And I still not afraid. My son died. I don’t fear death, part of me died that day. It will just be the rest of me following.

Some good news:

Rwanda and Congo have agreed a peace deal brokered by the Trump administration.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-deal-democratic-republic-congo-rwanda-war-mineral-resources/

https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2025/06/joint-statement-on-peace-talks-between-the-democratic-republic-of-the-congo-and-the-republic-of-rwanda-mediated-by-the-united-states-and-observed-by-the-state-of-qatar

I am hopeful they can reach an agreement with Israel and Iran with limited bloodshed but Iran plays a huge role in how this plays out. It's been made clear that Iran will not be allowed to own a nuclear weapon. And this US stance did not start with Trump, it's been a long running US policy and you can find videos of Obama, Biden etc all saying the same thing, Iran will NOT be allowed to own a nuclear weapon.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/06/19/politics/trump-iran-negotiations-pessimism

From what I see the Iranians have reached out to white house for talks and I believe the UK and EU governments are also engaged to try to help reach an agreement. This shows Trump is pushing for a peaceful solution not a war solution.

You don't have to be a Trump supporter to agree that this are good moves, acknowledging that this is good doesn't suddenly make you a MAGA supporter but we're so divided by politics now that we take that all or nothing stance which will not help us.

I stand by my earlier post that this has aged like a fine wine.

Not really, Iran retaliated as expected, a weak response where they notified the US ahead of sending missiles because they are trying to balance the response to save face but not push the US too much. They did the same a few years ago when the US killed their top general, sent missiles to cause some damage at a US base then screamed how they got revenge and death to America etc.

And FYI a potential ceasefire has been agreed. If it holds it would have been a very very successful short war. Irans ability to build a nuclear weapon has been setback which means peace for the region. Allowing Iran to have a nuclear weapon will lead to more disruption and conflicts.

Allowing Iran to have a nuclear weapon will kick off a nuclear arms race in the middle east, Saudi Arabia and a few others have already said they will pursue theirs if Iran gets one.

The Iranian regime is an evil murderous regime and frankly I hope they fall like Assad did in Syria but that's a decision for the Iranian people not the US. The heir to the Iranian Shah in exile has already started making noise about a return so hopefully it may increase agitation for change in Iran.

So sorry nothing aged like fine wine. The world is safer with Irans nuclear capabilities destroyed.

Seeking peace does not mean you don't take action when you need to, it means you pursue peace through strength but if idiots like the Ayatollahs continue to threaten the world and try to build nuclear weapons you act decisively.

I can assure you most governments are in the world are happy but they will pretend with their official statements. This removes a bit issue from the world, the Iranian regime is a murderous, evil, terrorist sponsoring regime and they got beat by Israel within a weak to show they are all talk and bark with no substance.

Btw are you still terrified or are you feeling better now???? 😂 In all seriousness there will not be WWIII, Russia or China will not fight the US for Iran, Iran is just not worth it. Irans terrorists supporters Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis are all weakened and staying out of it.

Iran has absolutely no chance against Israel alone not to talk or full fledged war against both the US and Israel so they have no choice but to negotiate after their token retaliation.

Trump is claiming a total ceasefire has been agreed by Iran and Israel.

Then Trump must be the happiest man alive.

But seriously, ignorance is not bliss. We have to be prepared for problems, and we won't be if we have no idea what problems we should prepare for. Mass ignorance is also what gets cunts like Trump elected.

There is a middle ground between being glued to the drama going on and ignoring current events entirely because something might be upsetting. We have to be strong enough to face reality and deal with it and we won't be if we avoid everything that's unpleasant.

So sorry to hear that. How terrible. 🩷
There is so much tragedy in the world.

Do you mean that a dodgy US government illegally attacked another nation? In that case then yes, this thread has aged like a fine wine.

@PhilomenaPunk given my OP was about Trump and his dodginess, yes, that’s exactly what I mean.

No your OP was not about Trump and his dodginess, you specifically said “Trump and dodgy Middle Eastern nations” which positioned it as Trump being non-dodgy and the Middle East being dodgy. Let’s not pretend otherwise shall we?

And again, Trump has shown himself to be the dodgy one with his illegal bombs against a country that was defending itself.