Anyone else terrified!!

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I’m starting to find all these deals between Trump and the dodgy Middle East nations quite scary. Latest being the AI deal with Abu Dhabi.

No amount of you being terrified is going to make an ounce of difference.

Go ask the indigenous People how valuable they think your contribution is...

Brits are entitled to have an opinion, it doesn't make it valid though.

Have you been living under a rock?

The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, the lad Trump's just done a deal, with is a violent misogynist who had a journalist called Jamal Khashoggi murdered for speaking out against his repressive regime.

In Saudi Arabia, homosexuality is a crime punishable by DEATH.

Is this genocidal dictator really the sort of man you want backing the West? Because wherever American goes, the UK follows.

Yeah, so once again, as this little inconvenience often is forgotten.

In the early 1600s, in rapid succession, the English began a colony (Jamestown) in Chesapeake Bay in 1607, the French built Quebec in 1608, and the Dutch began their interest in the region that became present-day New York. Within another generation, the Plymouth Company (1620), the Massachusetts Bay Company (1629), the Company of New France (1627), and the Dutch West India Company (1621) began to send thousands of colonists, including families, to North America. Successful colonization was not inevitable. Rather, interest in North America was a halting, yet global, contest among European powers to exploit these lands.
There is another very important point to keep in mind: European colonization and settlement of North America (and other areas of the so-called "new world") was an invasion of territory controlled and settled for centuries by Native Americans. To be sure, Native American control and settlement of that land looked different to European eyes. Nonetheless, Native American groups perceived the Europeans' arrival as an encroachment and they pursued any number of avenues to deal with that invasion.

https://www.loc.gov/classroom-materials/united-states-history-primary-source-timeline/colonial-settlement-1600-1763/overview/#:~:text=In%20the%20early%201600s%2C%20in,to%20deal%20with%20that%20invasion.

The US did not exist until 1776. Don’t blame us 😁

I hate to break it to you but the UK is already doing deals with Middle Eastern countries. And the West’s track record when it comes to genocide is pretty impressive already. My point has never been about whether or not countries in the Middle East are committing atrocities, but rather that this ridiculous sense of moral superiority the West seems to perceive itself to have is harmful, blatantly untrue and racist.

So again, why call the Middle East “dodgy” but not the West?

I was extremely worried in the early 80s when nuclear war was a real possibility. I'm concerned and somewhat depressed now but not terrified.

I mean they’re both colonisers so….(not an individual fighting back against a colonising entity.)

I mean we have been doing business with them for years. It’s not a new thing.

It’s still a colonising force. You don’t stop being colonisers because you stayed (and spread far beyond the original “colonies”).

I think that PPs point is the colonisers opinion as to whether the people they are oppressing are terrorists or not is never valid.

How much has Israel received from their bankers or is that different?

Yeah I don’t think that’s how it works.

So you haven't been here and don't understand it?

You want to tell me what it's like here without actually being here?

You lack any credibility and your opinion is worthless then.

That is unreasonable.

I would be more concerned about India and Pakistan myself. My partner was on a disaster planning call today for what they need to do if/when it goes nuclear. We are in the UK but they have offices in both countries, international Bank.

I am so so sorry this happened to your family. Nothing else in the wider world must seem that important right now x

It is.

Really? If colonization occurs 100 years prior by nation X to nation Y forming you think nation Y’s citizens do what… move somewhere else? How does that work? Where do they go? Not sure nation X is going to be keen to take them in.

Is it really that difficult for you to admit that the British Government historically has been one of the most prolific colonizers in history. What was that saying… Something sun something setting on the British flag?

I mean it’s hard to be smug and all when you as a nation are part of the problem.

Now sure anything past the point of nation Y forming is on them. But if you note a lot of the landmass in the US was purchased from other colonizers.

Since I believe this thread started with the SA (although I’ll admit it’s getting late). So if that’s correct then yeah… once again good ol’ Britain (and the Dutch) seem to the original colonizers. 😁

Talk to Frank.

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thankfully our current government wouldn’t dream of enjoying freebies and handouts eh?

It's not that.

It's just that life is too short to be worrying about shit you can do nothing about.

When you've lived through the cold war, when you watched terrifying educational videos about what to do on event of nuclear war when you were in primary school, when you've lived through news story after news story about wars in other countries, some of which people you know have served in, when you've been aware of many a dodgy political alliance, of famine and drought and forest fires and climate change, when you've experienced winds of over 100mph and power cuts that have lasted days on end, when you've survived extreme poverty (not eating anything for days) - well, I guess pragmatism wins over. You do the things you can do, and don't worry about the stuff you can do nothing about. Eventually we'll all be dead, so might do the best we can to enjoy the time we have.

I am funny. And you are a racist.
Look forward to your next essay which I won't read....
Too much time on your hands.

No im not. Op switch off mainstream and social media and live your life.

Of all the things to be terrified about I'm less concerned about that than I am about a lot of other things America is doing.

And yet you responded. I always find it so strange when someone actively joins and engages with an online discussion forum and then tries to “win” an argument by claiming to not be interested in the responses they receive. Not able to formulate anything more intelligent? Please try for a more original comeback next time.